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    Default Buying a new pc, need advise

    Ok guys, I am buying a new pc soon and am really confused about something.........i will be buying these three things from bangkok and basically have the following options---

    1) Core 2 Quad q9550
    Gigabyte G31M S2L
    HIS/Powercolor/Sapphire HD4850 512MB

    2) Core 2 Quad q6600
    Gigabyte EP43 DS3L
    HIS/Powercolor/Sapphire HD4870 512MB

    3) Core 2 Duo E7300(I will overclock)
    Gigabyte EP45 UD3LR
    HIS/Powercolor/Sapphire HD4870 1GB

    The above 3 options cost approximately the same.Any advise on which one i should be going for???The rest of the parts(Ram,hdd,psu,etc.) I'll be getting from here.

    thnx in advance!!!

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    go for either 1st one of 2nd ....... i wud preder da 2nd one .......

    1. First has really gud processor but graphics card is comparingly poor to the processor.

    2. 2nd one has gud gpu but comparingly a slower processor.

    3. 3rd one has very weak processor compared to the gpu used.

    i think it is best to combine Q9550 with HD 4870 512MB, since u dont have dat option, go for 2nd one. Why ? coz u can overclock ur processor and increase ur speed to Q9550 levels ........

    and u need to balance things ....... like u shud not use suppose Ati HD 4600 series with Q9550 processor ....... nor shud u combine E7300 wid Nvidia GTX265 ......... either game performance is going to be cpu limited or gpu limited; u might have an underused gpu or cpu if u dont balance things .........

    I dont know, if i were u, i wud have gone for the 2nd one.
    Last edited by [email protected]; December 22nd, 2008 at 00:23.

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    LOLz the 3rd one isnt a weak processor!! It may b weak If u compare the number of cores, but for gaming r8 now the E7300 is a better option. Its also a 45nm core.

    Performance wise the 45nm core are ~5-10% better than a 65nm core at the same clock speed.

    Q6600 is a 65nm

    If u r buying the PC for gaming.. then 3rd option is the way to go! 45nm cores r better overclockers too.

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    go for the 2nd setup..... u can overclock that too to get more power...

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    ok i wouldnt choose one from above but i'd like to share some experience.

    *quad cores are not fully utilized in all the games that we play today. Basically, for gaming, dual core is good enough.
    And guess what, it saves a lot of greens aswell. Unless you are planning to do some heavy 3d rendering / sound fx engineering / video editing quad core would simply a waste of money.

    montherboard - > g31? no no no no no! P series is a must. you see, G series would have built in / on board memory which would simply be a waste as you will be buying a 4870. so basically G series kena bokami hobe.

    ar obvioiusly.. parle 4870 hd kine felo.. sapphire e nao.
    bidesh theke ante parle you should go for evga'r nvidia'r GTX series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omi_1080 View Post

    3) Core 2 Duo E7300(I will overclock)
    Gigabyte EP45 UD3LR
    HIS/Powercolor/Sapphire HD4870 1GB

    For gaming i will go for setup 3 for 2 plus point(mobo+1Gb 4870).
    Quad cores are valueless for me for daily pc use.
    E7300 will overclock more + newer instruction set +more performance per clock + 50~60watt less power consumption + much lower load temp.
    Last edited by Muradd9; December 22nd, 2008 at 12:19. Reason: added information

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    Quad cores are valueless for me for daily pc use.
    *quad cores are not fully utilized in all the games that we play today. Basically, for gaming, dual core is good enough.
    And guess what, it saves a lot of greens aswell. Unless you are planning to do some heavy 3d rendering / sound fx engineering / video editing quad core would simply a waste of money.
    Well said

    BTW E7000 series have 3 mb cache.. He should get a E8000 series CPU cuz those have 6 MB cache.. and games usually run better on CPUs that have more cache.

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    Thanks a lot for the inputs brothers!!!!!!!!well, option 1 is out of my list now as q9550 is an overkill for me. Its gonna be either the 2nd or the 3rd.

    the only point of confusion lies now in whether to get a dual or quad core.I understand that dual cores are better used in today's games, takes less power and produces less heat,but what about the future??It would be sad to buy a dual core now only to find that the next big title is a quad core optimized. Would a dual core seriously limit my performance in the future(like 2/2.5 years)??upgrading within the next 1.5 to 2 years is not an option for me...................so i've got to utilize my budget to the fullest right now.


