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    I was unable to make this post this at HELLCRAFT forum, so I'm posting it here. And my question is this, what is HELLCRAFT doing to keep WC3 in WCG 2009? are they making an effort????? AT ALL???

    I personally love the game (Classic WC3). And since HELLCRAFT is the biggest community in WC3 i want to know whether they can actually make a difference or are they just an inactive community.
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    i don't think hellcraft can do nething 2 keep WC in wcg BD. they can only help us play.

    we all want WC in wcg BD. And if something stupid is not being done by any1, WC will b in wcg BD 09 as well.

    btw, i heard that wcg BD preliminary will b held in February, B4 every1 gets busy with exams.
    Last edited by Mad Monk; November 24th, 2008 at 13:29. Reason: damn....that was a SECRET :P
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by GG.AIM View Post
    i don't think hellcraft can do nething 2 keep WC in wcg BD. they can only help us play.

    we all want WC in wcg BD. And if something stupid is not being done by any1, WC will b in wcg BD 09 as well.

    btw, i heard that wcg BD preliminary will b held in February, B4 every1 gets busy with exams.
    now i play wc 3 seriously n i just love d game..but i heard from a confirm source that this time in wcg 09 this game will not b selected for som other reasons..this time RA3 will b chosen..i feel sad 2 hear that but i have nothin 2 do
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Yes, AIM, it will not be selected, it is semi-confirmed. RA3 might get selected. And, yes, since it claims to be a pioneer in WCIII, in BD, HeLLCrafT should do something and take steps. I don't know about them, if it were me I would start organizing fundraisers to come up with funds to give to F1 to send the players. Just a random thought.

    And, we'd always be there to back him up.

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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    i think someone should tell Irfan vai about the Business solution....atleast WARCRAFT has more(mayb double) TYPE B players then RA3,TYPE A player...
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    Warcraft has more TYPE A players than any other RTS in BD.

    i didn't know WC has been semi-dropped.^^ don't worry, do what u guys can do.... that is practice hard. even if all goes wrong, atleast F1 will come 2 their senses next year.
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    ami ei matro 'news' pelam je " WC's been replaced by RA3 " 'news' ta VUA. AKHONO KISUI THIK HOY NAI. so u guys keep playing Warcraft instead of doing all the thinking. really. That goes 4 te February preliminaries as well.

    so take care and play games. Let the ORGANISERS do the thinking.

    Aro onek kisui bola jeto, bollam na coz not necessary. tobe akta jinis bolte badho hochi jeta ageo bolsi..." if something stupid is not being done by any1, WC will b in wcg BD 09 as well. " CIAO.
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    i don't think hellcraft can change their descision or anything..but oviously now there is a place where all crafters can practise and get better...so yah hellcraft will have a good influence. but honestly i thnik RA3 should be taken. most probably lots of ppl wud groan at me. but face it...they can do better than us in the grandfinales. i doubt anyone has as much as dedication as the CH people have towards their game.and i don't blame the BD crafters . competiting with players who play the same game 15hrs and had playing it for the last 5years...is just not possible now. at max jodi MM eer moto group pore..then 2nd round eei jabe and onek practise lagbe..and there isin't much of a way for us to get better.coz first we don't get to play with PROS so how will we push ourselves to the next level ?? i will give a very easy example: shobai tou bole je PROs der APM onek high.. ar amader ato kom..know why ?? coz amader ato kisu korte dorkar ee pore na. most of the time amra base ee boshe thaki or just creeping kori. hardly keu multitasking kore..so unless we get better players who are way more better than us to play with..there really isin't a point pursuing this game.coz when we will play PROS we'll automatically start getting better....i say Moon Grubby ar amader player der talent ee difference nei..but we lack in the other stuff. potential same but facilities not same

    i hope i don't hurt anyones feelings on this post...and sry in advance to people i just got pissed
    Last edited by HeLL]deathknight; November 24th, 2008 at 23:17.
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    shuno DK, tomar oi dedication nao thakte pare, amar ase, onekeri ase. amonki kalkeo ami boshe boshe shudhu hero combo practice korsi amar haat batha hoa porjonto, then abar korsi, exam er modhe. Garena te dui akjon BD top player ase, jara ami jokhoni GA te login kori dekhi Europe room e boshe ase. Dedication is such a easy word 2 speak of....

    Ar akta jinis, none of the TOP WC players started off playing 4 wcg. we pursue only 1 thing... 2 b very good at it. it is a good thing that this level is so high.

