Need Heating Solution

[GTracer]

Guys.... can anybody help me solving the heating problem...??? I just can understand why it is heating up so much....!!!

Just went to BIOS after PC just Turned on. and after like 5 or 7 mins later... this is the hardware temperature...



1st of all... what is processor thermal margin....??? normally the more the temperature is, more is bad for any components... but here its just opposite... the more the temperature, the better...!! WHY?????

And also just after loading windows and idle for about 10 mins...






When high processing appz like games or video editing/encodings are on, it heats up a lot. The Processor Thermal margin reaches at 18 even when its cooler fan running at 4000rpm (very noisy, as if my processor is going to burn)... motherboard reaches about 60, others gets high as well...!!! So I'm kinda worried....!!!

I just recently brought Thermaltake thinking if the heating would change... but no... It doesn't...!!!
(((offtopic: Also because of my biggest miscalculation on choosing the PSU, My 8800GTS is gone off...!!!)))
I went to Binary Logic (who gave me the PC), to solve this heating problem... even they cant understand the problem...!!!

When i 1st got the PC, temperature was like somewhat like this:

Processor Thermal Margin = 50
Motherboard Temp = 37
ICH = 78
MCH = 67

This was almost same for last summer.


My PC Specs:

Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme Q6850 @ 3 Ghz
Motherboard: Intel Desktop Board DP35DP (On its manual, there is no mention about support with Core 2 Extreme)
PCI Ex: ATI HD4670
HDD 1: Seagate SATA 160GB
HDD 2: Western Digital Sata 320GB
PSU: Thermaltake TR2-500W
Heatsink: Stock (Got with the processor)
Fan: 1 Front, 1 Rear (Max Speed 1600 RPM)


Also if anyone can, tell me the thermal specs for my processor

Waiting for your help...!!!

[Uchiha Obito]

It's showing ICH and MCH temp as normal.
but i am still confused

[Mohaan]

maybe the heatsink is causing the problem as it is a stock one........not sure...

[Uchiha Obito]

may be it's chipset problem .
ICH is in southbridge and it shouldn't get that high.

[Codex]

There's no way that the southbridge temp should be that high.Maybe lower the oc if you have oced it and try changing to a different heatsink if possible.
another eason i think this may be:
If you have checked the weather temp nowadays you'd have found that it's somewhat 35~40 degree C.
So pcs are gonna be hotter.Call off the oc if it's there.And put in a better fan
Hopefully that'll better the situation
Hope i helped.
PS:Coldfire gave me the weather heating idea!

[GTracer]

Sometimes when only play video files for two hours or more... ICH almost reaches 94.....!!! is there any solutions??

Edit: @Wintereise

I haven't OC'ed anything....!!! and i tried by removing the side casing, but didnt reduced that much....!!! Might try adding a side fan.... btw how much they cost??
It may also be the weather... have to wait and see it the temp reduces in rainy days... Thanx for the idea..>!!!!

[AmareX]

I figured out what the "processor thermal margin" is. As I understand it, your BIOS takes your CPU's thermal spec and subtracts the CPU's current temp from it, giving you the "processor thermal margin" - giving you an indication of how much hotter the CPU can get before it runs hotter than what it is designed to handle. In other words, you want the "processor thermal margin" to be as high as possible - the higher it is, the cooler your CPU is.

So dont worry about it. But your MB temp is really a bit high! I wonder what type of cooling solution you use inside your casing. Use some good cooler and place them properly as they can bring inside hot air outside. Sometimes people place it at wrong side. Also clean any dust from your MB and place inside cables at a side so they dont prevent air flowing. You should also check that heatsink on your MBs SB and NB is working properly. Sometimes they needed to be re glued (apply new thermal paste). Check your bios that if any wrong power setting is causing over heat. Try resetting them to default.

Hope that helps.

[Codex]

Side fans.Add a 120 mm.They don't cost much.And for such a great cpu get a decent cooler.There are a lot of them available.
Speaking of coolers,I myself need one

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

Get a casing with more fans in it. Also, might I suggest an actual cooler if you haven't got one.

I have a CoolerMAster V8, works wonders.

(Haven't read anything in details, so excuse me if I repost anything already said here or already mentioned in the Opening Post)

[SinEater]

Your casing seems to be a bit congested to support proper air flow at the moment. Keep it clean and tidy. Do the simple things properly. Tie up the loose cables inside in bundles. Keep these away from the path of the fans. Get at least another fan in the casing. If possible, get a good fan on the MB chipsets.

[GTracer]

Thanx all for the help..!!!

Well The cables are tied in a side... so i guess no problem with the airflow... i have to try with cleaning the dust...!!!

So.... how much these acutal coolers and fans for mobo chipsets cost?? and is there any brand i have to look for?

[Codex]

in bd not everything is available.You can get some nice fans(for processors and chipset) at Ucc(united computer center in idb at the topmost floor)
Cost varies from 4000~7000iss for a nice cooler.

[minitt]

1. Re-sit the CPU along with fresh thermal compund.

2. Softy sensor things are not always a good thing to b depended on.

Check with ur bare finger...Caz ull be able to understand easily whether it is really that high like ur software readings.

ICH chip is located at the bottom HS usually near the sata connector.

MCH is the one in THE middle (usually the bigger HS thing in the mobo)

if the temps r really that high then u wont be able to keep ur finger on them more than few seconds.

3. Check ur PSU voltage rails thru a multimeter ( though i highly doubt thats the issue since u already have a decent 1)

4.Get the latest bios update.

5.next time consider buying somthing other than intel... ( sorii but thats the reality)

U shouldve checked the ur mobo's cpu compatibility list. besides intel MB aint good for high end setups.

and btw CPU thermal margin is NOT the CPU temp. rather its a kind of indicator how far it can sustain without being unstable. So get the real CPU temp through 3rd party soft like lavasoft everest ultimate.