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    Well, it was never a part of my plan but the way BDT is being screwed by USD, soon the DSLRs may be 2x as expensive. Even though I was planning to buy one after my HSC exam and after moving to our new apartment, continuously increasing dollar price is getting me concerned. The Nikon D90 which was priced at 76.5k back in June 2011 jumped to 79k in January 2011. But it skyrocketed past the 80s and right now its 97k! Source: Ryans Computers Ebook. That explains why I am in a hurry. Even though chances are low that I will be able to get my hands on one, its worth a try.

    I could do the researching myself but as I said, HSC is knocking on my door and I cannot spend hours for researching (reading reviews, comparing them, watching sample videos/photos etc.). Furthermore, the time is short and my brain cannot think from a neutral perspective as its kinda "now or never" type of situation. Right now I am considering the Nikon D3100 (56k). It has 23.1mm x 15.4mm 14.2MP sensor, 1080p video recording and 12-bit RAW output (can't expect 14/16-bit RAW from entry level DSLRs...). But the issue is, it does not support bracketing mode. Shooting HDRIs would be a pain in the a$$.

    So, please suggest me a DSLR within 60k which may be a better choice than Nikon D3100. Keep in mind that -
    • I want 1080p video shooting as I have no plan of buying a handycam in near future.
    • The larger the MP value the better but not by sacrificing the image sensor size (= dull details).
    • Higher bit depth on RAW images is also preferable (14 or 16-bit).
    • Bracketing mode should be present, as I shoot lots of HDRIs.
    • Its not at all a "must have" feature but higher continuous shot speed is always welcome.
    As Ryans Product Ebook is the only source I could easily get and they are listing DSLRs from Nikon only, I am unaware of other brands like Canon, Sony etc. Please also try to mention where I can get them including the shop's contact number.

    Thank you.
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    AVOID buying Dslrs from IDB, total 中中. do not worry about warranty so much, go to a proper camera shop. I have never purchased anything from Flora or JANS. P.s 90K for D90 is 中中, I paid about the same for my D7000 and that was when it first came out my D7000 is probably the first one to come in Bd as I got it a week later the launch.
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    Get the Canon 550D with the 18-55 IS for around 58k, quite better than the D3100. Well, actually this is the only choice you have rather than the D3100 within your budget. Oh and get it from Camera Zone or something, avoid buying from dealers. Zulk bhaia should be able to help about where to buy.

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    Ah... D7000... Only if I could get my hands on it... And D90 is 97k, not 90k. I still can't believe it! What's the problem with IDB (seriously, I don't know)?

    BTW... can you give me locations of a few "proper camera shops"? Or their contact number/website? Because the ones we have here in Uttara are bullshit. Can you get me one within my budget? I don't actually go out searching for shops that much (don't have time now) and my parents would... you know if I go out and start doing that now, so I guess I'm gonna need some help here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    Ah... D7000... Only if I could get my hands on it... And D90 is 97k, not 90k. I still can't believe it! What's the problem with IDB (seriously, I don't know)?

    BTW... can you give me locations of a few "proper camera shops"? Or their contact number/website? Because the ones we have here in Uttara are bullshit. Can you get me one within my budget? I don't actually go out searching for shops that much (don't have time now) and my parents would... you know if I go out and start doing that now, so I guess I'm gonna need some help here.
    fotoblaze and Camera Zone are quite good.

    fotoblaze is at Panthapath, contact 9104516.

    There are multiple Camera Zone showrooms, you can visit the one at HM Plaza as that's the closest for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eXsTatik View Post
    AVOID buying Dslrs from IDB, total 中中. do not worry about warranty so much, go to a proper camera shop. I have never purchased anything from Flora or JANS. P.s 90K for D90 is 中中, I paid about the same for my D7000 and that was when it first came out my D7000 is probably the first one to come in Bd as I got it a week later the launch.
    dude u paid abt 90K for D7000!..dats awesome i am in hunt for D7000,canon 60D and the big daddy canon 7D but the price that all matters....my budget is 5000Dhs(1lac Tk) well just can add little more...
    but 7d is i think waaay too much...the body only costs 1lac18K......so from where did u got the D7000? can u plzzzz tell...thanx

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    Overall D7k is generally better than 7d, for sports though 7d is much better since it has a higher burst rate and a big depth buffer, I used canons but never could like them, I prefer the feel of olympus camera's the best. D7000 image quality is quite a bit better than 7d especially in low light. P.s I wouldnt actually agree that the 550D is better than d3100, D3100 is an amazing little camera with a pos screen, the d3100 has a quite mode which is an anomaly for Budget Dslrs. The d3100 also has great low light performance since it also shares the new generation sony backlit sensors like the one found in the D7000 although the resolution is lower.

