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    Question Graphics Card Discussion-budget 25k

    i'm gonna buy either nv 760 or amd 270x.they will reach BD in 2 or 3weeks. they are 260$ and 210$ so i guess in Bangladesh they will be sold below ~25k. (msi cards seem to be cheaper in both cases).

    i know 270x is at least 15% slower and 50$ cheaper than 760, i actually wanted to buy 760 coz it is within ma max budget and i'm a nv fan. but there are some technologies that i'm interested in, as i will not upgrade anymore for next couple of years, so i need the 'future proof' thing with directx.
    760 officially dx11 card, 760 seems to support 11.1 and r9 270x supports 11.2(which is xbox1 and win8.1 exclusive). but somebody told me gtx700 will not actually support all features of 11.1 and 11.2, only a few feature of it. and r9 270x supports every feature of 11.1 (!) and some feature of 11.2. QUESTION 1: is it true? if he said the truth then i dont want to buy 760. i know we have to wait for a long time to see 11.1 and 11.2 games, but i want to be 'future proof'.

    QUESTION 2: i heard 760 also has good video capture abilities with only 5% performance drop? does 270x have it too?

    about amd mantle and truaudio, they are great features but i dont think they will be necessary in next couple of years, and nvidia can use mantle too.

    another thing that made myself to take 270x into consideration is that BF4 is an amd sponsored game, so even if i buy cheaper card it (probably) wont be a big problem to run bf4 at highest setting. although i dislike amd bcoz of their drivers

    i also know next gtx 800 will be released in early 2014 but the thing is its too late and mid range gtx 800 will be released in mid 2014 then BD te aste aste.... u know. thats why i dont want to wait.
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    Why don't just buy 280 or 280x ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    Why don't just buy 280 or 280x ?
    there is something called budget bro
    i dont think they will be 25k, if they will then definitely yes.

    PS: there is no 280, i think you are talking about 280x

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    Well NV supports partial DirectX 11.1 with only hardware feature level 11_0. ~http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...bute280a6.aspx

    Looks like Microsoft is desparate to increase Windows 8 userbase. That's why making it 8.1 exclusive. But like every Direct3D before, games'll backward compatible; sans the new features.
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...directx-11-2-/

    I can't predict future, but I wouldn't make Direct3D software(or hardware) level support my buying criteria. But if you wanna be on the safe side, you could buy a Radeon HD 7950 Boost Edition. Though both 7950s are quite slower than GTX 760.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunia_r_JAURA View Post
    Well NV supports partial DirectX 11.1 with only hardware feature level 11_0.

    But like every Direct3D before, games'll backward compatible; sans the new features.

    I wouldn't make Direct3D software(or hardware) level support my buying criteria. But if you wanna be on the safe side, you could buy a Radeon HD 7950 Boost Edition. Though both 7950s are quite slower than GTX 760.
    does r9 270x's hardware fully support directx 11.1 (and 11.2)?


    i know but as i am spending much money i wanna see 11.1/11.2 features when game got released by using it.


    i cant blv 7950 boost edition support full dx11.1/2, bcoz they released in 2012

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    i have same question as this post, interested to see response from others.

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    All GCN will have support for dx11.2, most probably amd ensured it.And about 280x,280 afaik 280x (=7970HDghz with turbo) to be 299$ and 280 to be 249$ (=7950HD boost with turbo) .7870HD XT = 270x ~ 199$Where 280x almost touches gtx780, having less OC headroom.In this situation, i think buying a 2nd hand 7970hd and changing bios to 280x would be a risky but cheaper choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    All GCN will have support for dx11.2, most probably amd ensured it.



    And about 280x,280 afaik 280x (=7970HDghz with turbo) to be 299$ and 280 to be 249$ (=7950HD boost with turbo) .7870HD XT = 270x ~ 199$Where 280x almost touches gtx780, having less OC headroom.


    In this situation, i think buying a 2nd hand 7970hd and changing bios to 280x would be a risky but cheaper choice.
    but its the hardware full support that i want to decide based upon.


