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    Okay, so my processor gets stuck at 800MHz like this :
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    After a few minutes of gaming, with the temperature reading showing 255C...

    Does anyone know how to make this stop?



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    Reset the bios to default via jumper, and see if that helps, try deleting the .ini files within core temp's directory as well, does Cpu Z show the same readings as well? Did you unlock the processor or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K' View Post
    Reset the bios to default via jumper, and see if that helps, try deleting the .ini files within core temp's directory as well, does Cpu Z show the same readings as well? Did you unlock the processor or something?
    It goes back to 3200MHz when I restart so I guess CoreTemp is fine. CPU-Z shows the same reading aswell.
    I turned Cool 'n Quiet off and the problem still persists.
    I had my computer RMA'd a week back and they said they updated the bios. How do I reset the bios to default via jumper?




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    The clock speeds/voltage are reduced when AMD CnQ(Cool'n'Quiet) and C1E is working. It helps lower power consumption/heat when the machine is basically idling which in turn ensures longevity of the working components which are subjected to stress such as the VRMs/power phases/processor/cooling fan.

    The temperature reading is surely an anomaly, K10.5 AMD processors has a max limit of 62.5C(core) after which the processor will automatically start throttling to safer levels. If the clocks are stuck, it can be a possibility that the processor is reaching dangerous levels close enough to initiate thermal throttling.

    Some questions I would ask:

    Does the fan work properly? It should spin up when the work load is >40%, and reach RPM levels of ~4-5k when a 60-70% fan duty cycled is profiled.

    Does it only happen in games, can you try LinX with CPUz and CoreTemp running in the background to assess more? Ideally you can also try Prime95, with ambient around ~36C, I wouldn't be surprised if that Thuban is hitting upper 50s with the stock cooler with all 6 cores active.

    Did you tinker with the BIOS recently, incorrect settings such as "forced" CnQ/voltage alterations can sometimes be reponsible for incorrectly reporting clock speeds in otherwise being stuck.Try setting different power profiles under Windows 7 Power Management: Balanced/High Performance for changing processor duty thresholds.

    Lastly try what K suggests, it would be the 1st priority but knowing you aren't much experienced with hardware can easily short the board if the jumper is incorrectly configured and would have to rely on those IDB people which is more of an hassle anyway. A bios update can also remedy things, I can lay down the steps if you want but this is an extremely cautious process, and if not carefully might end up with a brick.

    Sorry for the long post
    Last edited by dipanzan; May 16th, 2012 at 14:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    The clock speeds/voltage are reduced when AMD CnQ(Cool'n'Quiet) and C1E is working. It helps lower power consumption/heat when the machine is basically idling which in turn ensures longevity of the working components which are subjected to stress such as the VRMs/power phases/processor/cooling fan.
    CnQ and C1E is diasbled, and it happens during gaming not when idle.

    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post

    Does the fan work properly? It should spin up when the work load is >40%, and reach RPM levels of ~4-5k when a 60-70% fan duty cycled is profiled.
    How can I check this? MSI Afterburner?


    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Does it only happen in games, can you try LinX with CPUz and CoreTemp running in the background to assess more? Ideally you can also try Prime95, with ambient around ~36C, I wouldn't be surprised if that Thuban is hitting upper 50s with the stock cooler with all 6 cores active.
    I tried Prime95 with CoreTemp in the background, It stays at ~60C with 100% load on all cores and then becomes 800MHz with 255C within 5secs. Fan speed is at around 60% (checked with Afterburner).


    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Did you tinker with the BIOS recently, incorrect settings such as "forced" CnQ/voltage alterations can sometimes be reponsible for incorrectly reporting clock speeds in otherwise being stuck.Try setting different power profiles under Windows 7 Power Management: Balanced/High Performance for changing processor duty thresholds.
    I had it RMA'd so I'm not sure what they did. Win7 Power Management is set to High Performance.


    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Lastly try what K suggests, it would be the 1st priority but knowing you aren't much experienced with hardware can easily short the board if the jumper is incorrectly configured and would have to rely on those IDB people which is more of an hassle anyway. A bios update can also remedy things, I can lay down the steps if you want but this is an extremely cautious process, and if not carefully might end up with a brick.
    I'm not sure how to do that So I'll probably take it to a service center and have the BIOS reset.
    And when I got it RMA'd they said they had the BIOS updated.

    ---------- Post added at 23:53 ---------- Previous post was at 15:04 ----------

    I called up the service center, and they said that they will replace the processor, but since they don't have any more 1090t's they want to upgrade me to a FX chip.
    But I'm not really sure if its the mobo or the processor which is causing this. What do you guys think?
    Last edited by Flame; May 16th, 2012 at 16:07.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame View Post
    CnQ and C1E is diasbled, and it happens during gaming not when idle.


