A 800va ups for i5-8400 & 1050ti?

[Juboraz]

Shouldn't a 800va ups be enough for a I5 and 1050ti?

I got a 650w psu but my total power consumption should be around ~300watts.
However the apollo 800va ups I recently bought can't seem to handle the system in case of power loss while gaming.


Are the ups's in the local market not up to the mark?or am I missing out on something?

[TRazerK]

The ups's in our local market are not up to the mark at all. I live in an area where there's very minimal load-shedding, and still my 2 back-to-back 1200VA ups batteries just died after only a year or so

Your new ups should give you some backup time (around 10-15 mins) if it is sufficient enough. If it's not, then I guess you should return it to the shop as it may be a case of faulty batteries

[Juboraz]

The ups's in our local market are not up to the mark at all. I live in an area where there's very minimal load-shedding, and still my 2 back-to-back 1200VA ups batteries just died after only a year or so

Your new ups should give you some backup time (around 10-15 mins) if it is sufficient enough. If it's not, then I guess you should return it to the shop as it may be a case of faulty batteries

Well that's what i thought...Same case with my old 650va ups .....I'm losing trust on any electronics on the local market....

The issue isn't about backup..When there is lite load on the pc i.e:browsing/watching movies etc it's fine ...But when the gpu is under load(say while I'm gaming) and there is a power loss my pc would completely shut off and restart(probably the ups not being able to output the power required)..Now I think other local ups's will be the same aswell and I bought it from ryans(unfortunately) ,I don't think they will be able to give a solution...Kinda sad now, it seems like a waste of money buying ups here even with a mediocre pc...

Tho flora is bringing apc ups but the price is really high 8k for 650va seems a bit too much.

Hope to see better products in the local market...These seem to be just cheap quality generic ups......

Thanks for the heads up...

[TRazerK]

Well that's what i thought...Same case with my old 650va ups .....I'm losing trust on any electronics on the local market....

The issue isn't about backup..When there is lite load on the pc i.e:browsing/watching movies etc it's fine ...But when the gpu is under load(say while I'm gaming) and there is a power loss my pc would completely shut off and restart(probably the ups not being able to output the power required)..Now I think other local ups's will be the same aswell and I bought it from ryans(unfortunately) ,I don't think they will be able to give a solution...Kinda sad now, it seems like a waste of money buying ups here even with a mediocre pc...

Tho flora is bringing apc ups but the price is really high 8k for 650va seems a bit too much.

Hope to see better products in the local market...These seem to be just cheap quality generic ups......

Thanks for the heads up...

Are you sure it's a problem with the ups? Have you checked without ups?

[Juboraz]

Are you sure it's a problem with the ups? Have you checked without ups?

Yeah...When there is power/electricity there is no issue..but when there is a power cut this occurs...

Ps:Forgot to mention above it only occurs during power outage.This does not happen when using on mains power from the wall.

[TRazerK]

Well then you have to check it with a higher wattage ups to see if the problem still persists. But yeah it is strange. You shouldn't need more than 800VA ups to back up a system where the GPU does not even require direct power from PSU

[Juboraz]

Weird to say the least...The warranty won't cover it I guess and this issue cannot be easily recreated on their computers (specially on ryan's infamous warranty support).

What's even weirder is that I have just ran my computer and game'd on it directly from the ups without any power from the wall(which shows the ups can actually handle the load).But when there is power loss in mid game/load situation the computer shuts down and restarts.

No I'm totally unsure of what the issue really is...

[minitt]

Weird to say the least...The warranty won't cover it I guess and this issue cannot be easily recreated on their computers (specially on ryan's infamous warranty support).

What's even weirder is that I have just ran my computer and game'd on it directly from the ups without any power from the wall(which shows the ups can actually handle the load).But when there is power loss in mid game/load situation the computer shuts down and restarts.

No I'm totally unsure of what the issue really is...

this is a very common issue. Without giving you too much technical details the simple solution would be get an UPS with twice the watt capacity of your PC. Meaning if you PC draw 300 watt make sure your UPS is rated at at least 600 watt ( 960VA)

[Juboraz]

this is a very common issue. Without giving you too much technical details the simple solution would be get an UPS with twice the watt capacity of your PC. Meaning if you PC draw 300 watt make sure your UPS is rated at at least 600 watt ( 960VA)

Ohh ..I thought 60% of the ups's VA can be considered as the output wattage.Now it seems I was wrong.
Probably should sell my ups now just after buying it ..I regret buying it :3 ....

