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    Default Wait for Cannonlake or buy Ryzen 1700?

    I have been using good old i5 4590 for the last 3 years and now I know Ryzen 1700 would be a perfect upgrade for me. But there is this Cannon-lake in Q3 release making me think twice about going for Team AMD.

    What do you guys think, move to ryzen now or wait for cannon-lake for mostly gaming and occasional amateur video editing?

    Thanks in advance!

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    LUL. cannon lake desktop aint coming soon.

    skylake e coming... maybe q4 this year or q1 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post
    I have been using good old i5 4590 for the last 3 years and now I know Ryzen 1700 would be a perfect upgrade for me. But there is this Cannon-lake in Q3 release making me think twice about going for Team AMD.

    What do you guys think, move to ryzen now or wait for cannon-lake for mostly gaming and occasional amateur video editing?

    Thanks in advance!
    By the time Cannon Lake is here you'd be starting to wait on Ryzen 2. Buy whatever is better today for today. Don't wait on the future.
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    The thing is, according to moor's law, you won't be seeing much improvements over each generation until we move on to quantum computing, which is still an active area of research. So waiting is useless, I bought 6700k last year and the performance improvement of 7700k over it is just minimal.

    The thing about tech is, there is alway a waiting game, u either buy it, or wait, by the time u plan to buy it, u will hear news of another generation knocking at the door. So in the end its what makes u happy. I bought 1080 sli and 6700k and i am really happy with its performance at 1440p.

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    the fact is when will we see ryzen processors in Bangladesh? the way things are going i think cannon lake will come faster here than the ryzen processors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post
    .... What do you guys think, move to ryzen now or wait for cannon-lake for mostly gaming and occasional amateur video editing? ....
    Add some more RAM to your build and wait another year or two.

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    your system is heavily bottlenecking ur monster. i recommend getting a i5 k or i7 k, or ryzen 5 series... although it would require a decade for ryz 5 and mobo to come to BD. ryzen will bottleneck your gpu in 1080p but i guess all 1070 buyers usually game in 1440p vsr. even i5 k will bottleneck your monster so u sohuld buy 7700k, it will never bottleneck a 1070 in any games.... considering one or two exceptions.

    having said that, i think that u are getting 60+fps in most AAA games with ur system right? i guess you can afford to wait then.... although its a personal choice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    your system is heavily bottlenecking ur monster. i recommend getting a i5 k or i7 k, or ryzen 5 series... although it would require a decade for ryz 5 and mobo to come to BD. ryzen will bottleneck your gpu in 1080p but i guess all 1070 buyers usually game in 1440p vsr. even i5 k will bottleneck your monster so u sohuld buy 7700k, it will never bottleneck a 1070 in any games.... considering one or two exceptions.

    having said that, i think that u are getting 60+fps in most AAA games with ur system right? i guess you can afford to wait then.... although its a personal choice...

    bottleneck with 1070? kon sense e ? if you are talking about one or two titles which are heavily cpu intensive then this is not your "heavily" bottleneck , ryzen didn't perform well on games with high end gpus either they are still behind on many i5's single threaded performance jodi na kono cpu intensive workstation pc er dorkar hoy taile his pc is more than enough to run anything on 60fps

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    Actually you have a decent system already & the worst part of your System is that Ancient Monitor .Don't waste any money on CPU ,Buy an Ultrawide or 1440p monitor(you are wasting that GPU on your crapy monitor .Only upgrade path i see is change your bottleneck i5 to R5 1600(6 core ) ,that will make most of your heavy cpu game smoother & won't cost much extra money for that replacement(considering you don't have 144hz option with 1070 so with 60,75hz Intel or Amd won't make much difference in FPS rate but Amd will give more smooth playing while i5 ,even i7 will show stutter in some games)
    Last edited by djrock; April 10th, 2017 at 22:07.

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    k u are right, except for very few modern titles it doesnt bottleneck 1070gtx according to gamegpu and techspot. he should buy some ssd and chill instead of buying new cpu right now, if he only cares about gaming.