    Quote Originally Posted by TE.CREATOR View Post
    ar obvioiusly.. parle 4870 hd kine felo.. sapphire e nao.
    bidesh theke ante parle you should go for evga'r nvidia'r GTX series.
    gtx 260 216 core is more expensive than the hd 4870 1gb and crosses my budget.........

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    The Q6600 has 4mb * 2 = 8MB cache total
    Its basically two dual core glued together. As intels L2 cache are dynamic, a single core of Q6600 has a total of 4MB L2 cache.
    The E7300's single core has acess to 3MB of L2 cache.

    Clock of Clock the E7300 has an advantage in performance as its 45nm tweaked core, but it also has less cache per core which impact game performance.

    So the E7300 and Q6600 (it has more cache per core) will have almost same performance in Games when single core is compared.

    You can overclock Q6600 to E7300 levels to get exactly the same performance. So better get the Q6600 if you wont upgrade in the near future.

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    From next year new game titles will start using multi-core & will require more processing power then the games uses now a days... & new softs too...

    so if u r buying the pc for gaming & daily bases use u should buy a quad core & a 4870(1GB)... if u budget is low then get a p35 instead of a p43 board...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    LOLz the 3rd one isnt a weak processor!! It may b weak If u compare the number of cores, but for gaming r8 now the E7300 is a better option. Its also a 45nm core.

    Performance wise the 45nm core are ~5-10% better than a 65nm core at the same clock speed.

    Q6600 is a 65nm

    If u r buying the PC for gaming.. then 3rd option is the way to go! 45nm cores r better overclockers too.
    u want to combine e7300 wid HD 4870 1GB ???? sure go ahead ...... but do u think u can get maximum utilization of ur gpu ??????? i mean aita ki bolla bhai ....... e7300 oi fps dewar khomotai thakbe na .......

    i bet he will get lower fps than a computer dat has Q9550 and HD 4850 512 MB ......

    post da same response in tech websites such as tomshardware.com ...... even they will disagree ...... even try ordering a custom brand pc like alienware or velocity or dell xps with 4870 1GB ........ u wont even have an option to get e7300 with it ........

    r gaming to multicore is already the future ........ Intel core i7 and AMD phenoms are all quad core processors .......

    dual core is history now ...... akhon dual core will become like celeron processors next year .......... r quad core ke bolse gaming e utilize hoy na ........ games like crysis have multicore support (not only dual core; but multicore)

    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    For gaming i will go for setup 3 for 2 plus point(mobo+1Gb 4870).
    Quad cores are valueless for me for daily pc use.
    E7300 will overclock more + newer instruction set +more performance per clock + 50~60watt less power consumption + much lower load temp.
    http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/dis..._12.html#sect0

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...6850-benchmark

    Read this:

    E6850 (3GHz) with 4MB L2 cache 45nm, 1333MHz FSB vs Q6600 (2.4GHz) 8MB L2 cache 65nm with 1066MHz FSB


    According to our tests and numerous overclockers’ reports online, quad-core Core 2 Quad Q6600 processors can overclock up to 3.6GHz with proper air-cooling. In this case they can perform better than Core 2 Duo CPUs overclocked to their maximum. Moreover, we see this tendency even in those applications that are not optimized for multi-core processors and that are getting fewer day by day.



    As we saw there are very few tasks left, where overclocked quad-core processors cannot outperform overclocked dual-core CPUs. They defeat their rivals not only thanks to twice as many computational cores, but also thanks to twice as large L2 cache.


    So, we think Core 2 Quad Q6600 seems to be a much more attractive offering these days than Core 2 Duo E6850.


    However, those computer users who do not want to mess with processor overclocking may think differently. In this case Core 2 Duo E6850 with 25% higher clock speed performs better in a lot of applications, including games. Moreover, it is also more economical. As a result, the most optimal choice for a system working at nominal speeds would depends a lot on the type of tasks it is intended for.



