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    Hi
    I need to buy a New CPU. Budget is 80K. Don't like to overclock but pre-overclocked is okay. Here is my probable list. I don't know latest price. Please suggest me with best combination and price list.

    CPU- Intel i5-4570/4690/4590 ( Suggest me if anything better and price)
    Mainboard- Gigabyte- Z-97x-SLI/ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER or anything you like ( I don't have enough knowledge)
    Ram- 2400BUS 8GB (suggest me brand and price)
    GPU- r9-270x/GT 760 ( suggest me in details as i got 18000-22000 price range for r9-270x and 22800-26000 price range for GT 760, I am really confused and don't know the difference)
    PSU- no idea
    Casing- No idea
    Hard Drive- 500GB ( already have a 40GB and a 1TB damaged HD and a 1 TB external), an SSD can be suggested also
    UPS- No idea

    Please help me to choose between VAPOR and Dual-x as i don't know the difference.
    Any sort of suggestion and combination out of my list but fits that budget is highly encouraged.

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    off topic: girl gamer in bd? good good :V which games do u play?
    also do u play games or u just watch movies and listen to music most of the time? no offence but if you dont play games much gotta buy better display and sound card/speaker rather buying gpu for nothing


    on topic: waaaattt... z97 with a cheap gpu? u got to be kidding me. u dont need z mobo when u dont oc

    760(23k) is better than 270x(21k) but 280 is 23k and better than 760

    500gb is nothing compared to new generation games. (i am gonna buy a 2tb tomorrow lol). get 1tb at least

    ups: no idea... but i5 280 er sathe 800va ups o 5 minute in game backup dibe bole mone hoy na... aro better ups lagbe

    ram: i am no ram expert but i dont think u need 2400bus ram in this generation mobo. if you want faster bus ram u should wait 6 to 8months for new generation cpu to come. they are not actually available in bd... you need to buy them from amazon.com for 90$



    i5 4th gen + 81 chipset... or 85 chipset (i guess msi is best)
    ~22k

    gpu: asus 280 ~23k (make sure its a 2 years replacement warranty before buying)

    ram: 8gb 1600mhz corsair vengence ~6.5k

    monitor: asus vx229 1080p ~15.5k

    psu: tt smart 550w ~6k

    hdd 1tb 5k
    casing: some good cheap casing was available in bd with 2k but i am not sure whether superior elec still importing cheap casings... tt commander gs3 is 3.9k
    speaker: ~3k or more ... (could not suggest one) at least 2k for microlab speakers
    others: 1k

    ~90k

    ups: could not suggest one
    optional: in case u music fan
    sound card: could not suggest one

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    off topic : btw... in your account ur name is shuvro majumdar so why ur bg user anika? sound fishy xD

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    http://globalbrand.com.bd/computer-accessories/desktop-accessories/casing/Golden-Field-6808-Casing

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    search if delux mz407 available in bd within 3.2k... casing da chrm....

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    Off topic- My friend opened it with her name but using my email and i posted the article by copy pasting from word so didn't see that. Sorry to disappoint you .

    I haven't found any source for 280 at 23K. Lowest price i got was around 26K

    I don't need monitor. I don't need any big hard drive as i already mentioned. No speaker also.

    For mainboard I don't have any choice but z97 series is the best now whatever no problem.

    For ram issue i got a quotation from Binary Logic- Gskill 8 GB 2400 BUS at 8500/-

    Can you suggest me what to buy? i am confused with VAPOR-X and Dual-X

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    global e to 23k :O

    whats ur monitor resltn?

    one of ur hdd is almost dead another is external so u can use it for other purposes... and the last one does not exist(40gb in 2014? seriously? dont tell me you have a 16 mega bite sd card ) so you may need to buy a good internal 1tb hdd. ssd 10k te 128gb pawa jay... could not suggest though

    mobo er upor gaming performance depend kore na but oc/ram oc/usb3/sata2 eshob facility depend kore

    ya i see it in their site

    sapphire er dualx hosse 2 fan wala normal gpu with no oc.... toxic hosse little factory oc... ar vapor x hosse shobcheye beshi factory oc with usually better cooler than dualx or toxic.


    offtopic: just changed ur name huh who was she? ur gf?

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    No matter what motherboard you get the performance will be same.
    Ram bus speed has minimal performance increase. max ~5% increase.

    vapor-x comes with better heat sink or components too, pre overclocked usually and more overclockable and consume a bit more power than dual -X.

