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    Arrow 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    viper.ca (Omni)
    CvP (Storm)
    Xromeo (Axe)
    B_HOO_T (Abaddon)
    sresTHo (Lich)


    vs

    Shade_E()N (Necrolyte)
    [AoV]ang3lized (Queen of Pain)
    Legion|Stent (Spiritbreaker)
    [WeRewOLF] (Lina)
    SP|MAST3R[E] (Rogue Knight)



    me not so pro with this hero. my first game with storm.
    but you can see the build.

    boots and bloodstone. that's it.

    dont mind the damage return. just made it to see the new item :closedeyes:

    http://banglagamer.com/forums/downlo...do=file&id=158
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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    heh ... see my Storm http://banglagamer.com/forums/f103/d...by-sad1d-t3561 , played wid it when DotA 6.58 just released! more gend den u!




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    Quote Originally Posted by P1n!c5-Sad1d View Post
    heh ... see my Storm http://banglagamer.com/forums/f103/d...by-sad1d-t3561 , played wid it when DotA 6.58 just released! more gend den u!
    really imba replay.

    started as 4v4, then after a few mins 3v4, then 3v3 @40min. later god knows.
    also, ifr.ko was in your opponent with tree. he plays ridiculously bad with this
    hero compared to his usual play level.

    and you played an average newbie (not noob) storm, both in style and item build.
    your remnant usage was very poor. your main focus was on using overload
    like the previous storm (which is entirely invalid for new storm).

    it also appears you leveled up overpower instead of vortex..OMFG!!!11111ONE111

    also you missed a LOT of kills that was possible if you played properly.


    here's some short tips on how to play:

    1. level up order
      • remnant
      • overload
      • vortex
      • remnant
      • remnant
      • rofl!
      • remnant
      • vortex
      • vortex
      • vortex
      • max overload, take stats
      • take rofl if you think you need it
    2. items:
      • anything basic (circlets, branches, tangos, clarity)
      • boots
      • two bracers if you wish
      • bloodstone ASAP
      • linken/guinsoo/orchid/shiva depending on opponents/situation
      • boots of travel when you can
    3. play style: see my replay. note how i use remnant/vortex/rofl combo.
      it can be better. if i cud time remnant while ROFLing.
      need to practice that in single player first. hard to do in my first game :closedeyes:



    PS: if you are wondering what ROFL is...it is storm's new ultimate's pet name...Rolling On Floor Lightning!!!!!
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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    hohoho , looks like sm1 in da house is a little agressive lol! , look into my thread

    IT SAYS dat i played da whole game wid lag and it was my first time




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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Quote Originally Posted by P1n!c5-Sad1d View Post
    hohoho , looks like sm1 in da house is a little agressive lol! , look into my thread

    IT SAYS dat i played da whole game wid lag and it was my first time
    it was my first time too :/

    anyways, i needed to post this anyways. ppl need to learn to play the new storm.
    most still tried to make him a carry. he has absolutely NO POTENTIAL to be
    a carry whatsoever. this is entirely a new hero..a GANKER+CHASER. nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    really imba replay.

    started as 4v4, then after a few mins 3v4, then 3v3 @40min. later god knows.
    also, ifr.ko was in your opponent with tree. he plays ridiculously bad with this
    hero compared to his usual play level.

    and you played an average newbie (not noob) storm, both in style and item build.
    your remnant usage was very poor. your main focus was on using overload
    like the previous storm (which is entirely invalid for new storm).

    it also appears you leveled up overpower instead of vortex..OMFG!!!11111ONE111

    also you missed a LOT of kills that was possible if you played properly.


    here's some short tips on how to play:

    1. level up order
      • remnant
      • overload
      • vortex
      • remnant
      • remnant
      • rofl!
      • remnant
      • vortex
      • vortex
      • vortex
      • max overload, take stats
      • take rofl if you think you need it

    2. items:
      • anything basic (circlets, branches, tangos, clarity)
      • boots
      • two bracers if you wish
      • bloodstone ASAP
      • linken/guinsoo/orchid/shiva depending on opponents/situation
      • boots of travel when you can

    3. play style: see my replay. note how i use remnant/vortex/rofl combo.
      it can be better. if i cud time remnant while ROFLing.
      need to practice that in single player first. hard to do in my first game :closedeyes:



    PS: if you are wondering what ROFL is...it is storm's new ultimate's pet name...Rolling On Floor Lightning!!!!!
    Yo man.. i needed that.