    Ar RA3 ra valo korbe bolte ki bujhacho? ora ki wcg jitbe? Fifa te karo original softs nai, tai ora 2nd round e jeye bolte pare valo korsi. kintu RA3 te shobai 'pro' player. Ora to 2nd round e jeye out hoe gele unacceptable result e hobe imo....

    tobe akta jinis bujhte parso kano apm high hoy. and instead of saying u can't do this, y don't u TRY 2 do it? ami to try kori. ebong samne December e aro korbo. motamoti khelleo amar apm 160 hoto, practice korle nischoi 260 o hobe. ar GArena te Europe room e 10 ta match khele dakho... 2/1 ta porbe Hardcore player der sathe, jader sathe BD er je keu size hobe. we hav 2 beat THEM 1st than think abt Moon or Grubby.

    and u r true abt the potential also. there's a law of nature- every energy can transform in2 other energy only if it faces some resistance. we hav the talent, but not the 'resistance' 2 turn it in2 pro skills.

    only 1 thing matters in WC... practice.
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by GG.AIM View Post
    shuno DK, tomar oi dedication nao thakte pare, amar ase, onekeri ase. amonki kalkeo ami boshe boshe shudhu hero combo practice korsi amar haat batha hoa porjonto, then abar korsi, exam er modhe. Garena te dui akjon BD top player ase, jara ami jokhoni GA te login kori dekhi Europe room e boshe ase. Dedication is such a easy word 2 speak of....

    Ar akta jinis, none of the TOP WC players started off playing 4 wcg. we pursue only 1 thing... 2 b very good at it. it is a good thing that this level is so high.

    Ar RA3 ra valo korbe bolte ki bujhacho? ora ki wcg jitbe? Fifa te karo original softs nai, tai ora 2nd round e jeye bolte pare valo korsi. kintu RA3 te shobai 'pro' player. Ora to 2nd round e jeye out hoe gele unacceptable result e hobe imo....

    tobe akta jinis bujhte parso kano apm high hoy. and instead of saying u can't do this, y don't u TRY 2 do it? ami to try kori. ebong samne December e aro korbo. motamoti khelleo amar apm 160 hoto, practice korle nischoi 260 o hobe. ar GArena te Europe room e 10 ta match khele dakho... 2/1 ta porbe Hardcore player der sathe, jader sathe BD er je keu size hobe. we hav 2 beat THEM 1st than think abt Moon or Grubby.

    and u r true abt the potential also. there's a law of nature- every energy can transform in2 other energy only if it faces some resistance. we hav the talent, but not the 'resistance' 2 turn it in2 pro skills.

    only 1 thing matters in WC... practice.
    Practicing with the best. Nije der modhdhe khelte thakle kono dino world scale-a improve hoy na in any game! :S But, let's hope the internet will become better after this year so we can play with other players abroad.

    And, I don't agree that WCIII has the most TYPE A players. Obviously CnC does. Can't give you that one AIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dynamics View Post
    And, I don't agree that WCIII has the most TYPE A players. Obviously CnC does. Can't give you that one AIM.
    CnC er type A ar WC er type A er modhe akash patal parthokko ache, u'll hav 2 give me that 1. so u can't compare all players with the same scale. we may b just as good as them but still b B- or C.

    Ar CnC ra to gaming prodigy na .... they r like u n me. If they can do it, y can't we? And its not like they play against top players and we don't. There r players in GA and eurobattle even Tod will have trouble beating. the difference is ... when they(CnCs) get 2 play top players, they can keep on playing; where we play 1 top, 9 noobs. This is y ladder is the key. And with latency like 200, u can only reach a certain level in ladders.
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by GG.AIM View Post
    CnC er type A ar WC er type A er modhe akash patal parthokko ache, u'll hav 2 give me that 1. so u can't compare all players with the same scale. we may b just as good as them but still b B- or C.

    Ar CnC ra to gaming prodigy na .... they r like u n me. If they can do it, y can't we? And its not like they play against top players and we don't. There r players in GA and eurobattle even Tod will have trouble beating. the difference is ... when they(CnCs) get 2 play top players, they can keep on playing; where we play 1 top, 9 noobs. This is y ladder is the key. And with latency like 200, u can only reach a certain level in ladders.
    What? Now, I'm going to say your love for WC is destroying your credible sensibility. CnC players are already established, playing in Ladder. Go ask the best RA3 player in the world about CHR I'm pretty sure he's heard about it.