    Btw guys check out the D800 its a megapixel monster, never expected that from nikon. Nikon never really believed in overall MP count but rather they had better per pixel sharpness and noise compared to the competition, Nikon was far behind canon in the d80/200 era, but now there has been a 180 degree turn.
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    Well guys, I think 2 new competitors jumped into the game – Nikon D5100 and Canon EOS 550D. How do they compare to D3100? According to the facebook page of fotoblaze, D3100 costs about 54k, 550D about 58k and D5100 about 75k (all with 18-55 lens). I’m not worrying much about the lens right now as I can always upgrade it later on based on my taste.

    I spent nearly an hour comparing these three. To me, close up details looked the best on D5100 and 550D, D3100 smudged the details a little bit. Also, Nikon models tend to have more saturated yellows than Canon. I, however, don’t know how well they shoot video (D3100 can only shoot @24fps/1080p). Please advise. BUT – D5100 costs about 17k more. Its clearly out of my budget but … is it worth the extra charge? Battery life, boost ISO, cont shot framerate etc. differ though…

    Tomorrow, I am going to visit Camera Zone in HM Plaza as mentioned by @error ; let’s see what they have in stock.


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    if you are really into photography then buy the mid range models, otherwise i would suggest to buy d3100 and a decent lens. get yourself comfortable with them and later buy a high end one. 18-55 is ok but better get a 18-200 or similar kind. i am using a d60 since 2007. and as i dont do night photography, this camera still serves me well.

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    Well, the camera is the primary concern right now, will buy additional lenses later on if needed as I move onwards. I personally prefer Nikon, don't ask why. It may be their logo or their product names or whatever. But isn't the 550D a better choice than the D3100? Its only 4k more and "seems" more feature packed and obviously provide better close-up detail. I would have gone with the D5100 with my eyes closed but I am having second thoughts as its almost 15k over my budget and I'm not so sure if its gonna be a wise choice. I'm just a student and photography is my hobby (well, I think you guys know what I do)...

    I shoot almost all types of pictures ranging from portraits through landscapes to macro shots, but not so much at night. Those "flip out screens" mean nothing to me, quality is what I am after.


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    obviously 550d is better than d3100. i was actually trying to say features shouldnt be a measurement when you buy a dslr, they are needed but not necessarily should be the main preference. suppose in a bright daylight d60, d90, d700 will give you almost same picture. so it will depend on what kind of photography you actualy like to do. but you will have be careful about future also. nikon lenses are very expensive. really expensive. any prime lens costs beyond 500 (except 50mm). so you will have to keep it in mind. and dslr are not like mobile phone that 2 years later it will become obsolete. so my opinion is invest on better lenses than camera.

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    Compare at dpreview.com, @proton_chain .

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    obviously 550d is better than d3100. i was actually trying to say features shouldnt be a measurement when you buy a dslr, they are needed but not necessarily should be the main preference. suppose in a bright daylight d60, d90, d700 will give you almost same picture. so it will depend on what kind of photography you actualy like to do. but you will have be careful about future also. nikon lenses are very expensive. really expensive. any prime lens costs beyond 500 (except 50mm). so you will have to keep it in mind. and dslr are not like mobile phone that 2 years later it will become obsolete. so my opinion is invest on better lenses than camera.
    Not exactly ! D700 has way more dynamic range than d60 or D90 with D60 having the least, 550D is not better than D3100, 550D does have more options but D3100 as a camera 'feels' better. These review sites also make these camera's look like hardware -___-. In my opinion just buy the camera that fits your budget and that you like, all these technical mumbo jumbo will only get you so far, yes technically more expensive camera's will give you better results but lets be honest here unless its in extreme conditions there isnt much of a difference, by extreme conditions I dont only mean dim light harsh contrasty situations as well.

