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    Arrow Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    YES, read it well. it is GPU, not CPU.

    FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear.
    Yeah, Intel won the PS4 GPU, no shock considering how much they needed a console win to get people coding for Larrabee. They can either convince companies to put in a code path for the chip in Big Budget Mediocre Sequel 7: Vengeance of the Farmland Creatures by sending people with wads of money and begging, or get a console win. They got a console win, and it was the right way to go.
    Some people hanging around the Sony booth at CES were nice enough to let us in on the scoop. It seems Nvidia has proverbially bent Sony over like they did MS on the XBox, and are not really welcome there any more. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys, either way, but hardly an unexpected outcome.
    Sony is looking pretty desperate nowadays with a multi-billion dollar loss in 2008, and more pain on the way for 2009. The PS3 has utterly failed in the market, and there was a lot of talk about whether or not there was going to be a PS4 at all. Sony needed a reliable partner with deep pockets which would actually be there in 2012 to fund this exercise in DRM, and it found one in Intel. Damn good choice really.
    The nice Sony engineering lady at CES told us that Intel essentially bought the win, a theoretically good architecture, no imminent threats of going bust, and not being hated by Sony all contributed too. With a couple of deliverables satisfied, the PS4 GPU belongs to Intel. No word if this is going to be the entire architecture, CPU as well, or not. That, from what we are told, is not final yet.
    Moving on to the the XBox3 GPU, also due in 2012, we hear strong rumors (but have not confirmed yet) that it is an ATI design. Given the close ties between ATI and MS over DirectX, the bad blood between Nvidia and MS over the grand Nvidia DX10 neutering, plus memories of the XBox1, this is not a surprise either. The bed was made for short-term profits years ago, time to lie in it.
    That brings us to the Wii2, also due around the same time. Given that the ArtX / ATI guys have won about every Nintendo GPU since they went 3D, this one appears to be a no-brainer. If you take into account that it will likely be evolutionary, it is almost assuredly an ATI win as well, but we haven't confirmed it either way.
    So in the end, you have Intel with one GPU confirmed, Larrabee, and ATI with another almost totally confirmed. The third is still unknown but likely will be ATI as well. Notice there is no Nvidia in this equation.
    That will hamstring the egos in green badly soon, forcing them to spend a lot more on developer relations and tools if they can't claw back a console win. The games for 2012 start coding in a year, so the effects will be leading, not trailing for them.
    The only real way for them to get a win at this point is to buy it, and they 1) don't have any money. 2) are bidding against someone who has money 3) are bidding against someone who they picked a stupid public fight with and 4) are hated by the two companies that make the consoles they target. This brilliant management strategy combines to mean they are locked out, if they survive that long.
    Next next gen consoles also will likely have a CPU which we know nothing about. That said, given that Intel will basically be designing large swathes of the PS4, it would seem to be leaning toward x86. Given that, and MS's inclination toward x86 software, that would seem a natural path for them to follow as well, if for no other reason than to protect the living room from the ARM scourge running Linux.
    With that, we have the first hard info on the next next generation gaming boxes. Given silicon time scales, three years out means work starts about now. ATI and Intel have work to do, but it should be very interesting when all things are done, a radical shift towards the PC of a magnitude not seen since the Playstation replaced cartridges with CDs. µ

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    a link would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    I Thought PS4 wont be coming ... the scene changed i guess :S .. That Means The Graphics Card will be made by Intel ? lol ..

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    Yup the new Larabee(tm) concept.Gonna kick nvidia and atis ¤¤¤! They say that they've been away from the gpu bussiness far enough!Seriously making decent gpus ought to be easy for them as the are used to making Microprocesors using technologys upto 45nm.Whilst on other hand Nvidia has 55nm.Dunno about ati.But then again the processor and the gpu has their differences in the technology implemented!

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by Wintereise View Post
    Yup the new Larabee(tm) concept.Gonna kick nvidia and atis ¤¤¤! They say that they've been away from the gpu bussiness far enough!Seriously making decent gpus ought to be easy for them as the are used to making Microprocesors using technologys upto 45nm.Whilst on other hand Nvidia has 55nm.Dunno about ati.But then again the processor and the gpu has their differences in the technology implemented!
    ATi is ahead of nVidia in terms of nanometer.
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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    Dunno about ati.Never had a decent ati card in my life.the best i got was a 9800pro

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    You guys might wanna check this out - http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...rumours-525563

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    ok seriously offtopic:
    Why are the adds for viagra pills everywhere I go?I even had them on fanfiction
    Damn this crap!

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    I personally don't think we're going to see a new console very soon, Say 5 years. Some minor refresh maybe but not a full new console. Don't forget that US still haven't recovered from the bad economy. Designing and bringing a new console requires a lot lot of money. Also it takes a lot more time and investment to make the console well established in the market. Actually console makers have started to make money from their investment very recently and they're not going to screw their installed base anytime soon until they've got their investment back.

    The only console that may be going to see major refresh is WII. A WII HD is very possible. It will be fully compatible with GC and WII for all peripherals and software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzoor View Post
    I personally don't think we're going to see a new console very soon, Say 5 years. Some minor refresh maybe but not a full new console. Don't forget that US still haven't recovered from the bad economy. Designing and bringing a new console requires a lot lot of money. Also it takes a lot more time and investment to make the console well established in the market. Actually console makers have started to make money from their investment very recently and they're not going to screw their installed base anytime soon until they've got their investment back.

    The only console that may be going to see major refresh is WII. A WII HD is very possible. It will be fully compatible with GC and WII for all peripherals and software.
    Yes ur right. Cause even when a game for a console is comming out we see pics nd news all over da net atleast 2years before da release, talking about a console!! Nd another thing is they are never going to dare bring out another console if MS does not bring out another xbox 360. Its all about competition. Nd da last thing dat comes to my brain is dat the both console are making motion controller nd they r going to market it at da end of thus year i guess...so if they bring out a console very soon den wat r we going to do with them, so they have to give us some kick ¤¤¤ motion games 1st den. So yes 4-5years i suspect.

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    I'm not expecting any PS4 in the near future... somewhere SONY said 10 years about PS3 I guess .. (well.. I don't think it will take THAT much time actually ) ..

    But a new Xbox will come out soon I think ... didn't MS say that they are gonna release a new one in 2011? :S

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    orre khaise ... 1 year por thread active

    however the source article is totally anti console ....... ami nijeo pc gamer but ai article ta akhon pore hashi paitese ..... coz it changed so much in 1 year.

    ps3 is actually making profits now due to lower cost of production and if it goes untill 2015 like this, then it is good for sony. The cost of making ps3 is $240 as of 2009 data http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175396. Current market price is $300.

    Ken Kutaragi, the father of PS3, said that PS3 would last a decade. Dat means we will see a new console in around 2015 at earliest.

    Also check this.

    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/991/991485p1.html.

    http://beefjack.com/news/no-new-xbox-until-2015/

    Well even Microsoft officials also has confirmed Xbox 360 will last 10 years, given the implementation of Project Natal at mid life.

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    Default Re: Intel will design PlayStation 4 GPU

    the PS3 and PS4 can co-exist. So even if PS4 is released in 2012, the PS3 won't lose its support. The PS2 hasn't now, why should the PS3.

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