    I think you can get the 280x at 26,000 from ucc. The best at that price, its performance is similar to a GTX770.
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    My monitor resolution is not that good only 1280*1024, Will upgrade later for 1920*1080.

    I use 40GB just for windows. I usually back up everything at External and Use damaged HDD for gaming. Whatever i have to buy another anyway.

    I need a good Mobo for 2400 BUS support. I do a lot of graphics work and animation with After effects so i need something powerful.

    Tell me the best processor, I think 4690 will be the best but not sure about the availability.

    Off topic: She was just friend.

    Guyz give me a better plan at 80K. I don't want to spend more than 23K for graphics card.

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    global e 280 (7950) 23k. and its best in 23k range... though i must say 280x 27k or 26k is much more powerful than 280
    http://globalbrand.com.bd/computer-a...9280-DC2T-3GD5

    Quote Originally Posted by shuvroju View Post

    I do a lot of graphics work and animation with After effects so i need something powerful.
    then u should really buy that asus monitor man... colors

    and more importantly shouldnt u consider nvidia over amd? i am not an expert at these but nvidia really ruled the graphics developing market long ago... now amd is not bad either but people usually precede nv over amd gpu when comes to developing. 760 2gb 23k er moto... jodio 280 3gb theke weaker

    u need good mobo to run 2400bus... but can i suggest another idea? because new generation cpu coming soon with ddr4 support... they are supposed to come in december though no official declaration yet. and dekstop pc ddr4 rams will start from 2400 bus i think


    yes thats why u should buy 1tb... dont want to lose ur work do u?

    best oc cpu hishebe 4670k ta ase... but otar price i7 er kasakasi ota kinle i7 kina uchit i guess

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    What is going to be the main purpose for your system? Is it going to be used for professional video rendering? Or is it just a hobby? Or are you going to learn about video editing and rendering on this system and then go on doing it professionally?

    I know I am asking a lot of question but that is because 80K for a video rendering system sound extremely low. It takes hours, if not days to render a stupid video. And if you are 3D rendering then God help! Which is why people spend a couple of hundred thousands in a system.

    If you are only going to for video editing and rendering, no serious 3D animations then you can focus only on a powerful CPU. But if you are going to do 3D animations you need a powerful GPU too. In that case all of your 80K will be spent on a single GPU.

    I cannot suggest you anything less than Core i7 4790 which costs 26K at Ryan (http://www.ryanscomputers.com/). A z97 motherboard for around 16K-ish minimum. Asus rampage is 19K-ish. I am not sure if you will find any RAM already overclocked at 2400Mhz in bd right now. Even if you do 2x8GB would cost you over 20K. So you will be spending over 60K just for CPU, mobo and ram.

    What PSU you will buy depend totally on the GPU you buy or will be buying in the future. A safe assumption for a video editing system would be a 700w-ish PSU which will enable you to run R9 290X or GTX780ti or two GTX760 SLI without breaking a sweat and the PSU will cost your around 9K (http://ucc-bd.com/products-1/all-pro...pply-unit.html). If you end up running 780tis into SLI then you might need around 1000w PSU.

    You will also need a well ventilated Casing (thermal take or Cooler master) which usually starts at 5K and goes up.

    You really need to ask yourself the question what is the purpose of your system is going to be? What exactly are you trying to achieve with this new system? And is it worth it? Because a video editing PC differs so much from a gaming PC. And it really costs a lot of money.

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    Well let me clarify everyone. It's a mid range gaming PC. Other things such as graphics work and after effects load is second priority but good support is encouraged.

    I don't want Core i7 and R9 280x due to budget issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuvroju View Post
    Well let me clarify everyone. It's a mid range gaming PC. Other things such as graphics work and after effects load is second priority but good support is encouraged.

    I don't want Core i7 and R9 280x due to budget issues.

    Here are my suggestions then
    Option 1 Budget Gaming PC

    CPU: Intel i3 4130 @ TK 8800 (Ryans)
    Mobo: H81 (Gigabyte/Asus/MSI) @ TK 5500 (Ryans)
    RAM" 2x4GB 1600Mhz @ TK 3500 each or TK7000 Pair (Ryans)
    GPU: Sapphire R9 270X Dual-x @ TK 19500 (UCC)
    PSU: Corsair 450VS @ TK 3400 (Ryans)
    Casing: Thermaltake Versa II @ TK 3800 (UCC)
    HDD: WD Blue 1TB @ TK 4800 (Ryans)
    UPS: Apollo 800VA @ TK 3200 (Ryans)

