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    So I've been mining bitcoins for quite a while now, so just wanted to know if anyone here does it too.

    For who don't know what it's all about, bitcoin is an internet currency. Read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin

    So the thing is, you can "mine" bitcoins using your AMD GPU (you can do it on the CPU and Nvidia cards as well but it really isn't worth it), and then use them to buy stuff or sell them for real money. A 7970 generates bitcoins at a rate of around 550 Mega hashes (Mhashes) a second, whereas a 680 does about 120Mhashes a sec. I've been mining on a 5770 and it gives 180Mhps.

    To check your card's hash rate: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
    Here's a bitcoin calculator to calculate how much you can earn a day/week/year. Enter your card's hashrate from the above link. http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

    Now if you want to mine bitcoins, you'll need a client. The most popular one out there is GUI miner (download it here) which comes preloaded with the settings of a few popular mining pools. Mining pools are groups where people contribute to generate a single block and then split the reward between the miners according to their contributions. We mine in pools because it is very hard to find a block if we are mining solo.

    I'm too lazy to write a tut on how to start mining, but this should help: http://www.overclock.net/t/1398219/b...rmation-thread

    You will need a bitcoin wallet to store the btc you mine. You can either have a wallet on your own pc, or can use an online wallet, which imo is less secure. There are several software wallets - Bitcoin-qt, Multibit, etc. Bitcoin-qt takes a lot of time to sync with the network so I use Multibit and would recommend it too. Or if you want to have an online wallet, I'd recommend http://coinbase.com. Used it before and it's pretty straightforward.

    You will have a bitcoin address (a group of letters and numbers) which you will need to add to your mining account, and the coins you mine will be sent to your wallet. Remember to set a withdrawal threshold.

    For the latest btc exchange rates, go to: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html.

    To find where you can sell your bitcoins: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Selling_bitcoins or you can sell them to me but I'll take a fee

    If you have any questions, feel free to pm me or post here.
    Last edited by Dee; June 8th, 2013 at 17:35.

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    Whoa, @Dee , the shadow-banker. Thanks for the thread, I was wondering why one hasn't started as yet.

    you should clarify some things like:

    1) How much moolah can be made in a day, week, month with varying hash rates. After all, the return is what ppl want to know.
    2) GPU calculations will have to be 24 hrs? Will the returns justify the costs - electricity, sharing processor time, sharing of work time.
    3) Explain the mining process and conversion mechanism. The bigger picture. If a GPU is mining at hash-rates and giving you Bitcoins? Whom is benefiting from this process?
    4) Bitcoin is the only alternate shadow instrument?
    5) where to sell them - explain 'I WILL TAKE A FEE'.

    I am confused - is this all a ploy to sell ' BITCOIN MINERS'?

    Get ready folks - I think the next ppl cheating scheme is on the horizon. Soon all those SKYLANCER/DOOLANCER/HOODOO LANCER mofos will set up shadow exchanges and bring abt another melt-wave.



    Hey, were you able to find your mama whom was lost some time ago?
    Last edited by REVx; June 8th, 2013 at 17:20.

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    >1) How much moolah can be made in a day, week, month with varying hash rates. After all, the return is what ppl want to know.

    Impossible to answer, and bitcoin mining is no longer worth it. You guys are three years too late to the party.

    > 2) GPU calculations will have to be 24 hrs? Will the returns justify the costs - electricity, sharing processor time, sharing of work time.

    It's like [email protected], you can run it whenever and turn it off when you want to.

    > 3) Explain the mining process and conversion mechanism. The bigger picture. If a GPU is mining at hash-rates and giving you Bitcoins? Whom is benefiting from this process?

    You are, bitcoins can be sold at pretty high rates(albeit random) on exchanges like Mt.Gox. (https://mtgox.com/)

    > 4) Bitcoin is the only alternate shadow instrument?

    There are litecoins, which is the only other known implementation of decentralized currency at the moment.

    > 5) where to sell them - explain 'I WILL TAKE A FEE'.

    Nowhere local, Mt.Gox is your best bet.

    >Get ready folks - I think the next ppl cheating scheme is on the horizon.

    Anybody thinking of trying that is 4 years too late to the party, sadly. If anyone still falls for it, well, their fault for being dumb.

    @Dee How much do you have? A friend may or may not be in need of some in the near future. I've arranged for it from abroad, but I might send him your way too.



    //reise

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    Quote Originally Posted by REVx View Post
    Whoa, @Dee , the shadow-banker. Thanks for the thread, I was wondering why one hasn't started as yet.

    you should clarify some things like:

    1) How much moolah can be made in a day, week, month with varying hash rates. After all, the return is what ppl want to know.
    2) GPU calculations will have to be 24 hrs? Will the returns justify the costs - electricity, sharing processor time, sharing of work time.
    3) Explain the mining process and conversion mechanism. The bigger picture. If a GPU is mining at hash-rates and giving you Bitcoins? Whom is benefiting from this process?
    4) Bitcoin is the only alternate shadow instrument?
    5) where to sell them - explain 'I WILL TAKE A FEE'.

    I am confused - is this all a ploy to sell ' BITCOIN MINERS'?

    Get ready folks - I think the next ppl cheating scheme is on the horizon. Soon all those SKYLANCER/DOOLANCER/HOODOO LANCER mofos will set up shadow exchanges and bring abt another melt-wave.



