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    Question Help with HD 4770

    I want to buy a Sapphire Radeon 4770 but I have a built in PSU with my casing which is MAXIN 500W. 25A @ +12V. Can I use a 4-pin to 6-pin converter & not buy another PSU? or just that I must buy a PSU. I am also planning to buy Q6600 replacing my E4400.

    Another question, ECS GTS 250 512MB er price 10000 tk. So whether should I go with that or 4770?

    I am planning to OC 4770.

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    quadcore or gts250 use korle psu change korete hobe .

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Sapphire Toxic HD4850 is better than a 4770 with less price.

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Changing the PSU is recommended to atleast a Tt litepower 400W for 3,300/-

    About the GPU, get either the GTS250 or the HD4850. You wont go wrong with either one

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    Unhappy Re: Help with HD 4770

    but I have heard that overclocking 4770 beats the 4850 & gts 250 @ higher res. with AA AF enabled.

    Should I still not go with 4770? (I am planning to game @ high res)

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    I got my PSU with my catching.
    It is writen 400w and it is still working with 4770
    please check my pc config.
    RЯ

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by freelance View Post
    I got my PSU with my catching.
    It is writen 400w and it is still working with 4770
    please check my pc config.
    yah it runs with generic ones, but thats not safe if u want to overclock i think..

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    yah it runs with generic ones, but thats not safe if u want to overclock i think..
    actually I am not familiar with overclock. So I am not doing it.
    But I can play game. That is what I need and I am happy with performance.
    That's all.
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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    yah it runs with generic ones, but thats not safe if u want to overclock i think..
    I assure you 4770/4850 is going to work with any PSU with RATED 500Wattage and good for upto 15% overclocking from stock clock. And your PSU does not have to have any Dedicated PCiX 2.0 (6+2 pin) connector, you can use PCIX (6+2) converter on 4 pin perpherial (for Hard Drive, DVD-ROM) connectors for the GFX card. You can even use a 450Watt for 4850/4770 if you have just minimum conponents in your system and not any USB devices that draws power, however in that case, the OverClock panel in catalyst Controll center will automatically be disabled by the ATI driver to prevent overclocking, the will work fine with its stock clock. Only concern is make sure the PSU wattage is Rated. Its never safe to use an unrated PSU.

    Also, 4770 is way more Over clockable then 4850 and yes, it gives better Frame rate then 4850 when overclocked above 30%. But it starts showing "artifacts" in screen. Means it shows unwanted shapes, lines, color in the screen which makes game look ugly and sometimes (specially for games Like Batman Arkham, NFS) unplayble. You'll need expensive cooling systems on your Card to overcome that. But for that kind of expence no point buying a 4770... can easily buy a better PSU and 4870. LOL... anyways. Goodluck

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    2 mole-x converter will do good in a generic PSU if it does have them.
    and with every GFX card 6 pin>2 molex is always given.

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    Thanx for help.

    But I need some help to choose my processor. I am currently using E4400 with Intel 965 MoBo which surely should Bottleneck my GPU. What processor(+mobo if necessary) should I choose such that my GPU is not bottlenecked and as well as I dont have to change my PSU (+low budget) (+some OC would be great!).

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by shah.abid View Post
    Thanx for help.

    But I need some help to choose my processor. I am currently using E4400 with Intel 965 MoBo which surely should Bottleneck my GPU. What processor(+mobo if necessary) should I choose such that my GPU is not bottlenecked and as well as I dont have to change my PSU (+low budget) (+some OC would be great!).
    haha ei question er answer khub e shohoj. buy the best one you can afford. for mobo i'd say try to avoid intel's G series chipset.

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by Streamyx View Post
    haha ei question er answer khub e shohoj. buy the best one you can afford. for mobo i'd say try to avoid intel's G series chipset.

    why not G series?
    I am using G31 ASUS for 8 monthes now @ full throttle and never faced a problem.

    Using E5200 and G31 mobo will not bootleneck your card.
    they are less costy too.
    you can manage em in about 8.6K.

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by VarStepen™ View Post
    why not G series?
    I am using G31 ASUS for 8 monthes now @ full throttle and never faced a problem.