    TOTAL: TK 38450

    Option 2 Mid Range Gaming PC

    CPU: Intel i5 4570 @ TK 16000 (Ryans)
    Mobo: Asus B85M-F @ TK 7200 (Ryans)
    RAM" 2x8GB 1600Mhz @ TK 6700 each or TK 13400 Pair (Ryans)
    GPU: Sapphire R9 280X Vaporl-x (Tri fan design) @ TK 31500 (UCC)
    PSU: Thermaltake Smart SE 630W @ TK 6800 (UCC)
    Casing: Thermaltake Spacecraft VF-I @ TK 5500 (UCC)
    HDD: WD Blue 1TB @ TK 4800 (Ryans)
    UPS: PC Power 1200VA @ TK 4500 (Ryans)

    TOTAL: TK 75300

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    It's 83000 with single ram not 75300. whatever liked 2nd plan.

    I don't want a low pc so option 1 was unnecessary.

    Thank you anyway

    Need more options.

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    In terms of CPU performance in Cinebench, the boost from faster memory is almost negligible; moving from DDR3-1333 to DDR3-2133 gives the best boost of about 1.5%.
    there is little benefit to get a 2600 ram.

    Processor : Intel i5 4570 ~16000tk
    Mobo :
    MSI B85-G41 ~ 7500tk (supports crossfire) and got a heat sink over CPU VRM
    So it seems to be a bit better than the ASUS one mithun12ka4 mentioned. U can compare the motherboard and look for better quality components between the 2 boards while buying.
    RAM" 2x4GB 1600Mhz @ TK 3500 each or TK7000 Pair
    GPU: sapphire 280X dual-X ~ 26500tk
    PSU : Coolermaster V 550 (Gold rated PSU) 8000tk from binary logic .
    You can get it with 7000tk i guess. price over webpage are exaggerated.
    or Coolermaster GXII 550 ~ 5500tk
    or you can go with the TT smart SE ~7000tk
    HDD : WD Blue 1TB ~5000tk
    Case : 5000tk

    Total : 74000tk



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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun12ka4 View Post
    Here are my suggestions then
    Option 1 Budget Gaming PC

    CPU: Intel i3 4130 @ TK 8800 (Ryans)
    Mobo: H81 (Gigabyte/Asus/MSI) @ TK 5500 (Ryans)
    RAM" 2x4GB 1600Mhz @ TK 3500 each or TK7000 Pair (Ryans)
    GPU: Sapphire R9 270X Dual-x @ TK 19500 (UCC)
    PSU: Corsair 450VS @ TK 3400 (Ryans)
    Casing: Thermaltake Versa II @ TK 3800 (UCC)
    HDD: WD Blue 1TB @ TK 4800 (Ryans)
    UPS: Apollo 800VA @ TK 3200 (Ryans)

    TOTAL: TK 38450

    i blv u meant 58k not 38k lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    there is little benefit to get a 2600 ram.

    Processor : Intel i5 4570 ~16000tk
    Mobo :
    MSI B85-G41 ~ 7500tk (supports crossfire) and got a heat sink over CPU VRM
    So it seems to be a bit better than the ASUS one mithun12ka4 mentioned. U can compare the motherboard and look for better quality components between the 2 boards while buying.
    RAM" 2x4GB 1600Mhz @ TK 3500 each or TK7000 Pair
    GPU: sapphire 280X dual-X ~ 26500tk
    PSU : Coolermaster V 550 (Gold rated PSU) 8000tk from binary logic .
    You can get it with 7000tk i guess. price over webpage are exaggerated.
    or Coolermaster GXII 550 ~ 5500tk
    or you can go with the TT smart SE ~7000tk
    HDD : WD Blue 1TB ~5000tk
    Case : 5000tk

    Total : 74000tk


    Any B85 mobo is ok as long as they have 4 ram slots. I gave the asus one as an example. I find the Xfire option on B85 mobo pretty useless because the seconday PCIE is 2.0 @ 4X only, which might cause bottlenecks with high end GPUs.

    I wouldn't prefer Dual-x versions for high end GPUs such as 280X. Dual x isnt that good when it comes to cooling a power hungry GPU like 280X. Fans and heat pipe are of low quaility. Dual X is fine for a mid or low range GPU but definitely not for a high end. I have a 7790 Dual-x, so I know. MSI's twin frozr is much better than Dual X when it comes to Dual fan design. Gigabyte's windforce 3X also good and cheap `~28K but in BD you may not find it with 3ys manufacturers warranty.