    Nevertheless, we shouldn’t forget that most upcoming applications and games are being designed with multi-threading in mind. That is why Core 2 Quad Q6600 may be a more promising solution even if used in its nominal mode.

    I bet E6850 costs more than Q6600 in Bangladesh ..........

    so brother go wid setup 2 ...... Q6600 with Ati Hd 4850 or 4870 .........
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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    u want to combine e7300 wid HD 4870 1GB ???? sure go ahead ...... but do u think u can get maximum utilization of ur gpu ??????? i mean aita ki bolla bhai ....... e7300 oi fps dewar khomotai thakbe na .......
    System Builder Marathon: $625 Gaming PC @TomsHardware

    They r using Pentium dual core E5200(2MB L2 without new instructions set ) with HD4850.
    overclocked e7300(new instructions set + 3 MB L2) can utilize Hd HD4870 and costs much less for omi_1080.

    System Builder Marathon: $1,250 Enthusiast PC : System Builder Marathon: The Enthusiast's System.

    And they r using E8500 (Dual core) for HD4870 X2.


    Q6600 is better.
    But option no.3 e7300(overclocked)+HD4870 1GB) is better than option no.2 q6600+4870 512MB.
    There are only 3 option.
    I will only suggest option 2 or 1 if the system is for professional CAD or Video editing.
    Q6600+ HD4870 1GB will be better than the 3 option.


    @ [email protected] the link u gave us is comparing processor (Which one is better ).Just see the Game bench .

    They r using 1024*768! and default setting.
    My question is r we going to play at 1024*[email protected] med or low setting without AA/AF(which is default) with a Hd 4870 ?

    The answer is clearly no.

    Very high or High setting and @ at least 1280*1024 or 1680*1050 resolution for gaming.

    Second question; Which requirement is increasing (for gaming)Gpu or Cpu processing power?
    Look behind 1 year ago and now and then think future. and give me the answer.

    I think Gpu requirement is most important.

    Now Look at this Tomshardware review and its my final answer.

    Core2X VS Core2QX vS [email protected] And HD 4850,4870,4870CF, GTX 260,280,SLI ,9800GX2 gaming



    and Find out which one is bottlenecked (CPU or GPU).



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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    u want to combine e7300 wid HD 4870 1GB ???? sure go ahead ...... but do u think u can get maximum utilization of ur gpu ??????? i mean aita ki bolla bhai ....... e7300 oi fps dewar khomotai thakbe na .......

    i bet he will get lower fps than a computer dat has Q9550 and HD 4850 512 MB ......

    post da same response in tech websites such as tomshardware.com ...... even they will disagree ...... even try ordering a custom brand pc like alienware or velocity or dell xps with 4870 1GB ........ u wont even have an option to get e7300 with it ........

    r gaming to multicore is already the future ........ Intel core i7 and AMD phenoms are all quad core processors .......

    dual core is history now ...... akhon dual core will become like celeron processors next year .......... r quad core ke bolse gaming e utilize hoy na ........ games like crysis have multicore support (not only dual core; but multicore)
    From where did Q9550 pop in.
    It was a comparison between Q6600 and E7300.

    A. E7300 with 4870 1GB
    Vs
    B. Q6600 with 4870 512GB

    Which system will win most of the current game benhmarks with all game detail set to very high and very high resolution? (It wont win on games optimised for multi cores. crisis & world in conflict)

    Its A. E7300 with 4870 1 GB


    The P43 supports PCI-E 2.0 while G31 Doesnt. It will result in a performance drop of 1-2% in some games if u switch to G31.

    If you aint going to upgrade then Q6600 is a better option, but let me tell u sth.
    Why do motherboards have upgradeable CPU sockets? to upgrade it r8.. so why not use it?

    Get a E5200 with 4850 X2 1GB (overclock the CPU to 3.6Ghz or more, increasing the voltage, with ease. Its a cheap processor anyway so U shouldnt worry about burning it LOLz)
    Its better than all the options above. & upgrade to Quad core after a year or 2 when U can get those in dirt cheap prices... as the new thing is Core i7!


