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    Default Ivy Bridge gets 95W TDP, worse overclocker than Sandy Bridge

    Dont knw what to say..........Intel pulled out a Bulldozer in their own style?
    But this is the current rumour....Intel Tri-Gate tech in jeopardy but few days left ...time will tell
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    At 4.6 - 4.7 Ghz the temperature gets so high the processor throttles, meaning it clocks down to protect the processor from permanent damage. Comparing with Core i7-2600k that in many cases can do 4.8 - 5.0 GHz stable with a good after-market cooler, Ivy Bridge looks to be 200 - 300 Mhz worse than Sandy Bridge.
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    Source::http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...dy-bridge.html

    is the old monopoly between the two companies coming to play? will AMD PD get the chance to close the gap with this Intel slip-up?
    Waiting is the only answer....but this is turning out to be hell of a year..

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    99.99% people do not care about overclock. 'nuff said.

    What actually matters is stock performance/power/price.
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    Thank god i got sandy bridge. 2500k ftw 5ghz here i come.

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    'Rumor', I stopped reading there.

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    Even if it is rumor, it can certainly be true. Tri-gate transistor will pack more heat by design.

    PS: As for the last part of the post, AMD is out of CPU business since core 2 duo and there's no sign that they will be back and go head to head with Intel let alone taking the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Even if it is rumor, it can certainly be true. Tri-gate transistor will pack more heat by design.

    PS: As for the last part of the post, AMD is out of CPU business since core 2 duo and there's no sign that they will be back and go head to head with Intel let alone taking the lead.
    out? what do u mean by OUT? if they were out they would have stopped making CPUs since Core 2 DUO...even after the failure of BD they r still going strong and it hardly affected their sales nd profit...and their Phnm II lineup is still popular for the price

    Here's a new Article published Yesterday by VR-Zone..
    AMD to survive and thrive, still?

    With somewhat disappointing Bulldozer showing, and perceived wavering roadmap, there were comments in the industry circles how AMD will give up the main Intel competitor seat to someone like Qualcomm, or even cease to be in the CPU business altogether. This weeks' preview of the next-generation Fusion APU gave us a chance to mingle with AMD's top execs, see their new CEO and hear - unofficially, of course - what's the way forward.

    Talking about moving forward, the feel is that AMD is there to survive and thrive once again. Rather than repeating the bland statements of 'we don't want to compete in the high end, just on volume' which make no sense since a fabless company cannot compete on volumes against a competitor with seven large fabs at its disposal, this time there's clear indication that, after Piledriver, there will be substantial changes in both cores and system architecture from Steamroller onwards, that should help make AMD competitive closer to the top. I was told that delaying the socket migration beyond the AM3+, C32 and G34 to new socket is a good move,since AMD can design more aggressive, rather than stop gap, sockets for future platforms with better features like more memory and HyperTransport channels, as well as integrated PCIe v3, for greater future scalability. For the first time, some execs do acknowledge that Bulldozer approach may not have been the best one at the time, and things need to change. I was told that there is some good frequency scalability in the Piledriver core which should help gain some per-core performance ground.
    Source::http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-to-s...ll-/15564.html

    There's still much left from AMD..........even though they r behind Intel

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    amd er lalbatti joltese... Oops, amd to emnei laal. First e bulldozer bullshit, akhon abar 680 er kase 7970 er bamboo khawa (ami bujhlam na, worse card, higher price, sales to 100% stop howar kotha). Sigh... Kisudin por intel r nv tader product er jonno amadr kidney niya jabe

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    Quote Originally Posted by waliDJ View Post
    amd er lalbatti joltese... Oops, amd to emnei laal. First e bulldozer bullshit, akhon abar 680 er kase 7970 er bamboo khawa (ami bujhlam na, worse card, higher price, sales to 100% stop howar kotha). Sigh... Kisudin por intel r nv tader product er jonno amadr kidney niya jabe
    dats the reason i want AMD to atleast be competitive in the $200-400 market where intel SB is resting and IVY-B will probably come in that range so dat when buying CPUs our lalbatti doesn't glow....no hope for AMD to catch up with Intels XTREME monsters(well atleast now) but AMD is planning something big for Steamroller nd Xcavator
    sure AMD CPUs will not die cuz their Trinity APU is just fantastic and they r ahead in APU market....and its success leaves some hope for the upcoming Pilediver even though the improovement is said to be 10% than BD but if per core performance is good then it will be a win cuz BD is utter rubbish in per core performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by waliDJ View Post
    amd er lalbatti joltese... Oops, amd to emnei laal. First e bulldozer bullshit, akhon abar 680 er kase 7970 er bamboo khawa (ami bujhlam na, worse card, higher price, sales to 100% stop howar kotha). Sigh... Kisudin por intel r nv tader product er jonno amadr kidney niya jabe
    You do understand that us labelled "enthusiasts" running 2500K/2600K or 1090T/FX8150 at 4-5GHz are only a small niche of the market? Maybe a 5% or even less, and this where AMD strikes it hard: APU (Accelerated Processing Unit). Not only it rapes any of Intel's offerings, but also provides enough value and sells like hotcakes which is the majority(the normal people).

