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    Default BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    By tehPPR

    Hello, I'm Peter Paul Rubens, aka PPR, and I've never played DOTA nor WC3.

    [Non-DOTA-Players Anonymous]Hi, PPR![/non-dota-players anonymous]

    A friend of mine (an avid DOTA player) told me about this game. It looked intriguing from the youtube video so I figured "why not?". I asked him for an invite to the beta and he gave me one.

    I signed up for an account, downloaded the client, and installed it. All good so far.

    I see that there's an option to search for games for "Noobs Only". Perfect, I think, I'm clearly a noob. In the filtered list of games, I see a game titled "Noobs Come". Bingo. I join the game.... and I'm kicked from the game by the host. Before I even get to the waiting room screen (I don't even know there's a waiting room yet, it's my first game!). Just the loading screen, then a message box saying the host applied Ye Olde Jackboot to my face. I assume it's for having exactly zero games under my belt. Tough crowd, I think, an inauspicious start to be sure! Nothing to do but try again though.

    So I join a second game. More concerned than ever about my inexperience, I join a game titled "Beginners Only". Wheeeee, surely I'll fit in there. I choose a hero named War Beast, thinking it'd be a rough-and-tumble tank archetype. I generally like to start any game with a tank - even if you don't kill a lot of things, you survive well, giving you a chance to observe more of how the game is played (actually, I usually like to play against the computer before I make other people suffer through playing with me... no option for that though, at least that I could find, but I digress).

    No dice on tanking though, War Beast is a total sugar, apparently descended from a long line of punching bags. I'm sure he's a capable hero in someone's hands, but in mine, he may as well be Urkel.

    Of course I have NO IDEA what I'm doing. A few tentative clicks let me figure out how to move. I promptly move.. right off the screen. OK... the screen doesn't follow my dude. Gotta move the screen manually. Check. Still have no idea what to do, where to go, how to fight. Hotkeys? There are some... somewhere. Is there an attack button? No idea. I figure out if I double-click an enemy I will start attacking. I clumsily figure out that I can improve skills or something. I learn "Summon Hellhounds".. only to figure out that they're as difficult to move as I am. Perfect, more things to try to herd. I need that like I need a Drano enema. Oh look, an enemy hero! Four seconds later: "tehPPR was wtfpwnt by SomeDude for most of his gold". Yeehaw. Good times.

    I figure out I can buy things. What I should buy or when... no idea. Do I need to equip them, or do they take effect as soon as I purchase them? No idea. I also figure out that the swarming little minions (creeps?) can be distinguished by the border around the text box. Too bad I'm red-green colorblind, so I can't distinguish the colors unless I can compare one color to the other. (I saw there was a colorblind thread that the developers acknowledged they'd look into. Kudos for that.)

    A few more rapid deaths happen, and pretty soon the "ugh, War Beast, come ON!" comments from my team start. A couple minutes later, the vote to concede comes. By time I figure out I'm supposed to vote, I see my team has voted 4/5 to concede. I'm not a jackass so I vote to Concede as well. If my team has had enough of me I don't want to force them to continue with me. My "Beginners Only" game has voted that I'm too much of a beginner to bother playing with. Go figure.

    I join a third game, still searching with the "Noobs Only" filter. This one is titled "Noobs Only". Surely these dudes won't mind if I suck. I'm randomly assigned a hero. Seems to be another ranged-DPS archetype. Ugh. So as not to hold the game up, I click Ready right away. I figure out later that maybe I could've changed my hero to a tank type.. still not sure about that. Too late though, I tried to not be the lame noob holding things up at the waiting room and clicked Ready. Ah well.