    And CPU prices in BD are OK.. U should rather get a PSU. PSU are still expenive in BD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    System Builder Marathon: $625 Gaming PC @TomsHardware

    They r using Pentium dual core E5200(2MB L2 without new instructions set ) with HD4850.
    overclocked e7300(new instructions set + 3 MB L2) can utilize Hd HD4870 and costs much less for omi_1080.

    System Builder Marathon: $1,250 Enthusiast PC : System Builder Marathon: The Enthusiast's System.

    And they r using E8500 (Dual core) for HD4870 X2.


    Q6600 is better.
    But option no.3 e7300(overclocked)+HD4870 1GB) is better than option no.2 q6600+4870 512MB.
    There are only 3 option.
    I will only suggest option 2 or 1 if the system is for professional CAD or Video editing.
    Q6600+ HD4870 1GB will be better than the 3 option.


    @ [email protected] the link u gave us is comparing processor (Which one is better ).Just see the Game bench .

    They r using 1024*768! and default setting.
    My question is r we going to play at 1024*[email protected] med or low setting without AA/AF(which is default) with a Hd 4870 ?

    The answer is clearly no.

    Very high or High setting and @ at least 1280*1024 or 1680*1050 resolution for gaming.

    Second question; Which requirement is increasing (for gaming)Gpu or Cpu processing power?
    Look behind 1 year ago and now and then think future. and give me the answer.

    I think Gpu requirement is most important.

    Now Look at this Tomshardware review and its my final answer.

    Core2X VS Core2QX vS [email protected] And HD 4850,4870,4870CF, GTX 260,280,SLI ,9800GX2 gaming



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    u want to say at 1024x768, the overclocked quad core outran the overclocked dual core ....... and it will run slower in 1280x1024 or1680x1080 with the same hardware ????????

    the higher resolution u go up, the higher stress will fall on both ur gpu and cpu .......

    and ami tomar link thekei quote kori .........

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...2,2073-17.html

    Crysis benchmark .......

    It’s nice to see that the Radeon HD 4870 512 still shows its full performance even with CrossFire, whereas Nvidia runs into problems with its 512 MB (9800 GX2, 9800 GTX+) and anti-aliasing. The power of the overclocked quad-core CPU is utilized very well by all of the benchmarked cards.

    World in Conflict benchmark ......

    With anti-aliasing activated, the Radeon HD 4870 X2 can easily beat Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 260 and GTX 280. But when using SLI, the GTX 280 and GTX 260 take the lead. The dual-chip GeForce 9800 GX2 responds extremely well to the overclocked quad-core CPU

    Call of duty 4 benchmark .......
    A faster CPU with more overclocking potential could certainly squeeze more 3D power from them. Many of our tested boards benefit from the overclocked quad-core CPU, converting the better baseline performance into more 3D performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    From where did Q9550 pop in.
    It was a comparison between Q6600 and E7300.

    A. E7300 with 4870 1GB
    Vs
    B. Q6600 with 4860 512GB


    Which system will win all the current game benhmarks with all game detail set to very high and very high resolution?

    Its A. E7300 with 4870 1 GB


    The P43 supports PCI-E 2.0 while G31 Doesnt. It will result in a performance drop of 1-2% in some games if u switch to G31.

    If you aint going to upgrade then Q6600 is a better option, but let me tell u sth.
    Why do motherboards have upgradeable CPU sockets? to upgrade it r8.. so why not use it?

    Get a E5200 with 4850 X2 1GB (overclock the CPU to 3.6Ghz or more, increasing the voltage, with ease. Its a cheap processor anyway so U shouldnt worry about burning it LOLz)
    Its better than all the options above. & upgrade to Quad core after a year or 2 when U can get those in dirt cheap prices... as the new thing is Core i7!


    And CPU prices in BD are OK.. U should rather get a PSU. PSU are still expenive in BD.
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ........

    Option 2 rig had Radeon 4870 512MB, not Radeon 4850 512MB ....... so major difference between option 2 and 3 was the cpu ...... not gpu ..........