Thanks for the heads up mate.

[minitt]

Ohh ..I thought 60% of the ups's VA can be considered as the output wattage.Now it seems I was wrong.
Probably should sell my ups now just after buying it ..I regret buying it :3 ....

Thanks for the heads up mate.

you do sound correct to me. For example 1000VA UPS will put out 600watt ( on paper)
In real life it's less than 600watt even with new battery.

[Fox Mulder]

What are your thoughts on the batteries we receive with UPS with ratings such as 800VA, 1000VA and 1200VA UPS' that are currently being sold in the market, @minitt ?

[Juboraz]

What are your thoughts on the batteries we receive with UPS with ratings such as 800VA, 1000VA and 1200VA UPS' that are currently being sold in the market, @minitt ?

I would also like to know about that as well @minitt brother...Especially about the quality of components used in these ups,it makes me really doubt about the quality of components used when a 800va ups can't hold my system that roughly consumes 300-350watts on full load...

They are even advertised with having built in voltage stablizer and surge protection which sounds kinda funny to me when they even fail to output the rated wattage properly.

[minitt]

What are your thoughts on the batteries we receive with UPS with ratings such as 800VA, 1000VA and 1200VA UPS' that are currently being sold in the market, @minitt ?

anything at or above 800VA is built on 24V DC bus. Meaning 2 batt in series.

What i I learned from my lengthy UPS experiment is most UPS sold by computer shops aren’t designed to handle gaming PC load which is drastically different than office PC.


The batteries that come with UPS usually not good and near impossible for end user to find out just by looking at the labels. There are few whole sale dealers in Nobabpur where you can buy recently imported batteries. If you want solid And long term solution I would say replace your Home IPS with IPS with built in UPS. The flooded lead acid batteries perform much better and get you most bang for your money.

The other option would be go online UPS route that has external battery terminal.

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I would also like to know about that as well @minitt brother...Especially about the quality of components used in these ups,it makes me really doubt about the quality of components used when a 800va ups can't hold my system that roughly consumes 300-350watts on full load...

They are even advertised with having built in voltage stablizer and surge protection which sounds kinda funny to me when they even fail to output the rated wattage properly.

voltage stabilizer does nothing when you loose electricity. When UPS switches to batt that module stays inactive until it sees input again. Volt stab only works during low/high voltage situation. Usually +- 10% when your input exceeds this range then it switches to batt. Rahima afrooz used to make decent UPS. Don’t know if they still make them. Micro was another local brand that used to make decent UPS. But I am talking about 6-7 years ago . If I ever buy another UPS it will be at least 3 times of Power supply maximum dynamic power draw.

If if you want to game for an hour on UPS. Online UPS or IPSwith built in ups is your only options.

[giant]

i have a PowerGuard 1200VA
every people recommends PowerGuard
i5 3470 with HD 7950

at first i used to get around or over 20minutes of CSGO gameplay!!!

BUT NOW after 10months, only about ~3minutes!!!!!!
and on Chrome Browser about ~10min!!!!
^my experience



and, what can or should i do?

[Fox Mulder]

You should never game using UPS battery.

[VANGUARD]

I have been using Micro 1500va long backup ups for almost 2 years now. Gives me solid 2hours+ backup while gaming. Uses Hamko lead acid tubular batteries. The whole setup cost me around 35k. But again, this is a long term investment which will serve you like 4-5 years.

[minitt]

You should never game using UPS battery.

Exactly. The UPS that most ppl buy, they are designed to hold the load long enough to shutdown the PC.

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I have been using Micro 1500va long backup ups for almost 2 years now. Gives me solid 2hours+ backup while gaming. Uses Hamko lead acid tubular batteries. The whole setup cost me around 35k. But again, this is a long term investment which will serve you like 4-5 years.

That looks like proper way of doing it. Assuming your unit has enough charging capacity to charge those massive batteries. I remember hamko was one of the better brands for batteries.