    I get wtfpwnt several times. I've realized by now I need to kill things in order to level up. So I fight. And I die. And my team-mates start telling me to "stay back... it's better if you just don't die." So I stay back. And pretty soon I'm level 5, and everyone else is level 13. My enemies appear next to me, out of nowhere. They two-hit-kill me. Next time I see an enemy hero appear, I try to run away. He freezes me with some ice blast thingy so I can't move. He two-hits me again. My teammates yell at me to "STAY BACK" again. I'm at a loss.. it seems "stay back" really means "stop playing". Stop moving, stop fighting, stop helping, stop dying. I think, Is that really what it comes down to? Do I suck SO BAD they're better off without me? Unfortunately my question is answered all to quickly. My team votes to boot me. From a game titled "Noobs Only".

    SOOOOOOO... 3 games in, I've been forcibly kicked twice, and my team decided to forfeit on the other, and I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING. There's no tutorial video, no way to take a test-spin against the computer to at least figure out the basic controls, and no way to review the heroes and gear without actually being in a game.

    I understand this game is targeted at DOTA players... so please, just tell me if I'm wasting my time trying to get up to speed. Is this game really meant to be UNPLAYABLE for anyone who hasn't played hundreds of DOTA games?
    I couldnt stop laughing!!

    But its the same with almost every1 new to Dota or HON. Its fun to read ^^

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player



    HoH will have built-in AI versions afaik.
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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Ahh, hah aha! LOL! Everyone goes through it. That's what makes it soooo SWEET once you get there. LOL!

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    But, Item names in HoN SucK.... Butterfly > Wingbow, and I want my Orchid Malevolence...



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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Well i love Valkyrie [mirana]! Oh what an angel..

    and look at Moon quin [Luna]!!! what a bug!!! and what is it with juggy!! I hate that model... i lobe svens hammer though.

    hay.. how come zuse ends up being a monkey dude?? Man i gotta say.. that rosh is a real scary ¤¤¤¤!!

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    Ya, Jugg looks better as a fel orc... And I like the Rosh on the other map... The one which is not a monkey...



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    It was really freaky starting the new 3 v 3 map!! I never thought i have to play in those lans..

    Its just [EB]. Not Elite B[a]stard or anything like that.

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    LoL
    The thing that pissed me off the most, was that they turned Lina into a old man.. >.< and Trax into a spider... >.<



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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Which hero did you like the most?

    I am not even finished trying all the heroes..

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    I played almost all of them, I liked Riki (Night Hound), he can ks Roshan like a pro.. Kraken is also hella imba...
    Chronos is just lame, has a CD on bash and evasion...



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    I tell you .. S2 games like apes. roshan is an ape.. and then zues! lol..

    I am waiting for PA.. it really sucks playing with Manabane.. what an ugly model.. they ruined AM. Even the attack speed is slowed.

    Cronos er bash e o cooldown abar evasion e o cooldown!!! You are 110% right.. they ruined Void too.

    I am waiting for PA. Come on S2.. gimme a sexy PA... and i am waiting for bara + Notrom.

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Just play DotA! Howd's that advice sound? And if you are to discuss it, why not open a new thread?

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    I guess you r right about that.

    About the thread thingy.. well.. this thread was opened to discus HoN!! Giddy quoted a person who never played dota but tried HoN.

    Anyways.. i think he should have opened it in the "Online Multiplayer" section.

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Well, not really. To discuss HoN no, for the comical appeal yes. See you can't go on day and night about HoN, no problems. But the thing is that people who would like comment on the comical aspects will to do so, if this threads deviates and turns into a fully fledged discussion of HoN. Get my point?

    That's only the reason why. In fact I haven't tried it yet, and i'm pretty sure most of didn't. Why don't you post a link to it and actually open a thread about it.

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    we have at least 3 people with mod powers in this section. instead of argument,
    why cant someone select the HoN related posts and move them?

    ---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:12 ----------

    we have at least 3 people with mod powers in this section. instead of argument,
    why cant someone select the HoN related posts and move them?
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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    Do it yourself lazy bazy!!!!
    Click here to find out how a noob plays the Anti Mage

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    Default Re: BRUTAL Learning Curve for non-DOTA player

    now plz move this off topic thread from the DotA section I just hate to see it here ....

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