    So it is like

    Q6600 with Radeon 4870 512MB (Not Radeon HD 4860 512GB as u typed)
    vs
    E7300 with Radeon 4870 1 GB

    Ur Upgrade suggestion abt cpu is very very bad .......... did u know Core i7 uses new sockets and DDR-3 ram ?????? so how the hell will he upgrade from e5200 to core i7 after 2 years ?????


    Quote Originally Posted by omi_1080 View Post
    Thanks a lot for the inputs brothers!!!!!!!!well, option 1 is out of my list now as q9550 is an overkill for me. Its gonna be either the 2nd or the 3rd.

    the only point of confusion lies now in whether to get a dual or quad core.I understand that dual cores are better used in today's games, takes less power and produces less heat,but what about the future??It would be sad to buy a dual core now only to find that the next big title is a quad core optimized. Would a dual core seriously limit my performance in the future(like 2/2.5 years)??upgrading within the next 1.5 to 2 years is not an option for me...................so i've got to utilize my budget to the fullest right now.




    gtx 260 216 core is more expensive than the hd 4870 1gb and crosses my budget.........
    bhai ami onek links disi ....... r highlight kore disi ...... shob khanei quad core suggested ........ and since u wont be upgrading ......... quad core is da way to go ......... amnei Core i7 and phenom ber hoye gese ........ they are all quad cores (even AMD 8 cores are coming next year ) .......... 2009 theke only budget computers can buy dual core ......... if u want mid range or high end, u have to go quad core MINIMUM .......... AMD roadmap e bolei dise ora r dual core release korbe na for desktop .........
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    LOL.. I did not tell him to upgrade to Core i7 after 2 years. I said Quad core. Get a Q9XXX after it gets cheap after 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    u want to say at 1024x768, the overclocked quad core outran the overclocked dual core ....... and it will run slower in 1280x1024 or1680x1080 with the same hardware ????????
    Where did i mention at 1024x768, the overclocked quad core outran the overclocked dual core ....... and it will run slower in 1280x1024 or1680x1080 with the same hardware?
    My point is E7300(overclocked) has enough power to run HD4870 and omi_1080 has limited budget .

    Q6600 is better but my point is e7300(overclocked)+4870 1GB+P45 is better than q6600+4870 512MB+p43.


    Here they mean that even with 512MB ram HD4870 works well in single & crossfire mode where Nvidia runs into problems with its 512 MB Ram (9800 GX2, 9800 GTX+).


    `The power of the overclocked quad-core CPU is utilized very well by all of the benchmarked cards.`

    They said overclocked quad core cpu utilized very well. It does not mean that dual core is not utilized well.
    They said it because they r using 9800GX2, HD 4870 X2,GTX260 SLI, GTX 280SLI.

    `The dual-chip GeForce 9800 GX2 responds extremely well to the overclocked quad-core CPU.`
    They mention dual gpu configuration responds extremely well to theoverclocked quad-core cpu in
    world in conflict .

    `Call of duty 4 benchmark .......A faster CPU with more overclocking potential could certainly squeeze more 3D power from them.`

    Call of duty 4 @Max detail 1680*1050 the FPS is already 150!.
    will anyone notice any difference between 60FPs vs 150FPS.

    `Many of our tested boards benefit from the overclocked quad-core CPU, converting the better baseline performance into more 3D performance.
    `

    Yes quad core r better but i7 is better then 65nm/45nm quad core . SO go for i7 .
    `Option 2 rig had Radeon 4870 512MB, not Radeon 4850 MB ....... so major difference between option 2 and 3 was the cpu ...... not gpu ..........`

    This is the question i am waiting for.
    option 2 -p43 chipset which is not as good as p35 in the case of overclocking.
    option 3 - p45 - everything is ok.

    current game like gta4 and upcoming games will be bottlenecked with 512MB VRAM.
    512 MB is already minimum in some game.
    search internet and u will find 4870 512mb vs GTX260 and 4870 1GB vs GTX260 core 216.

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    ato gan ,,, kothai pabo ami

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    Default Re: Buying a new pc, need advise

    thanks a lot to everyone for all the advices, informations, links and details. I am really overwhelmed to see the response!!!!!!!!(BG is the best!)

