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    Default RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Hey guys,

    yesterday I got a 500gb Samsung F3, and now I'm considering a RAID setup. Dipanzan has already provided me with an overview, and he asked to get your opinions as well. He has warned me about the potential data loss, but I still want to look into this further.

    My previous HDD is 500GB as well but unfortunately its a Western Digital Caviar Green, a slow drive, but I did some googling and I guess I can still gain improvements. So, what are your thoughts? Considering a RAID 0 setup btw.
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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Actually NO.

    if you use it on RAID 2 no problem at all.

    i use 160GB SAMSUNg on RAID 2 and 640GB F1 on RAID 0.

    speeds are same.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    Actually NO.

    if you use it on RAID 2 no problem at all.

    i use 160GB SAMSUNg on RAID 2 and 640GB F1 on RAID 0.

    speeds are same.
    Please clarify, you're setup is a combo of RAID 0 + 2?

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    yah.

    on RAID0-640GB F1

    Raid 1-DVD

    RAId2- 160GB

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    yah.

    on RAID0-640GB F1

    Raid 1-DVD

    RAId2- 160GB
    Please don`t mind. I think u have no clear idea about RAID . I mean no idea.
    RAID and IDE/SATA channel r not same.

    Raid 0 will increase read,write speed.

    ""RAID 0 implements a striped disk array, the data is broken down into blocks and each block is written to a separate disk drive

    I/O performance is greatly improved by spreading the I/O load across many channels and drives

    Best performance is achieved when data is striped across multiple controllers with only one drive per controller""
    Last edited by Muradd9; December 9th, 2009 at 22:18.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Don't use 2 different drives in RAID 0. Cause the drives has to be performing equal to raid 0 to work. So it is usually recommended to use pair of same drives to raid 0. So get another f3 500gb to raid 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    Please don`t mind. I think u have no clear idea about RAID . I mean no idea.
    RAID and IDE/SATA channel r not same.

    please give some.

    dekhen apnara jodi na gyan den tahole amra ki korbo.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    aayman read ur motherboard menual for detail setup.
    If possible use raid 5. Or raid 0.

    Try this link
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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    yah.

    on RAID0-640GB F1

    Raid 1-DVD

    RAId2- 160GB
    You're confusing RAID with SATA.

    So guys what do you think? Do I go for it?

    @avas: Yes you're correct, its ideal if I have the same drive, but I don't think different ones will perform poorly either.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    yah.

    i made a big error.:S

    thanks muraad bhai for clearing that out.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    yah.

    on RAID0-640GB F1

    Raid 1-DVD

    RAId2- 160GB
    no offence
    now what in the world does DVD got to do with RAID or HDDs

    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    aayman read ur motherboard menual for detail setup.
    If possible use raid 5. Or raid 0.

    Try this link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
    Murrad bhaiya, or mobor RAID config ar amr ta same
    just BIOS>Controllers>SATA Confg>(IDE, ACHI, RAID)...just like mine

    just RAID ta select korle, BIOS theke duita HDD RAID(0,1,5,10) e configure korte dibe & then install Windows & then install teh RAID software, since all this is software RAID & not hardware RAID

    but Murrad bhaiya aayman bhaiya WD Green 500GB tar speed onek kom F3 ir shathe compare korle
    still will he get speed benefits, if he just uses RAID 0(stripping)...ar usable space to 1TB hobe right???
    (500+500)GB=1TB(F3+WD)
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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    guyz....can ne 1 plz tell me ...........if my mobo don have the raid support then is there ne way i can raid my HDD.......?? like buying a raid cad....??

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    There are two way you can RAID, a hardware based RAID or a software based RAID. RAID can be configured using a IDE/SATA/SCSI interface.

    Hardware based RAID: Best if you have a on-board (built in) RAID controller or a separate RAID card (usually very high price) so your RAID processing will be done by the controller itself. This method supports all OS (not the too old ones). Usually you can configure it from BIOS or RAID BIOS.