    Using E5200 and G31 mobo will not bootleneck your card.
    they are less costy too.
    you can manage em in about 8.6K.
    Well i didn't say absolutely no to G series.
    I just said not to go for it as long as ppl can afford P series and its not that expencive, just a tad bit costly . But worth it... G31 does get bottle necked in PCI channel even if you turn off the IGP it doesnot disables the IGP all the PCIX bus still runs through IGP and thus creates delay. too much load from an Overclocked PCIX bus and the bus totally crashes and bios gets reset to default. Check the bus layout in the Intel website. G series er PCI bus overclockable na. You can only overclock the GFX er cockspeed and memory speed... can NOT increase the PCIX bus to a higher setting from its default 100Hz. Eita to gelo overclock er kotha... Overclock charao G series has reduced number of bus pipelines compared to P series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streamyx View Post
    Well i didn't say absolutely no to G series.
    I just said not to go for it as long as ppl can afford P series and its not that expencive, just a tad bit costly . But worth it... G31 does get bottle necked in PCI channel even if you turn off the IGP it doesnot disables the IGP all the PCIX bus still runs through IGP and thus creates delay. too much load from an Overclocked PCIX bus and the bus totally crashes and bios gets reset to default. Check the bus layout in the Intel website. G series er PCI bus overclockable na. You can only overclock the GFX er cockspeed and memory speed... can NOT increase the PCIX bus to a higher setting from its default 100Hz. Eita to gelo overclock er kotha... Overclock charao G series has reduced number of bus pipelines compared to P series.
    why would you increase the pci-e bus in the first place...it is not like the OCing tha bus will help with latency
    another thing OCing the gfx cards is done via(most of the time) in software mode like using the Forceware drivers for nV cards which allows core/mem/shaders to be OCed or by using Catalyst for Radeon cards which allows the OCing of core & mem(since in ATI cards the shaders is linked with the core...as you OC the core, you OC the shader as well)

    so there is no need to OC the G series pci bus...as it is useless to OC it & doesnt count at all...the clock & memory speed can be OCed independently...the motherboard doesnt count

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by Streamyx View Post
    Well i didn't say absolutely no to G series.
    I just said not to go for it as long as ppl can afford P series and its not that expencive, just a tad bit costly . But worth it... G31 does get bottle necked in PCI channel even if you turn off the IGP it doesnot disables the IGP all the PCIX bus still runs through IGP and thus creates delay. too much load from an Overclocked PCIX bus and the bus totally crashes and bios gets reset to default. Check the bus layout in the Intel website. G series er PCI bus overclockable na. You can only overclock the GFX er cockspeed and memory speed... can NOT increase the PCIX bus to a higher setting from its default 100Hz. Eita to gelo overclock er kotha... Overclock charao G series has reduced number of bus pipelines compared to P series.
    Overclocking PCI-e bus creates instability. If u set ur PCI-bus more than 115mhz ur HDD data may become corrupted and sometimes it fails to detect HDD properly. Again overclocking PCI-e bus has little improvement upon 100mhz. So besically it doesn't do any good. If u want to OC higher u have to set ur PCI-e bus at 100mhz.

    And Gigabyte G31 s2l can overclock PCI-e bus and also mine. I have tested both.

    And can u plz give me any link where I can know more about 'G series has reduced number of bus pipelines compared to P series' . I am not familiar with this. I want to know about it.
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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by VarStepen™ View Post
    why not G series?
    I am using G31 ASUS for 8 monthes now @ full throttle and never faced a problem.

    Using E5200 and G31 mobo will not bootleneck your card.
    they are less costy too.
    you can manage em in about 8.6K.
    i think my E4500 & 945 mobo is bottlenecking my card
    Quote Originally Posted by shaikh_imtiaj View Post
    And can plz give me any link where I can know more about 'G series has reduced number of bus pipelines compared to P series' . I am not familiar with this. I want to know about it.
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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    I didn't know that.:S
    please provide us link.

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    Default Re: Help with HD 4770

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    i think my E4500 & 945 mobo is bottlenecking my card

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    Abir bhai apni mobo change kore E4500 mild overclock (around 2.8-3.0ghz) kore dekhen. I think apnar card r bottlenecked hobe na. Its hell of a beast. Amar ek friend ata use korse(E5200 OC to 3Ghz). 1680x1050 all high e prai shob game-e smooth khelte parse.

    Apni Gigabyte G31-ES2L ta nite paren. Ota OC friendly mobo. Price 3800tk. So apnar besi khoroch korte hobe na.
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    HD 4770 has DDR 5....and if u overclock this u ll get better performance thn HD 4850...i am using 4770...bt i suggest u to buy 4850 as u want play games with high resulation

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