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    Default eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    some people think that sacrificing animals is so cruel,why dont they just stun it bla bla...read the stuff below and if u think this is just made up stuff then talk to any reputed medical doctor and get it to know from him.


    Is Islamic Slaughtering Cruel to Animals?

    By Aisha El-Awady

    Islam’s stance on what is permissible to eat and what is not is clear. There are strict rules when it comes to meat regarding what is allowed and what is forbidden. In Surat Al-Maida (The Table) Allah says: "Forbidden to you [for food] are: Al-Maytatah (the dead animals -cattle-beasts not slaughtered), blood, the flesh of swine, and the meat of that which has been slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allah, or has been slaughtered for idols, etc., or on which Allah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering, and that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by the goring of horns - and that which has been [partly] eaten by a wild animal - unless you are able to slaughter it [before its death] ¤ and that which is sacrificed (slaughtered) on An¤Nusub[ (stone altars). [Forbidden] also is to use arrows seeking luck or decision, [all] that is Fisqun (disobedience of Allah and sin). This day, those who disbelieved have given up all hope of your religion, so fear them not, but fear Me. This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin [such can eat these above-mentioned meats], then surely, Allah is Oft¤Forgiving, Most Merciful."

    The Islamic practice of slaughtering animals by means of a sharp cut to the front of the neck has frequently come under attack by some animal rights activists as being a form of animal cruelty, the claim being that it is a painful inhumane method of killing animals. In the West, it is required by law to stun the animals with a shot to the head before the slaughter, supposedly to render the animal unconscious and to prevent it from reviving before it is killed so as not to slow down the movement of the processing line. It is also used to prevent the animal from feeling pain before it dies.

    German Research Studies Pain

    It therefore may come as a surprise to those who have made such acclimations to learn of the results of a study carried out by Professor Wilhelm Schulze and his colleague Dr. Hazim at the School of Veterinary Medicine, Hannover University in Germany. The study: ‘Attempts to Objectify Pain and Consciousness in Conventional (captive bolt pistol stunning) and Ritual (halal, knife) Methods of Slaughtering Sheep and Calves’ concludes that Islamic slaughtering is the most humane method of slaughter and that captive bolt stunning, practiced in the West, causes severe pain to the animal.

    In the study, several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all animals, touching the surface of the brain. The animals were allowed to recover for several weeks. Some animals were then slaughtered by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck cutting the jugular veins and the carotid arteries as well as the trachea and esophagus (Islamic method). Other animals were stunned using a Captive Bolt Pistol (CBP). During the experiment, an electroencephalograph (EEG) and an electrocardiogram (ECG) recorded the condition of the brain and the heart of all animals during the course of slaughter and stunning.

    The results were as follows:

    I – Islamic Method

    1. The first three seconds from the time of Islamic slaughter as recorded on the EEG did not show any change from the graph before slaughter, thus indicating that the animal did not feel any pain during or immediately after the incision.

    2. For the following 3 seconds, the EEG recorded a condition of deep sleep - unconsciousness. This is due to the large quantity of blood gushing out from the body.

    3. After the above-mentioned 6 seconds, the EEG recorded zero level, showing no feeling of pain at all.

    4. As the brain message (EEG) dropped to zero level, the heart was still pounding and the body convulsing vigorously (a reflex action of the spinal cord) driving a maximum amount of blood from the body thus resulting in hygienic meat for the consumer.

    II - Western method by C.B.P. Stunning

    1. The animals were apparently unconscious soon after stunning.

    2. EEG showed severe pain immediately after stunning.

    3. The hearts of animals stunned by C.B.P. stopped beating earlier as compared to those of the animals slaughtered according to the Islamic method resulting in the retention of more blood in the meat. This in turn is unhygienic for the consumer.

    Western-Style Slaughtering and Mad Cow’s Disease

    Not only is this method of stunning animals before the slaughter severely painful as shown by the previous experiment, but there is also a rising concern that this method may be a factor in the spread of mad cow’s disease from cattle to humans as it was discovered in recent research carried out at Texas A&M University and by Canada’s Food Inspection Agency, that a method called pneumatic stunning (which is the firing of a metal bolt into the cow's brain followed by a pulverizing burst of 150 pounds of air pressure) delivered a force so explosive that it scattered brain tissue throughout the animal. This news is disturbing since the brain tissue and spinal cord are the most infectious parts of an animal with mad cow disease, which causes fatal Swiss cheese like holes in the brain of the infected animal. It is more disturbing to find out that around 30 to 40 percent of American cattle are stunned by pneumatic guns.