    Its just [EB]. Not Elite B[a]stard or anything like that.

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Quote Originally Posted by P1n!c5-Sad1d View Post
    hohoho , looks like sm1 in da house is a little agressive lol! , look into my thread

    IT SAYS dat i played da whole game wid lag and it was my first time
    So why post your replay url in someone else's replay thread?? Try showing some decency once in a while.
    Click here to find out how a noob plays the Anti Mage

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    CvP, played awesome and we were actually countered the whole game. Our bottom lane qop and necrolyte kept dying every 30 seconds where Mr. Angelized was afk till the opponents were lvl 3. CvP had his opponent SB as mid solo Legbion. Later on CvP showed some imba skills both initiates and fleeing off. TOTAL IMBA PERFORMANCE FROM CHEE BHEE PEE. GOOD JOB.


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    most ridiculous hero i've seen since the old spectre when haunt/reality meant every opponent died cuz illusions also had damage return.

    this hero cant be ganked- period.
    no one can run away from this hero- free black hole and you can even attack while it works...thats does stupid

    expecting a fast nerf

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Storm is really strong in this patch !!

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Quote Originally Posted by Legion|Stent View Post
    most ridiculous hero i've seen since the old spectre when haunt/reality meant every opponent died cuz illusions also had damage return.

    this hero cant be ganked- period.
    no one can run away from this hero- free black hole and you can even attack while it works...thats does stupid

    expecting a fast nerf
    every time a new hero is added (Clock/Kunkka/Seer/Husker and all others [except wind runner]),
    a lot of ppl flooded forums with QQ threads.

    this is not the case for Storm. because playing him good, is REALLY hard.


    anyways, ganking a magina/qop/void/puck is not very must much easier than storm.

    vortex is the ONLY late game good spell storm has. it is not blackhole.
    the pull area is too small, not AOE also. it is, basically, a 2.5 sec stun (at level 4).

    storm is a range hero that needs to stay in melee range
    so any disabler counters storm. also mana burners
    like NA/KotL/Lion just rapes this hero.


    im not saying that storm is an avrg hero. storm is good. really good.
    but DK/Tree/Mercurial/Riki/Zeus/Chen etc are still FAR too strong than storm.

    overall storm is another awesome ganker and lategame chaser.
    he has absolutely no lategame DPS potential.
    he lacks ability to do much in team battle/AOE. he's really strong when it comes 1v1 or ganking
    a lone hero.


    he will obviously tweaked like all other new heroes.
    i can predict that it will only add
    - some longer cooldown time to remnant (5 secs prolly)
    - increase vortex cooldown a little (too much increase = new clockwreck : no league value)
    - a little stats tweak
    Last edited by CvP; January 16th, 2009 at 04:02.
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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    any kind of open criticism about new heroes appear to sound like 'qq' but only someone with his head in his ¤¤¤ would disagree that

    1) cw was not imba before the nerf (imba rocket damage and imba str gain/hookshot cd/ battery cd)
    2) pirate was not the biggest mistake made by beta testers

    needlesstosay both of the above were heavily nerfed because they were not balanced heroes.

    no one cried about ds or husk. in all of high level league forums people reached some kind of consensus that despite being strong (ds stron jungle farmer and great anti push hero, and huskar is a pain in the ¤¤¤ to face in a lane without support) heroes, dk or husk were balanced



    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    every time a new hero is added (Clock/Kunkka/Seer/Husker and all others [except wind runner]),
    a lot of ppl flooded forums with QQ threads.

    this is not the case for Storm. because playing him good, is REALLY hard.


    anyways, ganking a magina/qop/void/puck is not very must easier than storm.

    vortex is the ONLY late game good spell storm has. it is not blackhole.
    the pull area is too small, not AOE also. it is, basically, a 2.5 sec stun (at level 4).

    storm is a range hero that needs to stay in melee range
    so any disabler counters storm. also mana burners
    like NA/KotL/Lion just rapes this hero.


    im not saying that storm is an avrg hero. storm is good. really good.
    but DK/Tree/Mercurial/Riki/Zeus/Chen etc are still FAR too strong than storm.

    overall storm is another awesome ganker and lategame chaser.
    he has absolutely no lategame DPS potential.
    he lacks ability to do much in team battle/AOE. he's really strong when it comes 1v1 or ganking
    a lone hero.


    he will obviously tweaked like all other new heroes.
    i can predict that it will only add
    - some longer cooldown time to remnant (5 secs prolly)
    - increase vortex cooldown a little (too much increase = new clockwreck : no league value)
    - a little stats tweak
    Last edited by Legion|Stent; January 16th, 2009 at 00:45.