    AMD said they won't be competing directly against Intel, but that doesn't change the fact that they already have working designs in their hand which they'll release in the near future(after all the company has to move forward). That includes the CPU part from Trinity(future APUs) where the cores are just as strong as Nehalem's IPC and that is without an L3 cache.

    With RCM(Resonant Clock Mesh) Bulldozer's main drawback should be fixed/to some extent, and that should give Piledriver an edge when talking about IPW(Instructions Per Watt).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    You do understand that us labelled "enthusiasts" running 2500K/2600K or 1090T/FX8150 at 4-5GHz are only a small niche of the market? Maybe a 5% or even less, and this where AMD strikes it hard: APU (Accelerated Processing Unit). Not only it rapes any of Intel's offerings, but also provides enough value and sells like hotcakes which is the majority(the normal people).AMD said they won't be competing directly against Intel, but that doesn't change the fact that they already have working designs in their hand which they'll release in the near future(after all the company has to move forward). That includes the CPU part from Trinity(future APUs) where the cores are just as strong as Nehalem's IPC and that is without an L3 cache. With RCM(Resonant Clock Mesh) Bulldozer's main drawback should be fixed/to some extent, and that should give Piledriver an edge when talking about IPW(Instructions Per Watt).
    Yeah i know that. Amd has always been better at low to mid priced offerings. (can any nv card beat a 6870 or 6850 in the same price level? Or like u said bout those APUs). But they have never been a worthy competitor when it comes to high performance gaming. And that is actually bad for us, the gamers. If this situation lasts long, intel will eventually dominate the whole gaming segment, wont develop better enhancements for processor and sell them at crazy prices. I truly want amd to give us something freakin awesome next time and avenge bulldozer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    yeah thats on LN2...the temps still not good

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    Good enough, it's pulling a 100%+, what more do you want?

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    Ivy should be warmer, will be interesting to see how it scales with cold. I also think that while it would suck much less power than SB at stock clocks, under max overclocks the power draw of IB should be similar if not higher. Tri-Gate coupled with 22nm allows impressively low voltages/power draw at stock though.

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    According to Overclockers UK, the Thermal Interface Material (TIM) used by Intel on Ivy Bridge is behind the Temperature issue. Previously, Intel used to fuse the Core Chip and the Integrated Heat-Spreader (top metal) together (old TIM). But with Ivy Bridge, instead of fusing together, they put Cheap Thermal Grease (new TIM) instead. Cheap Thermal Grease, disperses heat slowly, hence High Temperature. Overclockers UK did tests by carefully opening Ivy Bridge and swapping the Cheap Thermal Grease with Performance Thermal Grease, such as OCZ Freeze. End result was much cooler Temperature.

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    A Japanese tech site, "Impress PC Watch" pulled their processor apart, and above we can see the TIM used on the third generation Intel 'Ivy Bridge' processors. They have also replaced the Intel TIM with a couple others and had seen a dramatic result. At idle they didn't see much in the way of improvement, under a full processor load though it was a different story. By replacing the TIM, the load temperatures dropped by 11 degrees Celsius at stock settings. They also ran the Intel Core i7 3770K at 4.6GHz and saw a drop of 20 degrees! It's not clear why Intel choose to go this route, though it doesn't look like it was the best choice for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syeef View Post
    According to Overclockers UK, the Thermal Interface Material (TIM) used by Intel on Ivy Bridge is behind the Temperature issue. Previously, Intel used to fuse the Core Chip and the Integrated Heat-Spreader (top metal) together (old TIM). But with Ivy Bridge, instead of fusing together, they put Cheap Thermal Grease (new TIM) instead. Cheap Thermal Grease, disperses heat slowly, hence High Temperature. Overclockers UK did tests by carefully opening Ivy Bridge and swapping the Cheap Thermal Grease with Performance Thermal Grease, such as OCZ Freeze. End result was much cooler Temperature.

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    Total ripoff from Impress PC watch, they disclosed it two days after release day, lol.

    But yeah, if you have the balls to remove the front cover, temps won't be an issue for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    Total ripoff from Impress PC watch, they disclosed it two days after release day, lol.

    But yeah, if you have the balls to remove the front cover, temps won't be an issue for you.
    yeah..hope , u will be the pioneer.

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