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    Default Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    As a noob DOTA starter, I have picked Razor as he is easy to handle and stylish. Can you guys help me to find some answers?

    01. What is the best Item combination for Razor? Please be brief and explain why.
    02. What is the combo for Razor to kill a Hero? Give your own idea.
    03. How to gain levels more quickly with him? I know he is a good farmer but at AI maps even with easy opponents, I cant keep up with others heroes when playing Razor.
    04. What will be the best skill build sequence for him?
    05. I think the Static Link is totally useless, how can I make it useful?

    Besides Razor, whom you suggest most as a Easy yet powerful hero for starters like me?

    Thanks guys, I am really looking forward to your answer.
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    DotA is not an easy hero. Try to find out the strength and weakness of every hero that you play and analys yourself. Stop playing AI. Play in Garena.

    And come to Sniper on a practice day of nfs. We would be glad to help you out.
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Thanks Galib vaiya, nfs er next practice day kobe?

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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Err...I meant to say Razor is not an easy hero......Ask Jojo to find out the next practice day of nfs.
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    NFS to khali harar upor ase..

    BTW, NFS is really helpful. I wish we could have SP helping and giving tips to the starters.. Like NFS does.

    On topic,

    Static link is a very strong spell late game.. well my razor skill build goes like this[more details here]:

    Level 1 Plasma Field
    Level 2
    Static Link
    Level 3
    Plasma Field
    Level 4
    Unstable Current
    Level 5
    Plasma Field
    Level 6
    Eye of the Storm
    Level 7
    Plasma Field
    Level 8
    Unstable Current/Static Link
    Level 9
    Unstable Current
    Level 10
    Unstable Current
    Level 11
    Eye of the Storm
    Level 12
    Unstable Current/Static Link
    Level 13
    Static Link
    Level 14
    Static Link
    Level 15
    Stats
    Level 16
    Eye of the Storm

    one lvl of static link is good enough at early game..

    BUT.. let this noob say this, the skill build depends on the game and the opponents you are playing against.



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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Quote Originally Posted by @mrX View Post
    As a noob DOTA starter, I have picked Razor as he is easy to handle and stylish. Can you guys help me to find some answers?

    01. What is the best Item combination for Razor? Please be brief and explain why.
    02. What is the combo for Razor to kill a Hero? Give your own idea.
    03. How to gain levels more quickly with him? I know he is a good farmer but at AI maps even with easy opponents, I cant keep up with others heroes when playing Razor.
    04. What will be the best skill build sequence for him?
    05. I think the Static Link is totally useless, how can I make it useful?

    Besides Razor, whom you suggest most as a Easy yet powerful hero for starters like me?

    Thanks guys, I am really looking forward to your answer.
    Assuming your a starter, if you really want to learn to play with a hero first step is learn basic dota. Now dota is a team game and so there is really isin't "best items" but there is "core items" sometimes u need to make items according to your team requirements anyway first play with AI to get good a last hitting and denying and memorise the hero spell hotkeys. As for items and combos visit www.playdota.com .there are plenty of guides on many heroes which includes lots of knowledge. Dota requires not only skillz but knowledge too and thats what your going to gain by playing at cafes or GG.

    To sum up :

    1.Play with AI to learn basic dota and your hero properly [ i have seen people not buying boots claiming the unholy aura is enuf + Sange and Yasha]
    2.If you want to skip the self learning thing go visit dota websites and read their guides and use the info der to make ur own strategies.
    3.Free time or when there aren't much human players, practise with insane AI.This not you improve your Dotaing skill but this will help you get quite good at last hitting and denying. Trust me AI can last hit and deny very well and your target shud be that you keep with their exp and gold even though they more XP and gold than you.

    4. Play with humans in Pubs to test your strategies

    I am not dota pro or nything but these things shud help you a lot.

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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Quote Originally Posted by HeLL]deathknight View Post
    Assuming your a starter, if you really want to learn to play with a hero first step is learn basic dota. Now dota is a team game and so there is really isin't "best items" but there is "core items" sometimes u need to make items according to your team requirements anyway first play with AI to get good a last hitting and denying and memorise the hero spell hotkeys. As for items and combos visit www.playdota.com .there are plenty of guides on many heroes which includes lots of knowledge. Dota requires not only skillz but knowledge too and thats what your going to gain by playing at cafes or GG.