    Islamic Regulations for the Slaughter

    As one can see from the previous studies, Islamic slaughtering of animals is a blessing to both the animal and to humans alike. In order for the slaughtering to be lawful, several measures must be taken by the one performing the deed. This is to ensure the highest benefit to both the animal and the consumer.

    In this regard, the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) said: "God calls for mercy in everything, so be merciful when you kill and when you slaughter: sharpen your blade to relieve its pain".

    The object used to slaughter the animal should be sharp and used swiftly. The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerves in the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. The movements and withering that happen to the animal after the cut is made are not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood. The prophet (peace be upon him) also taught Muslims neither to sharpen the blade of the knife in front of the animal nor to slaughter an animal in front of others of its own kind.

    The cut should involve the windpipe (trachea), gullet (esophagus), and the two jugular veins without cutting the spinal cord. This method results in the rapid gush of blood draining most of it from the animal’s body. If the spinal cord is cut, the nerve fibers to the heart might be damaged leading to cardiac arrest thus resulting in stagnation of blood in the blood vessels. The blood must be drained completely before the head is removed. This purifies the meat by removing most of the blood that acts as a medium for microorganisms; meat also remains fresh longer as compared to other methods of slaughtering.

    Therefore accusations of animal cruelty should very rightly be focused on those who do not use the Islamic way of slaughtering but prefer to use those methods which cause pain and agony to the animal and could also very well cause harm to those consuming the meat.
    the source " http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1157365866876&pagename=Zone-English-HealthScience%2FHSELayout"

    now we should one or two points about what we should do on the day of eid...

    The Sunnah of ‘Eid

    1. Wake up early on the day of ‘Eid in order to prepare for the prayer and other activities of the day.
    2. Prepare by making ghusl, wearing nice clothing and wear perfume.
    3. Leave for the place where prayer is taking place early.
    4. On the way to the prayer, recite the takbir (Allaho-Akber, Allaho-Akber. La ila-ha ill-lal-lah. Allaho-Akber, Allaho-Akber. Wa-lilahill hamd. (Allah is greater, Allah is greater. There is no god but Allah. Allah is greater, Allah is greater. And all praises are for Allah).

    The takbir starts from Maghrib on the 9th Thul Hijjah and last until the Asr on the 12th Thul Hijjah.

    5. It is important that the ‘Eid be made in an open place other than the usual mosque if possible (in case of inclement weather like rain, snow; etc.).
    6. Make the ‘Eid prayer in congregation.
    7. Upon completing the prayer, take a different route than you took to arrive at the prayer grounds.

    The Slaughter:

    According to Imam Abu Hanifah, the slaughtering is a wajib. For Abu Hanifah, a wajib is more than a sunnah and less than a fard. The other Imams consider a wajib to mean fard (obligatory).

    Therefore, he sees that it is wajib for those people who are capable to do it according to the hadith, “Whoever has the ability to slaughter and he doesn’t, then let him not come near our prayer area.” So Abu Hanifa took from this hadith that it was a wajib. If we can’t consider it as a wajib, at least it is a sunnah muakkadah and in it is a great bounty.

    Its time of occurrence is after Salat al-‘Eid, meaning the earliest salat ul-Eid that has been performed in your area. After which, it is permissible to make the sacrifice. If it is done before that, it is not considered an ‘Eid sacrifice.

    For the Prophet (blessings of Allah and peace be upon him) commanded the one who performs the slaughtering before the ‘Eid prayer to consider his sheep as a “sheep of meat” and not as a “sheep of worship”. Even if he gave all of it in charity he will only be rewarded for it the reward of charity, not the reward for slaughtering for the ‘Eid. For slaughtering is a an act of worship and the acts of worship if they have a fixed time and condition then it is not befitting for it to be performed early or late, like the daily prayers. Is it permissible for you to pray Dhuhr before its appointed time? So it is with the slaughtering of the ‘Eid, it has its specified time too.

    Some people in certain places slaughter the night before the ‘Eid. This is incorrect and a misplacement of the Sunnah, as well as a loss of the reward that it contains. If this person realizes his mistake in time, especially if he made a vow to slaughter (then it is obligatory for him), he should repeat it in the correct time after the ‘Eid prayer. It is also permissible to slaughter on the second and third days of the ‘Eid.

