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Thread: AMD Radeon HD 7950, 7870 vs. Nvidia Geforce GTX 670 and 660ti

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    Default AMD Radeon HD 7950, 7870 vs. Nvidia Geforce GTX 670 and 660ti

    With the launch of GTX 660ti, Nvidia officially starts its production of med-range card suited for gamers who want the best at a budget. But AMD is not behind either. With its fleet of 79XX and 78XX cards, the manufacturer wants to give its rival a run for their money. Although fanboys will always be loyal to their brand, for regular people, it can be a hard choice to choose between green or red. So this thread serves the purposes of comparing the GPU lords, and help you choose.

    First of all lets start specification wise:

    The GTX 660ti and 670 have almost the same features with 1344 shaders, 112 texture units, 102.5Gtex/s of texture fill rate and 3.54 billion transistors. The difference starts off with its bandwidth. The 670 has 192.2 GB/s of memory bandwidth with a 256 bit bus, where as the 660ti has 144.2 GB/s and bus of 192 bit. The 660ti eats 150watt where as the 670 needs 170.

    The AMDs are quite different from the Nvidia ones. Both the 7950 and 7870 has 1000MHz of base clock unlike 915MHz of 660 ti and 670. The 7950 has 384 bit memory bus with 240 GB/s of bandwidth. Like the 670 and 660 ti, the 7950 also has 32 ROPs and 112 texture units. However, the HD 7950 lags behind in texture fill rate, where the 670 and 660ti have 102.5, the AMD comes with 89.6Gtex/s. AMD Radeon HD 7870 has 256 bit memory bus and 153.6 GB/s of bandwidth, more than that of 660ti. The 7970 and 7870 have 1792 and 1280 of shaders respectively.

    Lets see, how the specs affect in Gaming:

    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    Average FPS | 1920x1080, 16x FA, 8x MSAA
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 83.2
    Nvidia GTX 670 : 81.6
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 81.2
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 74

    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    Average FPS | 2560x1600, 16x FA, 8x MSAA
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 64.6
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 61.5
    Nvidia GTX 670 : 59.8
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 50

    Battlefield 3
    Average FPS | 1920x1080, 16x FA, 4x AA
    Nvidia GTX 670 : 55.6
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 49.5
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 46.4
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 43.6

    Battlefield 3
    Average FPS | 1920x1080, 16x FA, No AA
    Nvidia GTX 670 : 50.5
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 46.1
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 44.5
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 41.4

    Metro 2033
    Average FPS | 1920x1080, Dx11, 4x MSAA, 16x AF, No PhysX, DOF, High Settings.
    Nvidia GTX 670 : 62.7
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 60.4
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 55.9
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 52.1

    Metro 2033
    Average FPS | 2560x1600, Dx11, AAA, 16x AF, No PhysX, DOF, High Settings.
    Nvidia GTX 670: 52.3
    AMD Radeon HD 7950 : 47.9
    Nvidia GTX 660 ti : 43.7
    AMD Radeon HD 7870 : 40

    (Benchmarks from Tom's Hardware)

    As you can see, specs don't really matter when it comes to practical performance. The 660ti has an edge over the 7870. The 7950 and 670 goes head to head. However the HD 7970 has better performance than all of the cards. So get that if you can manage the funds. Recently AMD launched the HD 7950 Boost Edition. Current HD 7950 users can get the feature just by updating their card's firmware and new batch of cards already come with the upgrade. The new move by AMD might enable the 7950 to beat the 670, however I will provide a legit comparison when the benchies arrive.
    Last edited by aayman; August 19th, 2012 at 17:29. Reason: Fixed Typo

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    Good post and everything.

    But mentioning the same info from another forum that you posted yourself typically does not count as source.
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    Thats a little 'trick' up there

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    Quote Originally Posted by avas911 View Post
    Good post and everything.

    But mentioning the same info from another forum that you posted yourself typically does not count as source.
    I posted there first. I hope the mods dont mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2O View Post
    I posted there first. I hope the mods dont mind.
    That was not the source anyway! & since you clearly mentioned, "Benchmark from Tom's Hardware." so, the source would be "Tom's Hardware"! Well, what you are doing is more like advertising! I guess every other mods will agree with me on that point!
    Last edited by Red Devil; August 19th, 2012 at 16:49.