    Quote Originally Posted by sensei View Post
    bottleneck with 1070? kon sense e ? if you are talking about one or two titles which are heavily cpu intensive then this is not your "heavily" bottleneck , ryzen didn't perform well on games with high end gpus either they are still behind on many i5's single threaded performance jodi na kono cpu intensive workstation pc er dorkar hoy taile his pc is more than enough to run anything on 60fps

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    Or You can Dump your whole 1080p setup & Move to True Native 4k setup like Scorpio

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    your system is heavily bottlenecking ur monster. i recommend getting a i5 k or i7 k, or ryzen 5 series... although it would require a decade for ryz 5 and mobo to come to BD. ryzen will bottleneck your gpu in 1080p but i guess all 1070 buyers usually game in 1440p vsr. even i5 k will bottleneck your monster so u sohuld buy 7700k, it will never bottleneck a 1070 in any games.... considering one or two exceptions.

    having said that, i think that u are getting 60+fps in most AAA games with ur system right? i guess you can afford to wait then.... although its a personal choice...
    Usually I play with vsync on and yes every game I play does it in 60fps now (without those 'advance graphics settings'). But should I go for a better CPU or 1440p monitor first that's the question. I might get comfortable with current setup if i don't change anything for awhile.

    If I Get a 1440p minitor, i would have to buy a multi-threaded CPU or vice versa to make the ends meet I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djrock View Post
    Actually you have a decent system already & the worst part of your System is that Ancient Monitor .Don't waste any money on CPU ,Buy an Ultrawide or 1440p monitor(you are wasting that GPU on your crapy monitor .Only upgrade path i see is change your bottleneck i5 to R5 1600(6 core ) ,that will make most of your heavy cpu game smoother & won't cost much extra money for that replacement(considering you don't have 144hz option with 1070 so with 60,75hz Intel or Amd won't make much difference in FPS rate but Amd will give more smooth playing while i5 ,even i7 will show stutter in some games)
    Good point, but don't you think getting a 1440p monitor would ultimately require a good multi-threaded CPU to make the run smoother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensei View Post
    the fact is when will we see ryzen processors in Bangladesh? the way things are going i think cannon lake will come faster here than the ryzen processors
    That I am wondering too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billybuoy View Post

    Good point, but don't you think getting a 1440p monitor would ultimately require a good multi-threaded CPU to make the run smoother?

    That I am wondering too!
    Higher resolution use less CPU & More GPU ,So 1080p is kind of the worst Torture level for your CPU currently ,1440p will not need more threads or anything but yes there are few games which do better with 8 threads & Your i5 has 4 threads .So i7 or R5 is your upgrade option to reduce that bottleneck or any stutter .Next time sell the 1070 & buy a Vega .It might help you get rid of Vsync & use free sync(with proper monitor )
    Last edited by djrock; April 11th, 2017 at 01:36.

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    A Core i5 4590 is indeed a bottleneck for the GTX 1070, as you aren't able to utilize it's full potential. But since you don't need to tap into your GPU's untapped potential and you're perfectly happy with getting just 60 FPS as you clearly don't care about the advanced graphics features, don't bother getting a CPU upgrade for now. I feel it's safe to assume that the couple of dips here and there in framerate that are referred to as "minimum FPS" doesn't change your overall gaming experience. And for 1440p, you'll be fine. Get the SSD. If gaming's your primary concern, you won't see much of a difference switching to a RyZen 1700 if any. However, overclock that 1700 to say about 3.8 GHz with 3200 MHz of DDR4 RAM and you're in business. There will be the odd title where RyZen's performance will suffer, but it's an excellent CPU overall. I may have been trolling with a bunch of retarded AMD fanboys in the RyZen thread but I'll give credit where it's due. Right now though, AMD+nvidia isn't a good combination as there's clearly some work to be done.



    This video paints a clearer picture of what can be expected from the RyZen CPUs. The Kabylake CPUs have the clock speed advantage of about 800 MHz, and is more of the standard platform for most games and software out there. I encourage you to take a look at the numbers.
    Last edited by Fox Mulder; April 11th, 2017 at 06:07.

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    I prefer Tea over Coffee and I am offended by the name Coffee Lake.

    Why can't we have Lipton Taza Lake or Ispahani Lake?

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