    Your post is actually a pep talk more than anything else. There is a reason BD CnC players are so good, because where there are suppose 200 professional Warcraft players, there are 20 Pro CnC players. It is not as easy as you have mentioned. If players from CHR go to WCG, a win and a possible qualification up to the 2nd, even third round is not an impossibility. We saw the champion of Warcraft go to Germany, how many matches did he win? If you start training a Warcraft III player he'll need to start at a lower level, than say a CHR member if he were to start training for WCG.

    Grade A Warcraft III players are Moon, Grubby, ToD, Sase, Kpect, Sting, SoJu, ReminD, Reign, Lyn, Who, Fov, Check, HoT, Elfi and the lot. Most of these players have been playing for over 5 years at world level. And the new boys, Lucifron & Creo had no walk in the parks too while they were trying to reach this level. You say a year of practice is going to make you as good as them? Everyone is human, everyone is capable of doing what Moon has done in his life - WRONG. It is not true, there is more to it than that. we have faced this in DotA, and now in CS, maybe you'll need to face it in WC too for you to realize it. Why is the Bangladesh Cricket Team so bad, even after playing with the best players in the world. A bettter example, why isn't everyone Christiano Ronaldo or Beckham? I'll give anybody a football field and a Feva Nova, become as good as them. IMPOSSIBLE.

    I like WC more than CnC, that no secret. But, I'm looking at it from a neutral point of View.

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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    dont say impossible things & dont discuss RA3 in a Warcraft III related topic...

    keep ur ideas in ur pocket...we r not gonna ask the best RA3 player in the world about CHR...

    OFFTOPIC jabar kono dorkar dekhi na ami...
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    damn Saleh vai, u didn't even give me a chance 2 clear some misconceptions. ^^ but that'd only result in another series of ot-s.

    ONtopic, i don't think hell is liable 2 do anything 2 keep WC in wcg. still, i've talked 2 them n they say they'll do all in their power, but the players will hav 2 stand up n b counted. quite literally if necessary.
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Monk View Post
    dont say impossible things & dont discuss RA3 in a Warcraft III related topic...

    keep ur ideas in ur pocket...we r not gonna ask the best RA3 player in the world about CHR...

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    Ke kon jaigai offtopic korse ta sob e amra dekhsi Saleh. We have saved and will use it when required. Eikhane tumi offtopic er gyan diteso kintu onno jaigai tumi ki korso ta ektu mone raikho.
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Monk View Post
    dont say impossible things & dont discuss RA3 in a Warcraft III related topic...

    keep ur ideas in ur pocket...we r not gonna ask the best RA3 player in the world about CHR...

    OFFTOPIC jabar kono dorkar dekhi na ami...
    What off-topic? It was said in this thread that WCIII has more A-Ranked players than any other Strategy games in BD - which is wrong! I think even AoE has players in BD who are better compared to the World's best, than WC.

    The bigger topic is WCIII and RA3. We all know that it will come down to a duel between these two in the next WCG. Knowing Irfan, both will not exist. So it's a choice. I've made the harder one.

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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Hellcraft actually can do very little or nothing abt warcraft. so this topic shd be closed. let RA3 players play RA3, and let warcraft players play warcraft. which one will be in WCG? that decision rests in my hand
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    K, well close it then.

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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    Quote Originally Posted by CHR.M4NTIS View Post
    We have saved and will use it when required.
    i hav nothing 2 say... but plz calm down. there is no war.

    neway, Pyro is right... we shud try 2 answer the bigger questions. although the thread name indicates the topic.

    @Pyro: since u have posted an additional post showing interest, let me explain a little. i didn't say we can bt moon. and i don't think the cnc guys say that they will bt the moon equivalent player either. and abt class A/B - i m just saying u can't measure 2 game players with the same scale. in 1 scale it may show 30' C and in another 86' F. and from ur last post i c we were not talking in the same frequency. what u say is right. my perspective was different.

    ar keu akjon plz ekhane post kore ba pm kore janan je kivabe janlen wcg te ebar WC bad die onno game near chinta choltese. and plz don't say Irfan vai told it 2 mainman. xD
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    Default Re: What Is HELLCRAFT doing about WCG 2009??

    MANTIS ??!!?? when did u come in this thread ??!!?? :mellow:

    sorry if i made u angry....but i actually didnt see u .....damn
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