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    It's blatantly obvious that you want to promote the site. I understand the write up is yours, but all you are doing is reporting and then telling you yourself is the source. You see where the problem is? You don't see anyone going to your site and using BG as a source for anything, so please have a little respect and don't do this again. Thank you

    On another note, the 7950 in no way goes head-to-head with the 670, it only matches/beats it in some but loses out in most. The 670 however goes head to head with the 7970, but loses more to the GHZ edition. Considering the current prices, the 670 is the card to get. After AMD responds to the 660ti, the 7950 will be the best value for money.

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    besides we r discussing all those benchy in this thread http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...ng-sold-at-299


    Guess what??? scan it??:

    Good enough GAMING RIG

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    So price wise, which is the best bang for buck?

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    hmmmm nice post... mate...
    Last edited by iGx : Itachi; August 20th, 2012 at 00:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    On another note, the 7950 in no way goes head-to-head with the 670, it only matches/beats it in some but loses out in most. The 670 however goes head to head with the 7970, but loses more to the GHZ edition. Considering the current prices, the 670 is the card to get. After AMD responds to the 660ti, the 7950 will be the best value for money.
    AMD's response to the 660Ti? The 7950 is priced at around $340 compared to the 660Ti's $300 with the 7950 being a little faster. Overclock the 7950, however (35% is easily doable), and it is about the same as an overclocked 670 and leaves the 660Ti much further behind. Considering current prices, the 7950 is the card to get, boost edition or not. 670 is also slower than a standard 7970, especially with the newer drivers and the difference widens as resolution goes up as well as overclocking. 7970 Ghz? Thats 680 territory.

    7870 needs to drop in price though, since the 660Ti is faster and costs about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayemcom View Post
    So price wise, which is the best bang for buck?
    i guess now gtx660ti, but u are an ocer, 7950hd.
    But i guess a big pricecut is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazhar View Post
    7870 needs to drop in price though, since the 660Ti is faster and costs about the same.
    Im hoping there will be price cuts across all cards leading to 7950 at 300$. Thats going to be the ultimate bang for the buck especially if it still comes with the 3 free games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syeef View Post
    Sorry.
    It seems I am never gonna get that GTX 680...
    The Gigabyte GTX670 is already available, I'm surprised you're still waiting for a 680. Go grab it! If the 680 is 50k which I'm sure it'll, it's not worth that extra dough.

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    @Syeef 88 ta sell korle amake obosshoi obosshoi janaba. its a solemn request!
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    My god you guys just love picking a fight. How about putting as much energy to stay calm rather than running out with your horns out? I'm sure you'll find the world is a better place that way.

    Stay on topic or I will close the thread.

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    At least eid er din ta to jhogra korien nah

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    This was faster then expected.

    AMD Readies New Round of Radeon HD 7000 Series Price Cuts
    AMD is working on a new set of price-cuts for its performance-thru-enthusiast lines of GPUs, following the launch of NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 660 Ti. The new pricing will take effect by the end of this week. The $299 GeForce GTX 660 Ti, as reviews show, offers higher performance per Dollar than Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, and punches above its weight, at the $349 Radeon HD 7950, prompting AMD to change its specifications by increasing core clock speed, and augmenting it with PowerTune with Boost. The resulting HD 7950 with Boost is bound to replace the older HD 7950.

    When AMD's new pricing scheme takes effect, this is how the performance-enthusiast segment will shape up:
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7950 Boost will go down from US $349 to $319,
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition will go down from $299 to $249,
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7850 2GB will go down to $209, and HD 7850 1GB to $189.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    This was faster then expected.

    When AMD's new pricing scheme takes effect, this is how the performance-enthusiast segment will shape up:
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7950 Boost will go down from US $349 to $319,
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition will go down from $299 to $249,
    • Prices of Radeon HD 7850 2GB will go down to $209, and HD 7850 1GB to $189.
    The 7870 price cut was expected but $319 for a 7950 boost is quite an amazing deal.

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