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    Default core i5-4690k or GTX 770 for 1080p gaming

    the title is a little bit weird (I laughed after seeing the tittle :v )
    but the main question is which one is worth upgrading for gaming 1080p ultra setting in a good fps?
    the cpu: core i5-4690k (with a z97 board) or the gpu: GTX 770 (most probably MSI GTX 770 OC Gaming)
    I currently have core i5-2400 cpu and MSI GTX 760 OC Gaming.
    so which upgrade would be benificial for me??

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    forget about the processor upgrade....
    buy 290

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    4690k

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    with that and a 760 you should be ok

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    but 290 is more expensive than 770...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    forget about the processor upgrade....
    buy 290
    but 290 is more expensive than 770...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    forget about the processor upgrade....
    buy 290
    ^^this

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    Don't need to upgrade your current processor, i5 2400 is strong enough for today's gaming. u should invest more on GPU like 290 or 290X instead of buying new gen processor and mobo

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    That processor is okay IMO, get a better GPU, although upgrading from a GTX 760 to a GTX 770 won't yield much of a performance difference considering the costs involved, and you also have to take into consideration that for the Core i5 4690K you will need to upgrade your motherboard, and to utilize it's overclocking abilities, it will have to be a pretty good board, and an aftermarket cooler.
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    I honestly wouldn't upgrade right now, nvidia is about to release their new cards and I strongly suggest you wait till prices adjust.

    But regardless of that, I suggest the GPU upgrade over the processor's.

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    ya wait for new nv and amd... after november december you will see 290's price getting lower drastically. you should wait. if you cant wait then gotta buy 290

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wretch Badhon View Post
    the title is a little bit weird (I laughed after seeing the tittle :v )
    Quote Originally Posted by Wretch Badhon View Post
    but the main question is which one is worth upgrading for gaming 1080p ultra setting in a good fps?
    the cpu: core i5-4690k (with a z97 board) or the gpu: GTX 770 (most probably MSI GTX 770 OC Gaming)
    I currently have core i5-2400 cpu and MSI GTX 760 OC Gaming.
    so which upgrade would be benificial for me??
    your processor is fine for now if paired with good supporting components.

    regarding the GPU, if you want something that you don't need then it's not worth it, otherwise please go ahead and buy an 290 or gtx 780. single monitor HD 1080p te ultra mode e shob game khelar jonno you don't 'need' a r9 290 or gtx 780, u would 'want' it though for a 15-20% higher fps than an gtx 770 or 280x. but it's comes with a tag of 40% increase in price! (MSI brand er gtx 770 and r9 290 compare korle)

    for a single monitor 1080p gaming in ultra mode (not considering watchdogs here, they are better off with console lovers!) you would 'need' a gtx 770 or 280x for a good number of days ahead, case closed. 290 is way overkill for 1080p.

    Now, let's look for a gtx 770 or 280x if thats what you really want. (otherwise dont bother, save up more and get all of the latest components, and yes, i mean everything, next year)

    here are my input considering;
    You badly need a feel good GPU
    You dont overclock
    You dont SLI or Crossfire
    You have limited budget

    hope you find the best one, remember the features written in product info can only be acquired if the component support is good enough.

    GTX 770 Pros:
    far better than the gtx780 or r9 290 in terms of performance per taka ratio
    all recent games in ultra mode 1080p with solid 50-60+ fps
    40% lesser price than a 290 or even lesser price than a gtx 780
    good driver support (far better than it's AMD 280x counterpart)
    Cons:
    bit pricey than r9 280x
    15-20% lesser fps than an r9 290 or gtx 780

    R9 280x Pros
    slightly better price/performance ratio than a gtx 770 (in BD pricing)
    better VRAM capacity (3gb) than 770 (2gb)
    better memory interface 384-bit than 770 (256 bit)
    Cons:
    lots of reported driver and artifacts issues (search "r9 280x issues" and voila!)
    takes more energy and heat than 770
    lower effective memory clock (6000MHz) than 770 (7010MHz)
    lower GPU clock (core & boost) than 770

    lastly, this is a note to you as a veteran gamer, in terms of GPU, you CAN NOT wait up to future proof your PC for the future, whatever should you save up for future to buy the best of 'now', gonna be much lesser value at that particular time in 'future'. Period.
    Last edited by Billybuoy; August 20th, 2014 at 03:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post


    GTX 770 Pros:
    all recent games in ultra mode 1080p with solid 50-60+ fps
    That's not true unless you turn off many advanced features. There are many games that GTX770 won't give 60FPS in if MSAA is turned on along with other Ultra settings.

