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    Default Core i5 650: Possible issues with GPUs.........!!!

    Hey guys, i am thinking of buying a Core i5 650 (3.2GHz) which is rarely used for about 1 year.............Would it bottleneck GPUs' like GTX560; HD 7850...............???

    I can get the processor at real cheap price (7k)........thinking of turbo boosting with Hyper Evo cooler............!!!

    I can also get a decent motherboard at 11-12K as the CPU cost has gone down and get 8Gb 1600bus ADATA XPG RAMs with it...............!!!

    I am not thinking of playing games at ultra settings rather i would choose Moderate-High settings at 1680*1050 resolution.............!!!

    My Configuration would be: Core i5 650(7K) + Decent MOBO(12K) + 8GB 1600bus Gaming RAM(8K) + HD7850(25K) + 650W PSU(8K) + In Win MANA Gaming Casing(5K) (Max Cost = 65K) ................!!!

    Would it be able to provide 50-60 FPS at high setting in games like: BF3, LA Noire, GTA IV, Black OPs, MW3 etc.............!!!


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    If you are sure about what you suggest/recommend, i would be grateful.............don't give ideas about what could happen rather provide facts which would actually help...........Thank You.........!!!

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    I forgot to mention Corsair Hyper Evo Cooler = 3K.................!!!

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    I have already got 30K in my hands............hey can i use 9400GT for Physics or whatever some people say...........if i can, how do i do that............???



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    Your processor will not get any bottleneck with your 7850. But think about it once again. .isnt your total budget is 65k? You could have get a better one . .you can get i5 2400 along with gigabyte b75 board and i5 2400 can be better than i5 1st gen as well and naah nvidia 9400 is not a good hybridge physX gpu. .you should have 9600 or 9800 or better if you want to do any hybridge physx . .and get gtx 560 msi one at 17k or gigabyte 7850 at 22k as you said ago that you dont want anything ultra but want to play at high, then msi gtx 560 will do fine and get cooler master 550w then you can also save up your money and for casing tt v4 will do fine but if you want to get better then go for inwin mana it look cool though. .

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    8GB XPG RAM will be absolutely useless for you, you will only be spending the extra cash for the status of having 'gaming' RAMs. 650W for that setup is overkill, you can easily make do with 500W and have plenty of headroom.

    I'm not sure of the current prices so I'm only commenting on your suggested build.

    If you want to OC, try and at least get a 2500K and a decent P67 board. A cooler isn't necessary btw.

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    The Core i5 650 is of the first generation of core series processor and is close to becoming obsolete as upgrade paths for it are non existant and furthermore this processor at stock speeds can't even beat the 2nd gen core i3 2100 in most benches, so I'd suggest you to move to the 2nd gen platform.

    Http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/144?vs=289

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    Quote Originally Posted by blood stain child View Post
    Your processor will not get any bottleneck with your 7850. But think about it once again. .isnt your total budget is 65k? You could have get a better one . .you can get i5 2400 along with gigabyte b75 board and i5 2400 can be better than i5 1st gen as well and naah nvidia 9400 is not a good hybridge physX gpu. .you should have 9600 or 9800 or better if you want to do any hybridge physx . .and get gtx 560 msi one at 17k or gigabyte 7850 at 22k as you said ago that you dont want anything ultra but want to play at high, then msi gtx 560 will do fine and get cooler master 550w then you can also save up your money and for casing tt v4 will do fine but if you want to get better then go for inwin mana it look cool though. .
    Too many wrong informations. Dont know which one should i pick and start bashing. JUST STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blood stain child View Post
    Your processor will not get any bottleneck with your 7850. But think about it once again. .isnt your total budget is 65k? You could have get a better one . .you can get i5 2400 along with gigabyte b75 board and i5 2400 can be better than i5 1st gen as well and naah nvidia 9400 is not a good hybridge physX gpu. .you should have 9600 or 9800 or better if you want to do any hybridge physx . .and get gtx 560 msi one at 17k or gigabyte 7850 at 22k as you said ago that you dont want anything ultra but want to play at high, then msi gtx 560 will do fine and get cooler master 550w then you can also save up your money and for casing tt v4 will do fine but if you want to get better then go for inwin mana it look cool though. .
    It will bottleneck.
    It is Hybrid, not "Hybridge". And i dont think you how much hassle it to use nvidia physx with at card. You will need a modded driver.
    B75 is not necessary unless he uses a SATAIII SSD. 1600bus RAM and 22nm processor wont give more than 0.5 fps increase in games. And if you talk about the future path, i'ld say Haswell is on the way.
    9600 is not powerful enough for physx, even 9800 are falling short in todays high physx intensive games.
    7850>MSI 6850 PE/OC> MSI stock GTX560. That SOC 6850 draws much less power and give better performance than any stock GTX560 non-Ti. The Price is also less, only 14,800/=
    Inwin mana is waaay too costly according to its performance.

