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    John Carmack isn't excited about next generation gaming consoles

    If you’ve been anxiously awaiting the arrival of Microsoft’s Xbox 720 and Sony’s PlayStation 4, prepare to be disappointed. John Carmack of id Software / Doom / Quake fame believes that these next generation consoles won’t be worth writing home about as they won’t do anything more than deliver better graphics.
    In a recent interview with Gameindustry, the luminary shared his opinion about the next wave of game consoles. Carmack feels that while future consoles will be significantly more powerful than the aging systems that are still around today, it really all comes down to the user experience.

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    He says that anything a designer can come up with today can be done on the 360 or the PS3 and certainly on the PC. As such, the designer isn’t really excited about the future simply because it will be the same thing just “with the knobs turned up.”

    “If you take a current game like Halo which is a 30 hertz game at 720p; if you run that at 1080p, 60 frames with high dynamic frame buffers, all of a sudden you've sucked up all the power you have in the next-generation,” Carmack said. “It will be what we already have, but a lot better. You will be able to redesign with a focus on D11, but it will not really change anyone's world. It will look a lot better, it will move towards the movie rendering experience and that is better and better, but it's not like the first time you've ever played an FPS.”
    He points to Nintendo’s success with the Wii as a game-changing example of thinking outside of the box. While that system only has a tenth of the power of its competitors, it was able to sell extremely well because it was something new and unique.
    So what does he feel is the next big thing in video games? Virtual reality. We’ve heard about this technology for years and for a while there seemed to be a pretty big push towards it but admittedly it’s been absent as of late.
    Carmack is hard at work on a VR headset and reportedly spent most of his time at E3 demonstrating it with Doom 3 BFG Edition. He is working with Palmer Luckey, an inventor that will soon be taking to Kickstarter to get his head-mounted display funded for production. He hopes to eventually sell the units for $500 or around $600 with a copy of Doom 3.

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    Thik e bolse.consoles can never match the gigaflops of compute potential and the GODf¤¤¤ing gfx in modern pcs.computer is where real gaming began

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtx660 View Post
    Thik e bolse.consoles can never match the gigaflops of compute potential and the GODf¤¤¤ing gfx in modern pcs.computer is where real gaming began
    Carmack didn't say anything about pc being better than console.He was talking about innovation.I am no console gamer,but next time at least read the whole post before posting.

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    Carmack's looking for innovation, not hardware improvement. That's why he's designing a VR headband like SEGA did.

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    Carmack hasnt been making good games since DOOM3 so who is he to talk
    FTW!!!!!!!!!!

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    I sort of agree with Carmack, new consoles should have advances in technology

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    Lol Carmack's just jealous that when the XBOX 720 & PS4 will be out, nobody will give a damn about his virtual reality thingamagic
    Last edited by aayman; June 24th, 2012 at 21:55.

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    I read the article already and this was my reply on toms and facebook :

    "What I have always said.This should stomp all graphics lovers.Pretty graphics with not good enough story is not good enough.NO good enough story no virtualization(though I care little about this part).Anywho this guy is my new hero of gaming industry "


    Actually he did say pc is better than [email protected],here are a few excerpts from the full interview :

    "He's more interested in virtual reality, saying that while prettier graphics are nice, this will be the game changer for the industry"(my personal favorite)

    "When people ask how tapped out is the current console generation, PCs are 10 times as powerful but you really are still not technically limited," he said. "Any creative vision that a designer could come up with, we can do a pretty good job representing on current generation and certainly on PC. In many ways, I am not all that excited about the next generation. It will let us do everything we want to do now, with the knobs turned up."(the actual fact)

    and infact any console lover who denies this will only be fooling themselves.


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    I don't think anyone will deny that, but his main point was that there won't be any new industry changing mechanics, but rather, just a simple evolution of what we currently have. There's no PC>consoles argument here, heck he's mentioned how current consoles are not technically limited and how all platforms not seeing enough changes next-gen.

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