    Hey, were you able to find your mama whom was lost some time ago?
    Updated the op with your first question.
    2. Well no. You can mine as long as you want. I mine 24/7 with a 5770 now and I get ~0.01btc a day. For me, there was an increase of just 200-300tk in the electricity bill, so yeah no big deal.
    3. It uses the cpu or gpu's processing power to generate a block thus mine some bitcoins. Only you are benefited by your contribution to generate a block.
    4. Don't know what you meant by shadow instrument, but there are other cryptocurrencies like litecoins, namecoins, etc.
    5. I am yet to find out a good site that buys btc for paypal cash, but I sold a few coins to a friend and if anyone wants to sell btc for paypal cash, I'll hopefully be able to get them sold. I'll take a small amount of the total btc I get you sold.

    I don't think there's any cheating in it if you know what you are doing. Only thing you have to be careful about is when selling btc for paypal cash, the buyer can easily get a refund. So whoever you sell it to, make sure they don't try to get a refund.

    And about my uncle, no.

    Ninja'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    @Dee How much do you have? A friend may or may not be in need of some in the near future. I've arranged for it from abroad, but I might send him your way too.
    I sold all of mine a few days back to a friend when it was about $120/btc, but will let you know when I have some more.
    Last edited by Dee; June 8th, 2013 at 18:06.

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    Can i partake in this little scheme somehow? really have a good Rig setting. Would my 550 Ti generate good rate of Hashes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Can i partake in this little scheme somehow? really have a good Rig setting. Would my 550 Ti generate good rate of Hashes?
    Noup, Nvidia cards aren't good for mining.

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    Yup. Nvidia's r shite for those hash calculations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    >1) How much moolah can be made in a day, week, month with varying hash rates. After all, the return is what ppl want to know.

    Impossible to answer, and bitcoin mining is no longer worth it. You guys are three years too late to the party.

    > 2) GPU calculations will have to be 24 hrs? Will the returns justify the costs - electricity, sharing processor time, sharing of work time.

    It's like [email protected], you can run it whenever and turn it off when you want to.

    > 3) Explain the mining process and conversion mechanism. The bigger picture. If a GPU is mining at hash-rates and giving you Bitcoins? Whom is benefiting from this process?

    You are, bitcoins can be sold at pretty high rates(albeit random) on exchanges like Mt.Gox. (https://mtgox.com/)

    > 4) Bitcoin is the only alternate shadow instrument?

    There are litecoins, which is the only other known implementation of decentralized currency at the moment.

    > 5) where to sell them - explain 'I WILL TAKE A FEE'.

    Nowhere local, Mt.Gox is your best bet.

    >Get ready folks - I think the next ppl cheating scheme is on the horizon.

    Anybody thinking of trying that is 4 years too late to the party, sadly. If anyone still falls for it, well, their fault for being dumb.

    @Dee How much do you have? A friend may or may not be in need of some in the near future. I've arranged for it from abroad, but I might send him your way too.



    //reise
    I know all those brotha.
    I asked those - so they'd come out open in the forum. Btc was introduced in 2009. Today, winning the lottery for 25 BTc would be apparently 10 million times more harder. More as more time passes.

    However, that has never stopped our golden sons in the past. What did they do with computer-based MLMs?

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    What bout Litecoin processing? uses script instead of SHA for Hashing. I heard it suits Nvidia Cards

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    Well, I found out about Bitcoins just last week, and I was so sad that I didn't know about it in 2010-2011. I could've been rich by now .

    Now, my 50mh/s 4830 will eat up more money in electricity than producing some. But still, I've got free electricity at uni, I am thinking of trying this as a lottery bet by mining solo without any pool. Might never get a single coin ever, but if I strike a block of 25 coins by any chance, insta rich .

    Now, I have two questions,

    I have a little information void about maintaining my bitcoin wallet. Can I transfer my wallet from one client to another?

    Any good client for mining solo? I can find instructions to use Bitcoin-qt for solo mining, but I am little impatient for the 6GB block chain to download. Cannot find anything about mining solo with multibit.

    No forum on internet is wiling to assist any way for solo mining, telling it is not profitable in small scale.
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    I tried it as an experiment for sometime. Not worth it anymore. ASICs have destroyed the market.

    A lot of people trade now. but the market is insanely volatile. even more than BD Stock market.

    Mining solo is worthless now. Pool mining is the idea. If you do not get at least one block you cant have any bitcoins. pool-mining increases the odds significantly.

    Good thing about litecoins is there are no ASICs involved yet. as it uses a different hashing algorithm. on the other hand ltcs are way cheaper.

    around 2009 you could have got the most powerful ati cards and crossfired. and you could have pulled the cost of the rig in 1-2months. now it wont even pay for the electricity.
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    Actually I'm not looking for profit anymore, as it is clear that it is impossible with GPUs now. I'm thinking of trying it just for fun. And by my calculation, on pooled mining a I have 100% guarantee that I'll lose 5$ per month on electricity and by solo mining I have 0.0000001% chance that I'd get ~2000$ in one day. That's interesting enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaz_swapnil View Post
    Actually I'm not looking for profit anymore, as it is clear that it is impossible with GPUs now. I'm thinking of trying it just for fun. And by my calculation, on pooled mining a I have 100% guarantee that I'll lose 5$ per month on electricity and by solo mining I have 0.0000001% chance that I'd get ~2000$ in one day. That's interesting enough for me.
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