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    Default Post your Voltage Drop here!

    Q. What is Voltage Drop? (Vdrop for short)
    A. Voltage drop describes how the supplied energy of a voltage source is reduced as electric current moves through the passive elements (elements that do not supply voltage) of an electrical circuit. Voltage drops across internal resistances of the source, across conductors, across contacts, and across connectors are undesired; supplied energy is lost (dissipated). Voltage drops across loads and across other active circuit elements are desired; supplied energy performs useful work.
    For example, an electric space heater may have a resistance of ten ohms, and the wires which supply it may have a resistance of 0.2 ohms, about 2% of the total circuit resistance. This means that approximately 2% of the supplied voltage is lost in the wire itself. Excessive voltage drop may result in unsatisfactory operation of, and damage to, electrical and electronic equipment.
    National and local electrical codes may set guidelines for the maximum voltage drop allowed in electrical wiring, to ensure efficiency of distribution and proper operation of electrical equipment. The maximum permitted voltage drop varies from one country to another.[1] In electronic design and power transmission, various techniques are employed to compensate for the effect of voltage drop on long circuits or where voltage levels must be accurately maintained. The simplest way to reduce voltage drop is to increase the diameter of the conductor between the source and the load, which lowers the overall resistance. In power distribution systems, a given amount of power can be transmitted with less voltage drop if a higher voltage is used. More sophisticated techniques use active elements to compensate for the undesired voltage drop.

    Q. Why would I want to check my voltage drop?
    A. Well, the purpose of this is to check how much voltage your psu is dropping when the components are being fully pushed to their maximum capabilities, as in putting maximum load, therefore pushing the power supply to it's limits, depending on he PSU and the components you have. The data you people are going to provide (along with mine) can serve the purpose of a benchmark for various power supplies, even though the data we will gather may not be that accurate.

    Q. So what do I have to do?
    A. Well, firstly you are going to need a software that pulls data like voltages and temperatures directly from the bios. (This description of mine may not be accurate so feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

    What you are going to need is the software utility that comes bundled with your motherboard that usually lets you overclock or monitor and control stuff like fan RPM, voltages, clocks, and etc. from within windows. The reason why I am opting for the bundled software is that, while the software reading may not be the most accurate, usually these software provide the data pulled directly from the motherboard's sensors.

    Here are links to a couple of software that are bundled with the well known motherboard manufacturers that will allow users to monitor what we need.



    • Global (Should work with most motherboards): HWiNFO
    • Gigabyte motherboards: Easy Tune
    • Asus motherboards: PC Probe
    • ASRock motherboards: ASRock Extreme Tuner
    • MSI motherboards: Control Center


    *Note: Check your manufacturer's website for details on software compatibility, since there are different versions of these software that are built specifically for specific hardware, e.g. the intel version of Easy Tune will not work on AMD hardware, and vice versa. I recommend that you download the latest version to avoid instabilities like BSOD and make sure the software is run with administrator rights. As I couldn't find proper links for a download to some of the software, I have left it to the hands of the participants (that means YOU) to download the proper software corresponding to your motherboard.

    Procedures for the test: Start the corresponding software for your motherboard, and monitor the +12V ratings when the system is idle. Then run Furmark in windowed mode, and note the voltages, and if you want to get extreme, grab Prime95 or Intel Burn Test while Furmark's running, for a complete assessment. You can also use MSI Kombustor, OCCT, Linpack or whatever you may prefer. Even running a game that makes good use of the hardware in windowed mode will do nicely.

    Procedures for submission: Simple enough. A screenshot of the corresponding software for you motherboard while in idle state, and a screenshot of it in full load, and also mention the make and model of the PSU with a link to the manufacturer's website with the usage period should do nicely.

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    PSU Name: Cooler Master Thunder 700W, being used since February, 2014.

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    While Idle

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    Intel Burn Test (Only CPU is stressed, 86W average)

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    Prime95 (65W approximately) stress test along with HD 7850 running Furmark at 1100 Mhz Core, Powertune set to 0% since it isn't necessary for this card.