    To sum up :

    1.Play with AI to learn basic dota and your hero properly [ i have seen people not buying boots claiming the unholy aura is enuf + Sange and Yasha]
    2.If you want to skip the self learning thing go visit dota websites and read their guides and use the info der to make ur own strategies.
    3.Free time or when there aren't much human players, practise with insane AI.This not you improve your Dotaing skill but this will help you get quite good at last hitting and denying. Trust me AI can last hit and deny very well and your target shud be that you keep with their exp and gold even though they more XP and gold than you.

    4. Play with humans in Pubs to test your strategies

    I am not dota pro or nything but these things shud help you a lot.
    Thanks for the extra advise man, I really appreciate it.
    But I was looking for some help to my specified questions, I would be glad if you could shed some light on them.
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Can you guys suggest me a item build?

    I use:
    HoD > Satanic
    Bloodstone
    EoS
    BoT
    Butterfly
    Crystalys > Buriza

    I didn't planned them though, just use them randomly.
    What would be a good escape plan (with or without item) ? What is feeding (that I am dying much or I am not denying properly) ? How do I stop a hero from auto kill? I mean I want to hit the last finishing shot only but hero seems to auto kill everyone. How do I customize keyboard shortcuts?
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Razor does not need the bloodstone. HotD is a nice item to get, follow up with Satanic. But the first item for Razor has to be Vanguard. You may want to buy a hood depending the opponent heroes. Phase and Treads and Travel are all viable for Razor. A stick can come in handy.

    Follow up the core with Yasha-manta, complete Satanic or go straight Butterfly. That is what I would aim for.

    Escape plan always revolves around map awareness. Feeding is what you will do playing against SP... Last hitting comes from practice and practice and some more practice.
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmareX View Post
    As a noob DOTA starter, I have picked Razor as he is easy to handle and stylish. Can you guys help me to find some answers?

    01. What is the best Item combination for Razor? Please be brief and explain why.
    02. What is the combo for Razor to kill a Hero? Give your own idea.
    03. How to gain levels more quickly with him? I know he is a good farmer but at AI maps even with easy opponents, I cant keep up with others heroes when playing Razor.
    04. What will be the best skill build sequence for him?
    05. I think the Static Link is totally useless, how can I make it useful?

    Besides Razor, whom you suggest most as a Easy yet powerful hero for starters like me?

    Thanks guys, I am really looking forward to your answer.


    Razor is not a imba or a easy hero...in my view its a Pro hero...as razor has low Hp n armor

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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    01. What is the best Item combination for Razor? Please be brief and explain why.
    -Well, first u can make a stick treads/Phase boot. Then u go for a Vanguard and hood and then u can carry on with items like manta style, Radiance, Butterfly etc.

    02. What is the combo for Razor to kill a Hero? Give your own idea.
    -Razor can combo with any support hero, could be Demon Witch, EarthSHaker, Crystal Maiden, Sand King, Enigma jungle and then help razor time to time. These are not ma ideas this is basically wat happens in competitive DOTA.

    03. How to gain levels more quickly with him? I know he is a good farmer but at AI maps even with easy opponents, I cant keep up with others heroes when playing Razor.
    Just last properly and take all creeps and try to deny as much as possible and if u are playing AI then u shud turn off the double exp for the AI heroes then only u can keep up with those AI heroes!

    04. What will be the best skill build sequence for him?
    - I think skill builds are as same as posted above.

    05. I think the Static Link is totally useless, how can I make it useful?
    - It is not at all useless it swaps the opponents damage if I am not wrong use it wisely and its gr8.

    Besides Razor, whom you suggest most as a Easy yet powerful hero for starters like me?
    - Razor is one of the easiest heroes to start it was more easier before, u can also start with support heroes such as Crystal Maiden, Lich, Demon Witch etc

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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    Thanks for the help man, but its a really old thread, like all noobs, I was kinda obsessed with razor back then..
    Now I am trying others heroes and Tinker is cool..
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    Default Re: Playing with Razor: how to improve?

    @ Snaky: Vangaurd & Hood both needed? :/

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