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    @Vanguard I don't think the mentioned processor will bottleneck HD7850, it's as capable as a 2nd gen core i3 2100 and I know too many ppl that're using core i3 2100 coupled with a HD7850 without a hitch. And secondly, I don't think you know much about Hybrid PhysX, you don't need a modded driver or anything, just a simple patch and manually copying a few patched .dll files to the PhysX-enabled game directories to implement Hybrid PhysX, and for your info, the HD 7850 is in the GTX 570'S league, so your comparison of it with the HD6850 OC/GTX 560 is invalid, the HD 7850 can even be overclocked to match the GTX 580 in certaint titles, so I guess you're full of misconceptions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    It will bottleneck.
    It is Hybrid, not "Hybridge". And i dont think you how much hassle it to use nvidia physx with at card. You will need a modded driver.
    B75 is not necessary unless he uses a SATAIII SSD. 1600bus RAM and 22nm processor wont give more than 0.5 fps increase in games. And if you talk about the future path, i'ld say Haswell is on the way.
    9600 is not powerful enough for physx, even 9800 are falling short in todays high physx intensive games.
    7850>MSI 6850 PE/OC> MSI stock GTX560. That SOC 6850 draws much less power and give better performance than any stock GTX560 non-Ti. The Price is also less, only 14,800/=
    Inwin mana is waaay too costly according to its performance.
    ও আল্লা গো!!!!!.......আপনে সবখানেই নিজের MSI-টার সাথে সবকিছু compare করতাসেন আর কে বলসে imwin mana ভালো perform করে না????ওওওহহহহ আপনে @Vanguard .first of all case perform করে না and gimme another alternative besides mana which got usb 3.0 and cable management............

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG9000 View Post
    the HD 7850 is in the GTX 570'S league, so your comparison of it with the HD6850 OC/GTX 560 is invalid, the HD 7850 can even be overclocked to match the GTX 580 in certaint titles, so I guess you're full of misconceptions as well.
    but i saw sumwhr dat 7850(s) don' scale dat much when oc'd.postin' 4m mob so not possible 4 me 2 give'ya ne link:-/:-/:-/:-/

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    I've a cousin who's using the Sapphire HD 7850 OC himself, and after overclocking it further, his 3DMark scores and his UniEngine Heaven's scores as well as his scores in many other game titles matches the scores of a GTX 580 at stock.

    See this discussion:

    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...2239216&page=2

    I don't know where you got that bit of info regarding HD7850 but it's wrong, the HD7850 is a superb overclocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    It will bottleneck.
    It is Hybrid, not "Hybridge". And i dont think you how much hassle it to use nvidia physx with at card. You will need a modded driver.
    B75 is not necessary unless he uses a SATAIII SSD. 1600bus RAM and 22nm processor wont give more than 0.5 fps increase in games. And if you talk about the future path, i'ld say Haswell is on the way.
    9600 is not powerful enough for physx, even 9800 are falling short in todays high physx intensive games.
    7850>MSI 6850 PE/OC> MSI stock GTX560. That SOC 6850 draws much less power and give better performance than any stock GTX560 non-Ti. The Price is also less, only 14,800/=
    Inwin mana is waaay too costly according to its performance.
    I'd disagree with those points.