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    The main problem I see with this hero is how to lane him...
    Click here to find out how a noob plays the Anti Mage

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Also sami likes to play this hero


    cvp BD room breast player !!!


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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    SaMy420 loves playing with new heroes. =P. I remember, when clockwork came out, he's only use that hero. =\\
    Australian-I feel for ya bro gaming on a piece of crap you should be twice as good at any game you play. Thats really really a scary thought. Part of me does not want you to get a new rig.

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Quote Originally Posted by <nfs>SinEater View Post
    The main problem I see with this hero is how to lane him...
    you mean laning against Storm Panda?
    it is REALLY easy. ANY rango hero can easily range against this hero.
    and farm well also. because storm lacks high base damage and the
    attack animation isn't THAT great.



    and about storm's imbaness, here's a quote from some where:
    Did you know that a 1300 distance(about .5 sec travel time for lv 3 ult, and just slightly above AM/QoP's blink range) require 215 mana + 20% of your max mana

    Which for a 2000 max mana Raijin that's 615 mana, with 3000 max mana that's 815 mana, either way just using the spell alone he can't use it more than 4 times consecutively

    sure he can regen, but at lv 16 with a 5 charge stone regen 10 mana a sec, assuming he's using bloodstone + orchid + tread at this point, his base regen is about 18 mana/sec

    so it'll take him at least 20 second to regen enough mana to 'blink' that far, a 4 times the 'cooldown' of QoP/AM's blinks

    and for those who said he can BL in, throw out spells, BL out:
    take the 'blink' BL above, you have
    208 + 75(overload) dmg from 1300 distance BL,
    260 remnant + 75
    75 from vortex overload
    260+75 from remnant that should now be done cd
    BL away
    but this take 4 second before he flies away(Remnant cd)

    so Storm just spend 300 + 430 + 40% of his mana pool to do: 1028 spell dmg + 4 normal hits on one target, and some more if your team love to hug each other very closely

    a QoP(who has 6.2 overall stat gain while Storm have 5.9) can blink in and unleash her spell on 1 poor victim and blink away within the same period of time for:
    mana: 60 * 2 for blink, 140 for SS, 140 for scream, 500 for Sonic = 900 mana
    damage(assuming no Agha...): 600 + 300 + 350 + whatever hits she does while blink is on cd = 1250 dmg + a few hits

    Reminder: QoP need 12 mana/sec regen to blink every 5 sec, Storm will needs many times that number to use his BL to 'blink' for the same distance every 5 sec
    also, ice refused to add any cooldown to his ultimate as this hero is already too fragile.
    i think he wont be nerfed that much IF he is nerfed at all.
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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    ANY rango hero can easily range against this hero.
    and farm well also. because storm lacks high base damage and the
    attack animation isn't THAT great.

    You are wrong CVP it is really easy last hitting with this hero and bet any decent last hitter would agree with this.
    BTW cvp I think u are a poor last hitter

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    dont be a stupid. his base damage isn't that high, his as animation isn't THAT good..

    it isn't bad either..but it isn't better than razor, that i can say.
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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    dont be a stupid. his base damage isn't that high, his as animation isn't THAT good..

    it isn't bad either..but it isn't better than razor, that i can say.
    Hehehe
    Rzr atttack animation is the best most probably .
    You can leave that hero by pressing on the ground and you will end up chatting with friends and then when you look back at your monitor you realize all those creeps were killed by you . LOL

    it has a pretty good attack animation not only pretty good it is gud .

    BTW,
    Where do u see the stupidness ?

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    Default Re: 5v5, Garena BD Room, nice game, NEW STORM showdown!

    this is not that old storm. his attack point is longer now.
    oh wait! you probably don't even understand what attack point is.
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