    It is best to slaughter before the sun reaches its zenith. If the time for Dhuhr comes and he has not performed the slaughter it is better to wait till the second day to do it. Some of the Imams have said that it is permissible after that during the day or even the night. For this reason I see that it is not absolutely necessary that everybody slaughters on the first day because there will be a lot of crowding at the site of the slaughtering. So, it is possible that some people can delay their slaughtering until the second or third day.

    What is the Proper Animal for Slaughter?

    Camels, cows, sheep and goats are the proper animal to use for slaughtering because they are considered livestock (an’am). So it is permissible to slaughter from any of these types. The sheep can be used for ‘one’, meaning a man and the members of his household. As the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “This is on behalf of Muhammad and his family.”

    Abu Ayyub has said, “During the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) a man used to slaughter one sheep for himself and his family until it came to the point that people competed with each other and they became what you now see.” This is the Sunnah.

    As for cows and camels, 1/7 of either of them is sufficient for one person, so it is possible that 7 people could share one camel or one camel or one cow with the condition that the cow is not less than 2 years old or the camel less than 5 years old.

    The better the quality of the animal that is used for slaughtering, with regards to its size and condition, the better. That is because it is a gift to Allah, Mighty and Majestic. Therefore, it is befitting for the Muslim to present to Allah the best possible thing. As for one giving to Allah what he himself would dislike, then no, this is not appropriate. But in the end, “It is not their meat nor their blood that reaches Allah, rather, it is the piety of the hearts that reaches Him.”

    i hope u guys take out a bit of your 'precious' time and read the whole thing...
    Last edited by Mad Monk; November 24th, 2009 at 18:17.
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    source lekho nai to.

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    very nice piece of information
    thanx both of u
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    lynas bhai groan dilen ke?

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    ami kintu source lekhsilam,post ta je poren nai apnara eita bujhai jai,its very sad,ami mone korlam apnara porben,apnara upokrito hole i might be rewarded by allah,but u guys didnt think like that.aro 10 ta thread er moto post marlen,age poren jinish ta bhai,its important for us.
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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    ishh asoleo to.:S

    ami dekhi nai eita onek vitore kina.:S

    source gulo highlight korte hoi bujla?:S

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    amar kaj chhilo eikhane kisu bhalo ekta deoa,ar ami eikhane chharao aro ek jaigai post korsi,ar bhai ami thread khulsi kisu loker misconception thakte pare,ba emni just jananor jonno kisu bishoy,apnara post na porei dekhai dilen je koto paren apnara,hain ekdom net e theke ber kore,search tearch die osthir,jak anyways,ekjon o jodi pore upokrito thats good enough for my time spent..
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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    Good read. THanks for posting.

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    good,atleast ekjon to porse purata!!i hope others have read the thing as well...
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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_08 View Post
    good,atleast ekjon to porse purata!!i hope others have read the thing as well...
    এত বড় পড়ার ধৈর্য্য নাই :blush:

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    Abir purata Banglae translate kore POST koro...hehe...tomar to bangla likhte valo laage...
    ami olpo porsi...but valo likhse ....r QUOTE kore disi...so jhogra bibad nai...EID MANE KHUSHI !! lol

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    hahahaha,ektu try koren,but anyways lekha ase je islam never gives any false info on anything,may be we sometimes dont understand it,that is due to our limitations not islam's fault.and here i have given some sunnahs of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him, regarding eid ul adha...
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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    Thanks for posting. Mobile theke post kortesi eikhane thanks deya jay na, pore pc te gele dibo. I never have any doubt about the way of kurbani but its nice to know the reasons. Quran has stored knowledge beyond our imagination, the sooner we can understand the better.

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    ashole amra quran khule dekhi kobe?quran e je shob details deoa ase oigula manush chintao korte parenai kisudin age,jak we are getting modern than for the better,and especially keu jodi embryology shomporke dekhe quran e ki details e deoa ase ar ki discovered hoise recent years gula te tahole tar iman aro strong and he can firmly say he is on the right path.

    ---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:07 ----------

    btw sorry guys for off topic,but i think you guys should have a glance at this book,atleast a glance...
    www.islamic-council.com/okdown1/islam-guide.pdf
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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    It was my pleasure to read the post.. I would not care if it ware 10 pages.. Really important information. May Allah give us all the patience and hunger for knowledge to know ways of the universe.

    Its just [EB]. Not Elite B[a]stard or anything like that.

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    Default Re: eid ul ajha-somthings we should know...

    Thanks for posting this info.
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