    Software Based RAID: Best () if you have no RAID hardware/controller. All you need to do is convert your HDD basic to dynamic in Disk management tool. In this method, a slight processing power (as well as system memory) will be used to process RAID data transfers. Its no big deal if you have a standard grade CPU.

    Now What is RAID and how it benefits you:
    Simple!! Imagine you have one HDD and 1MB data to read or write. lets think it takes 2 sec. Now you have two HDD on a RAID 0 setup. 512 KB of data will be written or read from Disk one and rest 512 KB data will be written or read from Disk two at the same time. So it will take only 1 sec. And thats the benefit. Just think about it, using 2 HDD on RAID 0 gives you double read write speed, using 3 gives you triple, using 4 ....

    There are many types of RAID. Read at wiki for details.

    It is highly recommended to use same types (same speed) of HDD for maximum performance. In your case, you will get even worse performance as your WD green will be bottle necking your F3. Get another F3 to see RAID magic
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    hmm...amar kase abar arekta F3 kenar taka nai. WD ta sell korle parbo. Anyone interested? I'll sell it at a slow price .

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    thanks to marex and now i understand.:blushing:

    too sorry for mistake guys.:S

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    thanks to marex and now i understand.:blushing:

    too sorry for mistake guys.:S
    ya glad it's sorted out for ya
    you are here for a long time & also have efficient knowledge when it comes to hardware, but from the next time you might wanna do some research than to boisterously post something that you cant have:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumon Datta View Post
    Actually NO.

    if you use it on RAID 2 no problem at all.

    i use 160GB SAMSUNg on RAID 2 and 640GB F1 on RAID 0.

    speeds are same.
    your motherboard uses the G31 which is coupled by the ICH7 southbridge if I m not mistaken, & for RAID you need a southbridge that has the ICH9R/ICH10R tag infront of it...that R tells you if your mobo is gonna do RAID or not

    now you know the difference & know what RAID actually means, take abit care when posting next time =)

    no offence too

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    see on the post number #10.

    i have apolozied there al ready.

    so my motherboard doesn't have R.

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    You can soft raid. But i dont recommend it. A chipset with raid controller is a lot faster and efficient. Some mainboards like gigabyte and asus has powerful 3rd party raid controllers builtin.

    But your board dont. So you are kind of out of luck like me

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by @mrX View Post
    There are two way you can RAID, a hardware based RAID or a software based RAID. RAID can be configured using a IDE/SATA/SCSI interface.

    Software Based RAID: Best () if you have no RAID hardware/controller. All you need to do is convert your HDD basic to dynamic in Disk management tool. In this method, a slight processing power (as well as system memory) will be used to process RAID data transfers. Its no big deal if you have a standard grade CPU.
    [B]
    since i don have ne RAID hardware/controller.........so i need to go for Software Based RAID........!! so can u plz explain dis to me in details.......?? it will be a great help bro........

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    Default Re: RAID- What? How? Should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    Hey guys,

    yesterday I got a 500gb Samsung F3, and now I'm considering a RAID setup. Dipanzan has already provided me with an overview, and he asked to get your opinions as well. He has warned me about the potential data loss, but I still want to look into this further.

    My previous HDD is 500GB as well but unfortunately its a Western Digital Caviar Green, a slow drive, but I did some googling and I guess I can still gain improvements. So, what are your thoughts? Considering a RAID 0 setup btw.
    i think you should get another 500gb Samsung F3 and throw them in raid 0, and keep the WD as normal hd or somewhat.

    though samsung and WD will work... but the performence would not be same as samsung raid.

    bcoz they are not at same speed.

    and, as you are Considering a RAID 0 setup you must have a ups or some kind of power backup.....bcoz if you get any power fluctuation, it will corrept both of ur raid drives....
    <a href=http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4825569231 target=_blank rel=nofollow><img src=http://www.speedtest.net/result/4825569231.png border=0 alt= /></a>

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