    Nikon primes are not that expensive and Nikon lenses generally perform better wide open then their canon brethren though canon does have a more flexible range of lenses on their lineup but nikon are catching up. BTW a prime example of an affordable prime would be the 35mm F1.8 DX, Awesome lens. 85mm lenses from both canon and nikon cost similar so do the wides so I do not get where your getting nikon lenses are uber expensive from this isnt leica.


    The D3100 is the best camera for the price trust me on this one, there is no significant difference from d3100 to 550D. The D5100 has the same sensor as the D7000 (which is the best DX sensor out there completely bashes anything in the DX format upto date)

    to me what more important than technical mumbo jumbo is the control layout, ease of use and the response of the camera these few things can really hinder your time shooting. the d3100 has a nice set of dedicated buttons for the price range.
    I have used the D3100 and I loved, its my favourite camera to date, its small its fast and takes great snaps, its quite too ! extremely quite !

    Rather than spending more on the 550D get a manual 50mm prime with the money you save they are cheap and perform great although you have to manually focus and meter but it is possible and I have done so myself. but if gimmicks like screen resolution, faster shooting rates (though both are extremely slow anyway) attract you then by all means do go for the canon.

    The d3100 does have a better Low light performance. the quite mode to me is attractive as you need to be very discreet when doing candid and journalism type of photography.

    I would also recommend you to look at 2nd hand stuff, my 2nd and 3rd camera were a 2nd had d70 and a d90 both were had at extremely cheap prices, but at the same time be careful when you purchase.
    Recently @Hemlock bought a pentax K-x for a really good price and IMO its better than both 550D and d3100

    pentax k-x has the D90's sensor and has 4.7FPS rate which is really good only has 720P video but is an awesome camera nonetheless. Its also much more responsive and better built, canon has the worst build btw, canon plastic bodies are POS where as oly pentax and Nikon have amazing plastic bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eXsTatik View Post
    Not exactly ! D700 has way more dynamic range than d60 or D90 with D60 having the least, 550D is not better than D3100, 550D does have more options but D3100 as a camera 'feels' better. These review sites also make these camera's look like hardware -___-. In my opinion just buy the camera that fits your budget and that you like, all these technical mumbo jumbo will only get you so far, yes technically more expensive camera's will give you better results but lets be honest here unless its in extreme conditions there isnt much of a difference, by extreme conditions I dont only mean dim light harsh contrasty situations as well.

    Nikon primes are not that expensive and Nikon lenses generally perform better wide open then their canon brethren though canon does have a more flexible range of lenses on their lineup but nikon are catching up. BTW a prime example of an affordable prime would be the 35mm F1.8 DX, Awesome lens. 85mm lenses from both canon and nikon cost similar so do the wides so I do not get where your getting nikon lenses are uber expensive from this isnt leica.


    The D3100 is the best camera for the price trust me on this one, there is no significant difference from d3100 to 550D. The D5100 has the same sensor as the D7000 (which is the best DX sensor out there completely bashes anything in the DX format upto date)

    to me what more important than technical mumbo jumbo is the control layout, ease of use and the response of the camera these few things can really hinder your time shooting. the d3100 has a nice set of dedicated buttons for the price range.
    I have used the D3100 and I loved, its my favourite camera to date, its small its fast and takes great snaps, its quite too ! extremely quite !

    Rather than spending more on the 550D get a manual 50mm prime with the money you save they are cheap and perform great although you have to manually focus and meter but it is possible and I have done so myself. but if gimmicks like screen resolution, faster shooting rates (though both are extremely slow anyway) attract you then by all means do go for the canon.

    The d3100 does have a better Low light performance. the quite mode to me is attractive as you need to be very discreet when doing candid and journalism type of photography.