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    HD 7950 being stressed, with core set to 1100 Mhz and Powertune to 20% to counter the throttling made by AMD's Boost feature thus ensuring maximum power being drawn (CPU left idle)

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    Both cards being stressed at the same time (CPU left idle)

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    So there you have it, the PSU, when pushed to the max, crumbles and marginally falls below the safety range for +12 V which is +-5%.

    Start submitting your results.
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    @Fox Mulder Why not tell everybody to put their 10 mins OCCT 4.4.0 benchmark?
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    OCCT is a LOT lighter than what the two of us do, and you and I both know it :v

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    @Fox Mulder without the right equipment, you wont get any fruitful result. In this case a Digital multiplier would be the right eqp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Mulder View Post
    OCCT is a LOT lighter than what the two of us do, and you and I both know it :v
    Easy Tune er kothao Voltage show er kono option nai. Hudai 2 ta foul app install korlam. -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    @Fox Mulder without the right equipment, you wont get any fruitful result. In this case a Digital multiplier would be the right eqp.
    I have also stated this in the OP that the results won't be dead accurate, but this can and will serve as a guideline for what to be expected from certain power supplies. You seem to have a rig on steriods yourself, why don't you contribute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Easy Tune er kothao Voltage show er kono option nai. Hudai 2 ta foul app install korlam. -_-

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    Oops! Don't download Easy Tune from the link in the OP, what's the model of your motherboard? Didn't you have an ASRock Z77?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Mulder View Post
    Oops! Don't download Easy Tune from the link in the OP, what's the model of your motherboard? Didn't you have an ASRock Z77?
    Nope, didnt go for that. Spending 2-2.5k extra for 400Mhz seemed useless to me in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Nope, didnt go for that. Spending 2-2.5k extra for 400Mhz seemed useless to me in the end.
    Easy Tune 6 (intel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Mulder View Post
    kaj kore na re bhai. Tried it more than once. -_-

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    @Fox Mulder amar dual scrypt mining (CPU+GPU) er shomoy 11.66v porjonto naame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Mulder View Post
    I have also stated this in the OP that the results won't be dead accurate, but this can and will serve as a guideline for what to be expected from certain power supplies. You seem to have a rig on steriods yourself, why don't you contribute?
    I'm too lazy.

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    I'm looking for cheap digital multimeter. Once i have my hands on one of those, I'll post my readings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    I'm too lazy.

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    I'm looking for cheap digital multimeter. Once i have my hands on one of those, I'll post my readings.
    cheap? 230te ase ekta ( it wont last)
    500 e ase ekta ( probes wont last)

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    i did opened up a thread like this. didnt get much response

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    @Fox Mulder HWmonitor chalay rekhe dual mining shuru korlei to kahini bojha jay. Eto caricature er ki dorkar. -_-

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    one more thing ET6(for GB boards) is the worst utility app i have ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    cheap? 230te ase ekta ( it wont last)
    500 e ase ekta ( probes wont last)

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    i did opened up a thread like this. didnt get much response
    suggest me a model-price-place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    suggest me a model-price-place..
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    Patuatuli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    @Fox Mulder HWmonitor chalay rekhe dual mining shuru korlei to kahini bojha jay. Eto caricature er ki dorkar. -_-
    HWMonitor tries to "guesstimate" the readings depending on the model of sensors you have on your motherboard, which isn't accurate at all. Here's an example:

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    one more thing ET6(for GB boards) is the worst utility app i have ever seen.
    Whether it is the worst utility or not, it's the only one that guarantees readings from the bios.
    Last edited by Fox Mulder; May 28th, 2014 at 03:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Mulder View Post
    HWMonitor tries to "guesstimate" the readings depending on the model of sensors you have on your motherboard, which isn't accurate at all. Here's an example:

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    So where's the +12V reading?
    Lol. What is VIN4/5/6? Vin Diesel?!?

    Here's mine, smooth and perfect:

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    SpeedFan shows the voltage properly.

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