    However, the thing that is puzzling me the most is............anywhere i ask about whether to go with a dual or a quad core, the response is the same-50% suggests a quad core and the rest 50% recommends a dual core.

    I have come to the conclusion that both are fine for me, with quad being a bit more promising for the future. As for the mainboard....i just need a basic functioning board with good overclocking potentials. PCI express 2.0 is not necessary as real world performance differences between 1.0 and 2.0 are negligible.

    I will be gaming at mostly 1280*1024(cant buy a new monitor now), so i dont think 1 GB 4870 is an absolute necessity as there exists very little difference in performance between 1GB and 512MB iat 1280*1024. Also, 1GB versions are not all that available in bangkok and the pricings are weird( big price gap between 1GB and 512MB versions).

    and hence, I have taken my final decision as:

    CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600(Hopefully I will be able to overclock it to atleast 3 GHZ)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31 DS3L(good overclocker, matches p35 in performance)
    GPU: Radeon HD 4870 512MB(But will try for the 1GB ,lets see!)

    Order is sent and will recieve the parts soon. I will update you guys as soon as i get them.

    Thanks again for all the help!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    ``CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600(Hopefully I will be able to overclock it to atleast 3 GHZ)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31 DS3L(good overclocker, matches p35 in performance)
    GPU: Radeon HD 4870 512MB(But will try for the 1GB ,lets see!)``

    EP31DS3L is a very good mobo with basic functionality and moderate overclocking ability.(See Gigabyte website about its ram/slot limitation )
    ""Because of chipset limitations
    *To avoid the system being unable to start or the memory being incorrectly detected, if only one memory module is to be installed, we suggest that you install it on the DDR2_1 or DDR2_3 socket.
    *To install two memory modules, we suggest that you install them on the DDR2_1 and DDR2_3 sockets, when the DDR2_2 or DDR2_4 socket is populated with a DDR2 1066 MHz memory module, the memory speed will be downgraded to 800 MHz).
    *when using FSB 1333 MHz CPU with populating all DIMM sockets, memory frequency will be reduced from the original, and system instability or incorrect detection of memory module may be occur.

    ""

    CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 will overclock easily 3 GHz with this mobo using stock cooler.
    GPU: Radeon HD 4870 512MB is (Very)good enough for 1280*1024.

    But next 1/2 year 1GB version will let u play with maximum detail @1280*1024 smoothly.
    If the price difference is greater then 15~20% than go with 512MB version.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post

    And CPU prices in BD are OK.. U should rather get a PSU. PSU are still expenive in BD.
    That is true.

    U should get a descent Psu.

    Here is two link for Psu.

    Official XS Tiered PSU Manufacturer Brand Listing
    Try to get any psu between Tier1 to 3 or at least tier 4.

    And try to get higher combined +12V ampere(watt).
    Combined 12v Ratings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    Where did i mention at 1024x768, the overclocked quad core outran the overclocked dual core ....... and it will run slower in 1280x1024 or1680x1080 with the same hardware?
    My point is E7300(overclocked) has enough power to run HD4870 and omi_1080 has limited budget .

    Q6600 is better but my point is e7300(overclocked)+4870 1GB+P45 is better than q6600+4870 512MB+p43.


    Here they mean that even with 512MB ram HD4870 works well in single & crossfire mode where Nvidia runs into problems with its 512 MB Ram (9800 GX2, 9800 GTX+).


    `The power of the overclocked quad-core CPU is utilized very well by all of the benchmarked cards.`

    They said overclocked quad core cpu utilized very well. It does not mean that dual core is not utilized well.
    They said it because they r using 9800GX2, HD 4870 X2,GTX260 SLI, GTX 280SLI.

    `The dual-chip GeForce 9800 GX2 responds extremely well to the overclocked quad-core CPU.`
    They mention dual gpu configuration responds extremely well to theoverclocked quad-core cpu in
    world in conflict .

    `Call of duty 4 benchmark .......A faster CPU with more overclocking potential could certainly squeeze more 3D power from them.`

    Call of duty 4 @Max detail 1680*1050 the FPS is already 150!.
    will anyone notice any difference between 60FPs vs 150FPS.