    I would also recommend you to look at 2nd hand stuff, my 2nd and 3rd camera were a 2nd had d70 and a d90 both were had at extremely cheap prices, but at the same time be careful when you purchase.
    Recently @Hemlock bought a pentax K-x for a really good price and IMO its better than both 550D and d3100

    pentax k-x has the D90's sensor and has 4.7FPS rate which is really good only has 720P video but is an awesome camera nonetheless. Its also much more responsive and better built, canon has the worst build btw, canon plastic bodies are POS where as oly pentax and Nikon have amazing plastic bodies.
    Nikons ftw. \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by eXsTatik View Post
    Not exactly ! D700 has way more dynamic range than d60 or D90 with D60 having the least, 550D is not better than D3100, 550D does have more options but D3100 as a camera 'feels' better. These review sites also make these camera's look like hardware -___-. In my opinion just buy the camera that fits your budget and that you like, all these technical mumbo jumbo will only get you so far, yes technically more expensive camera's will give you better results but lets be honest here unless its in extreme conditions there isnt much of a difference, by extreme conditions I dont only mean dim light harsh contrasty situations as well.

    Nikon primes are not that expensive and Nikon lenses generally perform better wide open then their canon brethren though canon does have a more flexible range of lenses on their lineup but nikon are catching up. BTW a prime example of an affordable prime would be the 35mm F1.8 DX, Awesome lens. 85mm lenses from both canon and nikon cost similar so do the wides so I do not get where your getting nikon lenses are uber expensive from this isnt leica.


    The D3100 is the best camera for the price trust me on this one, there is no significant difference from d3100 to 550D. The D5100 has the same sensor as the D7000 (which is the best DX sensor out there completely bashes anything in the DX format upto date)

    to me what more important than technical mumbo jumbo is the control layout, ease of use and the response of the camera these few things can really hinder your time shooting. the d3100 has a nice set of dedicated buttons for the price range.
    I have used the D3100 and I loved, its my favourite camera to date, its small its fast and takes great snaps, its quite too ! extremely quite !

    Rather than spending more on the 550D get a manual 50mm prime with the money you save they are cheap and perform great although you have to manually focus and meter but it is possible and I have done so myself. but if gimmicks like screen resolution, faster shooting rates (though both are extremely slow anyway) attract you then by all means do go for the canon.

    The d3100 does have a better Low light performance. the quite mode to me is attractive as you need to be very discreet when doing candid and journalism type of photography.

    I would also recommend you to look at 2nd hand stuff, my 2nd and 3rd camera were a 2nd had d70 and a d90 both were had at extremely cheap prices, but at the same time be careful when you purchase.
    Recently @Hemlock bought a pentax K-x for a really good price and IMO its better than both 550D and d3100

    pentax k-x has the D90's sensor and has 4.7FPS rate which is really good only has 720P video but is an awesome camera nonetheless. Its also much more responsive and better built, canon has the worst build btw, canon plastic bodies are POS where as oly pentax and Nikon have amazing plastic bodies.
    you didnt read my writng carefully. i never said d700 and d60 are same thing, i said in any good condition you will get almost similar result whatever camera you use. obviously with same setting and controls. d700 has way better sensor than d60. d700 has more controls than any other low ends but what's the point for a hobbist?
    i personally own 35mm and 50 mm primes. 35 is not a usable lens. you have to go to very close to the subject (specially portraits) but with 50mm you can get better photos without getting too much nearer.

    canon lenses are almost 20-100 pounds cheaper than similar nikon ones. i dont know where did you get the info that nikon and canon lenses are priced almost same but not at least in uk. d3100 is perfect for new users and hobbist but i would say canon has better lenses.

    giving you some links from amazon. check it.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-NIKKOR...9773999&sr=1-1
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-S-5...9774036&sr=1-2
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-AF-S-7...9774172&sr=1-8
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-75-300...9774186&sr=1-3
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-50mm-F...9774172&sr=1-4
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-50-...9774186&sr=1-1

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    OMG... the debate is firing up... guess I have to postpone my decision until we reach a conclusion here. And all you guys are talking about just D3100 and 550D... what about the D5100 which is about 15k more? How do they compare to others in your opinion?

    And also think about lens availability and compatibility when deciding. Even though I am not buying one now (I wont even use the camera until June, just trying to grab one before the price goes straight through the roof), I may need them later. And also keep the "future proof" thingy in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by codename5302 View Post
    features shouldnt be a measurement when you buy a dslr, they are needed but not necessarily should be the main preference.
    By features I meant more dynamic range, better max light sensitivity, larger viewfinder, less shutter lag, higher cont shot framerate etc. Not "face detection" type of noobish things.