    280x touches 770 not 780 actually. and when 280 comes out i will compare it to 760.(with dx features)


    no i'm probably not gonna tweak bios like 6950>6970 (maybe i will but i wont take it as a buying criteria)

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    in my opinion, if possible, you should wait for another 4-6 weeks

    nvidia will probably slash prices of existing cards and new cards (760ti) might be coming, new game bundles are also going to be announced soon (possibly Arkham Origins)

    amd is going to update their game bundles as well

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    wait till Christmas

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    i probably gonna wait 2~3weeks.


    but i'm not interested in game bundles, u know why

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    @Taher furious , give prooves about 280x being touching gtx770.Probably u don't know gtx770 is rebranded gtx680.7970ghz =~ gtx680. 280x being 7970ghz with turbo upto 1100mhz reduces the gap from [email protected] .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    give prooves about 280x being touching gtx770.Probably u don't know gtx770 is rebranded gtx680.7970ghz =~ gtx680. 280x being 7970ghz with turbo upto 1100mhz reduces the gap from [email protected] .
    first of all i didnt actually say that, i corrected you>
    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    All GCN will have support for dx11.2, most probably amd ensured it.And about 280x,280 afaik 280x (=7970HDghz with turbo) to be 299$ and 280 to be 249$ (=7950HD boost with turbo) .7870HD XT = 270x ~ 199$Where 280x almost touches gtx780, having less OC headroom.In this situation, i think buying a 2nd hand 7970hd and changing bios to 280x would be a risky but cheaper choice.
    780 is only ~10% slower titan if 280x cant touch 770 then how can it touch 780?

    secondly http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,16.html this overclocked 280x better than nvidia 770 OEM in a very high res.
    normal msi/asus 280x is 5-10% slower than normal msi/sapphire 770, but if u compare the prices 320$ vs 400$ i guess u can say 280x is bang for bux and almost touches 770

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    EDIT: I think i misunderstood your post, if did pardon me, but as i said, even if stock 280x is faster than stock 770 its only 5%.

    lets stay on the topic. 280x is actually out of ma budget, but if it would i definitely would buy it best bang for the bux

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    does r9 270x's hardware fully support directx 11.1 (and 11.2)?


    i know but as i am spending much money i wanna see 11.1/11.2 features when game got released by using it.


    i cant blv 7950 boost edition support full dx11.1/2, bcoz they released in 2012
    Yes. All GCN architecture based graphics card support it. The next update of Catalyst will ensure that. But if you don't have Windows 8.1 forget about DirectX 11.2 and there's not a single activator as of now for W8.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunia_r_JAURA View Post
    Yes. All GCN architecture based graphics card support it. The next update of Catalyst will ensure that.
    yes
    now i need to know whether 760 will have a full 11.2 support after an update or 2. will have to wait for nvidia to talk about this.

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    does 700 series fully supprt 11.1 and 11.2 (hardware level)?

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    ^ I don't think so. u seem overly concerned with directx lol. These incremental dx update won't make much of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    ^ I don't think so. u seem overly concerned with directx lol. These incremental dx update won't make much of a difference.
    I don't think so.


    Direct3D 11.2 Features (Windows)


    Higher Fidelity Graphics with Less Memory at Microsoft Windows 8.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    does 700 series fully supprt 11.1 and 11.2 (hardware level)?
    They even don't fully support 11.1 and you're dreaming about 11.2? They supported dx11.1's hardware feature level 11_0 which helps gaming. But not 11_1, since it's mostly 2d rendering and doesn't matter in gaming.
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    i know those 'dx10.1 exclusive features' was a lame joke but here the thing is little bit different, it seems to me 11.1 and 11.2 tei next 3/4ta bosor cholbe ar egular kisu special feature ase so thats why i'm concerned about these dx

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    They even don't fully support 11.1 and you're dreaming about 11.2?
    ok
    but 7000 series is older than 700 and 600. but how do amd supports 11.2 in 7000 and r9 but nv cant in 600 and 700?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious

    ok
    but 7000 series is older than 700 and 600. but how do amd supports 11.2 in 7000 and r9 but nv cant in 600 and 700?
    *yawn* ghumate den. Ask Nv about it. *yawwwwn*

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    'Twas in the hardware. The chip supports those advanced what-nots, now they need drivers to enable it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    ^i'm sending agent 47 along with sam fisher to ur location... sleep well
    what?!! K er polar woody kaitta nibo amare disturb korle
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