    This is if you want minimum 60FPS though. If you're fine with lower then a 770 will do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    That's not true unless you turn off many advanced features. There are many games that GTX770 won't give 60FPS in if MSAA is turned on along with other Ultra settings.

    This is if you want minimum 60FPS though. If you're fine with lower then a 770 will do just fine.
    vaia I currently am keeping my sli off as watchdogs performs terribly and wolfestein does not utilize sli. The other games that are installed in my system rut now are mass effect 2 and FIFA 14, and single gtx 770 is more than good enough for them. I can get
    Solid 50-60 fps in wolfestein with everything maxed including msaa. Only game that I cannot enable msaa is poorly optimized watchdogs but everything apart from aa is maxed out and the fps hardly dip below 30 with worse mod 1.0. So I would like to put my 2 cents that gtx 770 4gb is good enough to get solid 50-60+fps with ultra setting with msaa. Also ultra settings is all that matters, the visual fidelity provided by msaa is negligible to my naked eyes.
    Just my 2 cents in Vaia. No offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post

    your processor is fine for now if paired with good supporting components.

    regarding the GPU, if you want something that you don't need then it's not worth it, otherwise please go ahead and buy an 290 or gtx 780. single monitor HD 1080p te ultra mode e shob game khelar jonno you don't 'need' a r9 290 or gtx 780, u would 'want' it though for a 15-20% higher fps than an gtx 770 or 280x. but it's comes with a tag of 40% increase in price! (MSI brand er gtx 770 and r9 290 compare korle)

    for a single monitor 1080p gaming in ultra mode (not considering watchdogs here, they are better off with console lovers!) you would 'need' a gtx 770 or 280x for a good number of days ahead, case closed. 290 is way overkill for 1080p.

    Now, let's look for a gtx 770 or 280x if thats what you really want. (otherwise dont bother, save up more and get all of the latest components, and yes, i mean everything, next year)

    here are my input considering;
    You badly need a feel good GPU
    You dont overclock
    You dont SLI or Crossfire
    You have limited budget

    hope you find the best one, remember the features written in product info can only be acquired if the component support is good enough.

    GTX 770 Pros:
    far better than the gtx780 or r9 290 in terms of performance per taka ratio
    all recent games in ultra mode 1080p with solid 50-60+ fps
    40% lesser price than a 290 or even lesser price than a gtx 780
    good driver support (far better than it's AMD 280x counterpart)
    Cons:
    bit pricey than r9 280x
    15-20% lesser fps than an r9 290 or gtx 780

    R9 280x Pros
    slightly better price/performance ratio than a gtx 770 (in BD pricing)
    better VRAM capacity (3gb) than 770 (2gb)
    better memory interface 384-bit than 770 (256 bit)
    Cons:
    lots of reported driver and artifacts issues (search "r9 280x issues" and voila!)
    takes more energy and heat than 770
    lower effective memory clock (6000MHz) than 770 (7010MHz)
    lower GPU clock (core & boost) than 770