    Buying 1600 RAM and 22nm(Ivy Bridge) processors is a good match esp since Ivy IMC natively supports 1600 and beyond, surely it won't give an edge in gaming but it's the sweet spot for these platforms which you can always utilize if the application demands. A 9800GT is fairly capable for rendering PhysX and won't really fall short unless you are talking about Batman which is a flawed game to begin with.

    Plus compare stock vs stock atleast or OC vs OC? A GTX560 can also be OCed you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG9000 View Post
    @Vanguard I don't think the mentioned processor will bottleneck HD7850, it's as capable as a 2nd gen core i3 2100 and I know too many ppl that're using core i3 2100 coupled with a HD7850 without a hitch. And secondly, I don't think you know much about Hybrid PhysX, you don't need a modded driver or anything, just a simple patch and manually copying a few patched .dll files to the PhysX-enabled game directories to implement Hybrid PhysX, and for your info, the HD 7850 is in the GTX 570'S league, so your comparison of it with the HD6850 OC/GTX 560 is invalid, the HD 7850 can even be overclocked to match the GTX 580 in certaint titles, so I guess you're full of misconceptions as well.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/144?vs=289--- no it is not.
    Have you ever tried? Well, it may not seem a hassle to you, but to me, it is.
    Yeah i know that, and i was NOT comparing a 6850 with 7850, it was just because the OP mentioned those 3 names and i clearly stated 7850 is the best. But no way a stock 560 can be better than an super oced 6850.

    @BFG9000 , Ifat you got me all wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtx660 View Post
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    but i saw sumwhr dat 7850(s) don' scale dat much when oc'd.postin' 4m mob so not possible 4 me 2 give'ya ne link:-/:-/:-/:-/
    No bottom intake. Very small front air ventilation path. Good enough to ditch a case's airflow. MSI-commander.
    And yes im Vanguard. Now STFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    I'd disagree with those points.

    Buying 1600 RAM and 22nm(Ivy Bridge) processors is a good match esp since Ivy IMC natively supports 1600 and beyond, surely it won't give an edge in gaming but it's the sweet spot for these platforms which you can always utilize if the application demands. A 9800GT is fairly capable for rendering PhysX and won't really fall short unless you are talking about Batman which is a flawed game to begin with.

    Plus compare stock vs stock atleast or OC vs OC? A GTX560 can also be OCed you know...
    Ami jani re baap, but he mentioned i5 2400 with B75 which is of no use, aijonno ami oi kotha bolsi.
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    I5 2400 ki b75 e support korbe na? No use kano? B75 has native support of 1600bus ram and also has crossfire support and it has pci experess gen 3 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by blood stain child View Post
    I5 2400 ki b75 e support korbe na? No use kano? B75 has native support of 1600bus ram and also has crossfire support and it has pci experess gen 3 .
    1600 bus support, PCIE gen 3 will not be activated unless you install a 22nm processor. READ THE MOTHERBOARD SPECIFICATIONS CAREFULLY.

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    @Vanguard

    http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...l=1#post468602

    I posted the same benchmark before you did and the performance is identical, btw your link's broken and the bottleneck it'll suffer is game dependent, for example if he plays Battlefield 3 multiplayer, he'll face some hitches due to the processor and in a game like Crysis 2 DX11 patch he'll be bottlenecked by the card itself @1440p, so no, a core i5 650 nor the core i3 2100 will bottleneck the HD 7850, coupling the card with a core i5 2500K will roughly boost the framerates by 5 or 10 frames but it'll reduce hitches during cpu intensive scenarios like the multiplayer, that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG9000 View Post
    @Vanguard

    http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...l=1#post468602

    I posted the same benchmark before you did and the performance is identical, btw your link's broken and the bottleneck it'll suffer is game dependent, for example if he plays Battlefield 3 multiplayer, he'll face some hitches due to the processor and in a game like Crysis 2 DX11 patch he'll be bottlenecked by the card itself @1440p, so no, a core i5 650 nor the core i3 2100 will bottleneck the HD 7850, coupling the card with a core i5 2500K will roughly boost the framerates by 5 or 10 frames but it'll reduce hitches during cpu intensive scenarios like the multiplayer, that's it.
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