    Quote Originally Posted by error View Post
    Compare at dpreview.com, @proton_chain.
    That's where I compared their close up details shots (under the "compared to (RAW)" menu with different ISO levels).


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    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    OMG... the debate is firing up... guess I have to postpone my decision until we reach a conclusion here. And all you guys are talking about just D3100 and 550D... what about the D5100 which is about 15k more? How do they compare to others in your opinion?

    And also think about lens availability and compatibility when deciding. Even though I am not buying one now (I wont even use the camera until June, just trying to grab one before the price goes straight through the roof), I may need them later. And also keep the "future proof" thingy in mind.



    By features I meant more dynamic range, better max light sensitivity, larger viewfinder, less shutter lag, higher cont shot framerate etc. Not "face detection" type of noobish things.



    That's where I compared their close up details shots (under the "compared to (RAW)" menu with different ISO levels).
    if your budget allows then of course you should go for d5100. about those features you mentioned, are they really necessary for you? everything better? photography is an art, not a show off thing (pardon me to say this). if you have enough creativity any camera will serve you. i am just saying if you are really into photography then start with low end camera and decent lens, in future you will upgrade when you have enough knowledge and expertise.

    one thing i would like to mention, i think you know this as well, low end nikons dont have autofocus support for af-d lens, so you will have to rely on af-s lens which are really costly or manually focus, but if you go for d5100 (i dont know if it supports), then you can buy old afd lens and can save a lot of money.

    and sorry for making huge off topic things!!! it seems i always do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by codename5302 View Post
    about those features you mentioned, are they really necessary for you? everything better? photography is an art, not a show off thing
    Well, higher dynamic range will make editing easier as there will be less occasions where the highlights or shadows are clipped. You can't always shoot in HDR, can you (especially for portraits/moving objects)? And higher cont shot framerate is kinda important as I usually like to shoot kids and you know what they do... they move so fast. So I almost always end up with blurred hands or faces, unless I use flash (I hate flash).

    And... am I right about the camera prices going up in near future? Because if it stays as it is now for ... about 3-4 months, then there is no hurry and I can buy a higher end model (maybe even the D7000) afterwords.

    And you guys are recommending low end cam + high end lens rather than the other way round? Am I not sacrificing image quality this way? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not familiar with interchangable lens cameras.


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    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    OMG... the debate is firing up... guess I have to postpone my decision until we reach a conclusion here. And all you guys are talking about just D3100 and 550D... what about the D5100 which is about 15k more? How do they compare to others in your opinion?
    if u can afford the D5100...then just get it...it fits right between the D3100 nd D7000 like some features are same asD3100 and its also got some features from the D7000

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    Quote Originally Posted by codename5302 View Post
    i am just saying if you are really into photography then start with low end camera and decent lens, in future you will upgrade when you have enough knowledge and expertise.
    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post

    And you guys are recommending low end cam + high end lens rather than the other way round? Am I not sacrificing image quality this way? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not familiar with interchangable lens cameras.
    @codename5302 is right about something, the lens and the person looking thru the viewfinder do have more influence on the photo than the camera body. So, yes, go out there and check which of those in your budget attracts you the most when you get a hold of them. If you buy a camera that later on doesn 't fit in your hand as well as a similar counterpart from the competing manufacturer does, you 'll never be in love with it. What feels best in your hand and which attracts you most should be a big concern too.

    Don 't spend too much on the body now, move up the ladder as you gain experience. Yes, prices may increase in future when you plan to upgrade, but, remember, if prices continue to inflate at such rapid rates you 'll also get better resell value for what you purchase currently. I know ppl who bought the D3100 for 45k or less when it first hit the streets and have sold them recently for the same price, as the current market price is 54k!!!!

    The D3100 and 550Ds are both great cameras. I generally tend to prefer Nikons better for how they look, but there 's something about Canons which makes it hard to get rid of 'em. Long back, I had a 500D for a short period of time and i must say it 's undeniably more attractive than D3100s or the Pentax K-x that i have now. The high-res screen and the eye-sensor do tend to set initial impressions that drive you in their favour, but if you can get past that and start digging into the device, you 'll know where the D3100s and K-xs shine. I 'm saying this bcz the initial impressions are very important in determining your purchase, and in that department Canon will trump the similar entry-level offerings from other companies.
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