    lastly, this is a note to you as a veteran gamer, in terms of GPU, you CAN NOT wait up to future proof your PC for the future, whatever should you save up for future to buy the best of 'now', gonna be much lesser value at that particular time in 'future'. Period.
    Excellent point Vaia. Specially about future proofing. Also I believe dx 12 games won't come until 2016(I mean with advanced features that will require new GPu)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafi View Post
    vaia I currently am keeping my sli off as watchdogs performs terribly and wolfestein does not utilize sli. The other games that are installed in my system rut now are mass effect 2 and FIFA 14, and single gtx 770 is more than good enough for them. I can get
    Solid 50-60 fps in wolfestein with everything maxed including msaa. Only game that I cannot enable msaa is poorly optimized watchdogs but everything apart from aa is maxed out and the fps hardly dip below 30 with worse mod 1.0. So I would like to put my 2 cents that gtx 770 4gb is good enough to get solid 50-60+fps with ultra setting with msaa. Also ultra settings is all that matters, the visual fidelity provided by msaa is negligible to my naked eyes.
    Just my 2 cents in Vaia. No offense
    Those two games don't even have that great graphics, so obviously they'll run with no problems.

    I am sure that more intensive games such as Crysis 3 will not run at 60FPS maxed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    Those two games don't even have that great graphics, so obviously they'll run with no problems.

    I am sure that more intensive games such as Crysis 3 will not run at 60FPS maxed out.
    hope it helps,

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    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1037

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    Those two games don't even have that great graphics, so obviously they'll run with no problems.

    I am sure that more intensive games such as Crysis 3 will not run at 60FPS maxed out.
    I used to know watchdogs is more demanding than that of Crysis 3 due to poor optimization and many other facts. Btw if u want, i can bench crysis 3 on single gtx 770 as i have the game installed on my external storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafi View Post
    I used to know watchdogs is more demanding than that of Crysis 3 due to poor optimization and many other facts. Btw if u want, i can bench crysis 3 on single gtx 770 as i have the game installed on my external storage
    i see, many gamers from different parts have expressed their anger towards watchdogs developers for not 'pro actively' making PC gamers happy in general. some say, the developers intentionally trying to uphold the 'premium graphics cards' as part of the business strategy. to my thinking. the gameplay i have seen and the storyline itself are not that demanding for me at this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post
    hope it helps,

    GTX770 (nVidia) Crysis 3 - 1920x1080 - High Quality + FXAA - FPS 71.2

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1037
    That is not even Very High and doesn't even have MSAA.



    And that too with FXAA.

    @shafi , no I don't need any benches.

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    Get the R9 290 even if its more expensive.. Its has TrueAudio and an updated display controller that will support FreeSync.
    And seeing how game engines are adopting Mantle. Its another reason to get.

    The 280X doesnt have true Audio and wont support FreeSync.

    AMD's drivers have improved a lot lately, I didnt face any problems with drivers so far in the last few years.

    And the 280X is better than the GTX770. In terms of hardware and pricewise. Only downside is that it consumes a bit more power.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1041?vs=1037

    And about the artifact issue

    Any card will get that artifacting issue if they run at an unstable speed. Graphics card manufacturers like to make their cards run faster than the reference (AMD set) speed so that the product looks superior. And while it is their responsibility to ensure the cards can run stable at their set speed, it seems certain manufacturers of late have been shoddy in the QC process.

    And it seems the R9 280X has the highest failure rate because the R9 280X GPU is actually the same as the older HD 7970. Except that now the chips at 'reference' are essentially overclocked 7970s, so when manufacturers overclock beyond reference they are pushed to extremes and easily become unstable which is what you are seeing now.

    Nonetheless the R9 280X is still a good card and it is up to luck if you receive an unstable one. No matter what card you buy be it from AMD or Nvidia you will stand a chance to draw the short stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    That is not even Very High and doesn't even have MSAA.



    And that too with FXAA.

    @shafi , no I don't need any benches.
    Where is the trust? Who do we listen to?

    FPS and other Comparisons between r9 280x and gtx 770:
    Battlefield 4: r9 280x (Very High at 1,920 x 1,080)
    Bioshock Infinite: GTX 770 (Ultra at 1,920 x 1,080)
    Crysis 3: GTX 770
    (Very High at 1,920 x 1,080 with 8xAA)
    Power, Heat and Noise: GTX 770
    Overall Winner: GTX 770


    http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...ich-is-fastest
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