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    i blv u meant 58k not 38k lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun12ka4 View Post
    Any B85 mobo is ok as long as they have 4 ram slots. I gave the asus one as an example. I find the Xfire option on B85 mobo pretty useless because the seconday PCIE is 2.0 @ 4X only, which might cause bottlenecks with high end GPUs.

    I wouldn't prefer Dual-x versions for high end GPUs such as 280X. Dual x isnt that good when it comes to cooling a power hungry GPU like 280X. Fans and heat pipe are of low quaility. Dual X is fine for a mid or low range GPU but definitely not for a high end. I have a 7790 Dual-x, so I know. MSI's twin frozr is much better than Dual X when it comes to Dual fan design. Gigabyte's windforce 3X also good and cheap `~28K but in BD you may not find it with 3ys manufacturers warranty.
    The x4 pci-E will have an average performance impact of ~10% on 280x, but its still useful than not having the crossfire feature at all. the board seems to have an extra power phase too.

    The dual x might not have a good heat sink compared to other brands but at 26k its a pretty good deal, granted if he finds other brands at the same price he should go for those.

    The vapor-x is around 5k more than the Dual-x, and its not worth the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun12ka4 View Post
    Xfire option on B85 mobo pretty useless because the seconday PCIE is 2.0 @ 4X only, which might cause bottlenecks with high end GPUs.



    I wouldn't prefer Dual-x versions for high end GPUs such as 280X. Dual x isnt that good when it comes to cooling a power hungry GPU like 280X. Fans and heat pipe are of low quaility. Dual X is fine for a mid or low range GPU but definitely not for a high end. I have a 7790 Dual-x, so I know. MSI's twin frozr is much better than Dual X when it comes to Dual fan design. Gigabyte's windforce 3X also good and cheap `~28K but in BD you may not find it with 3ys manufacturers warranty.
    good point noted



    dualx er cooling vaporx er moto chrm na holeo kharap na... according to utube reviews 280x dualx load e max 70-75 uthe... which i blv perfectly okay for a gpu

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    The x4 pci-E will have an average performance impact of ~10% on 280x, but its still useful than not having the crossfire feature at all. the board seems to have an extra power phase too.

    The dual x might not have a good heat sink compared to other brands but at 26k its a pretty good deal, granted if he finds other brands at the same price he should go for those.

    The vapor-x is around 5k more than the Dual-x, and its not worth the price.
    Actually Vapor-x is about 4K more expensive. And I think its absolutely worth it. First of all dual X base clock speed is only 900mhz where as Vapor x (tri fan design) is at 1000Mhz. Thats 10% more. No only that with Vapor-x you are getting better quality components, three fans instead of two and also a back cover. More over vapor-x looks so much better aesthetically (though it may not matter at all). The 15%-17% price premium is worth it.

    The Toxic version is not available in BD otherwise I would have suggested that.

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    good point noted



    dualx er cooling vaporx er moto chrm na holeo kharap na... according to utube reviews 280x dualx load e max 70-75 uthe... which i blv perfectly okay for a gpu
    Do not forget that BD has a much warmer climate than western nations.... plus most of the benchmarks are carried on in an open test bench. And to add insult to injury we (gamers in bd) are bad at setting up well ventilated casings.

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    three fans instead of two and also a back cover. More over vapor-x looks so much better aesthetically (though it may not matter at all). The 15%-17% price premium is worth it.
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    what... vaporx 280x e 2ta fan :\
    and vaporx does not lool better in the hand... its plastic feelts very very cheap sadly... though it doesnt matter... its not a cellphone... its a gpu

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    but vaporx er cooling chorom... fan curve ektu change kore dile 70 uthe na hot summer e. but onek 'noise' kore fan gula... had to compensate noise for cooling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    what... vaporx 280x e 2ta fan :\
    and vaporx does not lool better in the hand... its plastic feelts very very cheap sadly... though it doesnt matter... its not a cellphone... its a gpu

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    but vaporx er cooling chorom... fan curve ektu change kore dile 70 uthe na hot summer e. but onek 'noise' kore fan gula... had to compensate noise for cooling
    The 280X vapor-x in BD which UCC is importing has tri-x design
    http://ucc-bd.com/sapphire-vapor-x-r...-tri-x-oc.html
    http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

    Well tri fan designs do make some noise... but I dont think noise is ever an issue here in Dhaka City. The background noise is usually more than what these a GPU card can produce. Even if you have the luxury to leave in a peaceful neighborhood, our ACs and fans make quite noise also.

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