    How can I check this? MSI Afterburner?



    I tried Prime95 with CoreTemp in the background, It stays at ~60C with 100% load on all cores and then becomes 800MHz with 255C within 5secs. Fan speed is at around 60% (checked with Afterburner).



    I had it RMA'd so I'm not sure what they did. Win7 Power Management is set to High Performance.



    I'm not sure how to do that So I'll probably take it to a service center and have the BIOS reset.
    And when I got it RMA'd they said they had the BIOS updated.

    ---------- Post added at 23:53 ---------- Previous post was at 15:04 ----------

    I called up the service center, and they said that they will replace the processor, but since they don't have any more 1090t's they want to upgrade me to a FX chip.
    But I'm not really sure if its the mobo or the processor which is causing this. What do you guys think?
    I've bold the problem part. The processor to my knowledge is thermal throttling to save itself. Did you re-seat the cooler recently, or changed TIM?

    About the RMA, I'd say anything an FX would be a straight downgrade from your 1090T. Tell them to give you at least Phenom II or return money. But if you are content with an FX8120 then why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    I've bold the problem part. The processor to my knowledge is thermal throttling to save itself. Did you re-seat the cooler recently, or changed TIM?

    About the RMA, I'd say anything an FX would be a straight downgrade from your 1090T. Tell them to give you at least Phenom II or return money. But if you are content with an FX8120 then why not.
    So, you think its the processor and my mobo is fine?

    Also no, I didn't do anything like that. :/
    I'm pretty sure they won't return the money, how bad is the FX series really? Because I see a lot of bad reviews.



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    So they're probably gonna replace it with a FX8120, lets see how it goes :/



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    Real fine replacement, also note about power consumption am not sure if your TR2 is up for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Real fine replacement, also note about power consumption am not sure if your TR2 is up for it
    Afaik FX uses less power than Phenom II?



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    Could be a faulty motherboard too, if the sensor is foobar for some reason (AFAIK AMD processors don't have in built temperature sensors) then it's your motherboard that needs to be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame View Post
    Afaik FX uses less power than Phenom II?
    Not the FX81xx. What I'm worried about are the VRMs on your board, IDK if it'll take the extra pressure from an 8120 and don't even think about OCing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame View Post
    Afaik FX uses less power than Phenom II?
    Chart says FX takes more power :/



    Another source - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...8150-review/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Not the FX81xx. What I'm worried about are the VRMs on your board, IDK if it'll take the extra pressure from an 8120 and don't even think about OCing.
    They are like full out of stock on Phenom II's.. So I don't think I have much choice here :/

    And no, I don't overclock cause I'm scared something might blow up



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    Dipanzan, if his motherboard's sensor is faulty for some reason, no matter what processor he uses it'll downclock itself on it's own since the sensor reading is crossing the CPU temperature threshold barrier and therefore will start throttling on it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K' View Post
    Dipanzan, if his motherboard's sensor is faulty for some reason, no matter what processor he uses it'll downclock itself on it's own since the sensor reading is crossing the CPU temperature threshold barrier and therefore will start throttling on it's own.
    From what I can understand if niether of them are faulty a simple CMOS reset/BIOS update would've solved it or reset the cooler properly with re application of TIM but the OP is not much experienced with h/w so I didn't recommend them.

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    He went through the RMA, surely the RMA guys aren't that bad techies, damn I wish I could just teleport to this guy's place and take a look at his pc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    From what I can understand if niether of them are faulty a simple CMOS reset/BIOS update would've solved it or reset the cooler properly with re application of TIM but the OP is not much experienced with h/w so I didn't recommend them.
    RMA guys said they updated my BIOS.I took it there in the first place because it was shutting down at max load, now its just throttling itself :/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame View Post
    RMA guys said they updated my BIOS.I took it there in the first place because it was shutting down at max load, now its just throttling itself :/
    I don't even know if these guys can configure a bios properly(optimal settings). Anyways don't know how they did, but I'm certain(though not 100% as it's rare) it's not a CPU problem. Lets see what the FX does though, you'll be the very first to own an FX8120 here. The thing is a monster in multi threaded stuff, but lacks in single threaded.

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    Last edited by dipanzan; May 19th, 2012 at 04:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    I don't even know if these guys can configure a bios properly(optimal settings). Anyways don't know how they did, but I'm certain(though not 100% as it's rare) it's not a CPU problem. Lets see what the FX does though, you'll be the very first to own an FX8120 here. The thing is a monster in multi threaded stuff, but lacks in single threaded.

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    I do a lot of video encoding, Fraps gaming footage into Sony Vegas Pro... So I guess the encoding process should be a little bit faster :/



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