    `Many of our tested boards benefit from the overclocked quad-core CPU, converting the better baseline performance into more 3D performance.
    `

    Yes quad core r better but i7 is better then 65nm/45nm quad core . SO go for i7 .
    `Option 2 rig had Radeon 4870 512MB, not Radeon 4850 MB ....... so major difference between option 2 and 3 was the cpu ...... not gpu ..........`

    This is the question i am waiting for.
    option 2 -p43 chipset which is not as good as p35 in the case of overclocking.
    option 3 - p45 - everything is ok.

    current game like gta4 and upcoming games will be bottlenecked with 512MB VRAM.
    512 MB is already minimum in some game.
    search internet and u will find 4870 512mb vs GTX260 and 4870 1GB vs GTX260 core 216.
    jodi Call of duty 4 60 fps and 150 fps er difference notice i na kora jai ......... then he shudnt be even bothered to buy 4870 1GB ....... i mean y will he buy dat if he doesnt get dat much fps ........ shobai to taile 60 na ..... 30 fps diyai happy thakto ....... coz 30 fps er upore human eye to notice i korte pare na ..........

    512 MB bottleneck hoite deri ase ........... gta 4 was a bad port ...... dats y it required around 1GB VRAM to unlock high quality textures ........ and yes 512MB costs significantly less than 1GB version ......

    oibhabhe chinta korle to Radeon 4870 1GB kinao loss ....... coz upcoming RV800 supports Directx11 .....which current generation lacks .........


    Corei7 to best but akhono mainstream versions release hoy nai ........ and it requires ddr-3 ram ..... so now its best to settle for Core 2 Quad ...... or wait for them to come .......

    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    ``CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600(Hopefully I will be able to overclock it to atleast 3 GHZ)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31 DS3L(good overclocker, matches p35 in performance)
    GPU: Radeon HD 4870 512MB(But will try for the 1GB ,lets see!)``

    EP31DS3L is a very good mobo with basic functionality and moderate overclocking ability.(See Gigabyte website about its ram/slot limitation )
    ""Because of chipset limitations
    *To avoid the system being unable to start or the memory being incorrectly detected, if only one memory module is to be installed, we suggest that you install it on the DDR2_1 or DDR2_3 socket.
    *To install two memory modules, we suggest that you install them on the DDR2_1 and DDR2_3 sockets, when the DDR2_2 or DDR2_4 socket is populated with a DDR2 1066 MHz memory module, the memory speed will be downgraded to 800 MHz).
    *when using FSB 1333 MHz CPU with populating all DIMM sockets, memory frequency will be reduced from the original, and system instability or incorrect detection of memory module may be occur.

    ""

    CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 will overclock easily 3 GHz with this mobo using stock cooler.
    GPU: Radeon HD 4870 512MB is (Very)good enough for 1280*1024.

    But next 1/2 year 1GB version will let u play with maximum detail @1280*1024 smoothly.
    If the price difference is greater then 15~20% than go with 512MB version.



    That is true.

    U should get a descent Psu.

    Here is two link for Psu.

    Official XS Tiered PSU Manufacturer Brand Listing
    Try to get any psu between Tier1 to 3 or at least tier 4.

    And try to get higher combined +12V ampere(watt).
    Combined 12v Ratings
    koyjon kintase notun pc ????? i thought omi was buying one ....... u r buying one too ???

    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    LOL.. I did not tell him to upgrade to Core i7 after 2 years. I said Quad core. Get a Q9XXX after it gets cheap after 2 years.

    2 years por Q9xx series museum e pawa jaabe ........ try buying the first (Conroe) core 2 duo processors from the market now .......... I mean try buying E6300 1.86 GHz and E6400 2.13 GHz ........ even go for E6700 2.67 Ghz (which is same speed as e7300 i guess) ..... they are 2 years old now .......... if any1 suggest u to buy them now, will u buy them ??????? Even if u wanna buy them, good luck finding a gud deal ........
    Last edited by [email protected]; December 23rd, 2008 at 18:46. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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