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    Default i5 2400/GTX560/RAM discussion

    i'm going to buy intel pc this friday or the next friday after it.

    1)what is the current price of core i5
    2310?
    2400?
    2500?

    2) does a h61 mobo supports 1600mhz gaming ram without bottlenecking it? if it doesnt,then does h67?

    3) Is there any h67 mobo available below 8k? there is a h67 at ryans site showing 8k but a guy from another shop told me h67 is not available below ~10k now

    pliz help!

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    taratari kino felo bhai..next mnth theke,per dollar may be ≤90taka >_<

    ---------- Post added at 19:50 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ----------

    and h61 mobos dont support 1600mhz rams,and even if u get some 1600mhz rams,its gonna be down clocked to 1333mhz which imo is enough.

    ---------- Post added at 19:56 ---------- Previous post was at 19:50 ----------

    and no h67 will run at 1600 with SB(the one's you want to buy..i.e- non k series) because h67 doesn't support overclocking and 1600 is an overclocked speed for SB. 1600 ram will still work but it will be downclock to 1333.

    ---------- Post added at 19:57 ---------- Previous post was at 19:56 ----------


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    Quote Originally Posted by xTypIcaL.saIyaNx View Post

    and h61 mobos dont support 1600mhz rams,and even if u get some 1600mhz rams,its gonna be down clocked to 1333mhz which imo is enough.and no h67 will run at 1600 with SB(the one's you want to buy..i.e- non k series) because h67 doesn't support overclocking and 1600 is an overclocked speed for SB. 1600 ram will still work but it will be downclock to 1333.
    cpu 2500 mone hoy 18~19k er moddhe nai....so 2400 e nibo but mobo niye problem e porsi....1600mhz ram o jodi bottleneck hoye jay to jamu koi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    cpu 2500 mone hoy 18~19k er moddhe nai....so 2400 e nibo but mobo niye problem e porsi....1600mhz ram o jodi bottleneck hoye jay to jamu koi?
    LOL koi ar jaben 1600mhz chinta baad diye 1333mhz marka ram kinen bhai..In real world usage temon konoi difference paben na between them...dual channel 1333mhz ram kinen arame thakben Im also trying to get a i3 2100 but daam to dekhii khali bartei ache,so ja korar taratari korte hobe >_<

    ---------- Post added at 20:10 ---------- Previous post was at 20:06 ----------

    apnar ki 1600mhz ram kina ache?? I guess kono bottleneck hobee na and instead down clocked hobe to match your mobos fsb frequency

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    kintu koyekta friend 880gm mobo te 1333 bodle 1600 lagay onek benefit paise...ejonne gaming ram kinte chassilam :/ amd 6k er mobote 1600 bottleneck hoy na intel e hoy ken? :?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    kintu koyekta friend 880gm mobo te 1333 bodle 1600 lagay onek benefit paise...ejonne gaming ram kinte chassilam :/ amd 6k er mobote 1600 bottleneck hoy na intel e hoy ken? :?
    It depends on the MOBO and CPU(tomar frnder cpu is unlocked and that mobo can oc thats why they can use those 1600mhz rams) , and yes some CPUs will not benefit or use the faster RAM, and yes faster frequency RAM can be run at lower speeds. Oddly for example, the SB CPUs seem to in some cases actually perform worst with the 1866 or 2133 MHz speeds, and there's almost zero gain with >1333 MHz frequencies, so spending 400% more on some RAM is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xTypIcaL.saIyaNx View Post
    It depends on the MOBO and CPU(tomar frnder cpu is unlocked and that mobo can oc thats why they can use those 1600mhz rams) , and yes some CPUs will not benefit or use the faster RAM, and yes faster frequency RAM can be run at lower speeds. Oddly for example, the SB CPUs seem to in some cases actually perform worst with the 1866 or 2133 MHz speeds, and there's almost zero gain with >1333 MHz frequencies, so spending 400% more on some RAM is crazy.
    you mean phenom II x4 can support 1800mhz ram bus speed right? and sandy bridge 2400 can't support over 1333 properly? :'(
    then i should just go for a simple h61 or h67?
    btw shob h67 e ki next generation ivy bridge support krbe?


    btw its not 400% more.... only 150-200%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    kintu koyekta friend 880gm mobo te 1333 bodle 1600 lagay onek benefit paise...ejonne gaming ram kinte chassilam :/ amd 6k er mobote 1600 bottleneck hoy na intel e hoy ken? :?
    There's no such thing called gaming RAM. Your friends must have had a placebo, the only difference 1600 RAM would show is in benchmarks, you won't gain a nickle going from 1333 to 1600 when gaming. FYI SB IMC is rated at 1333 (JEDEC spec), but those G.Skill Ripjaws/Corsair Vengeance have special profiles built into the chip, which can be read my supported INTEL platforms, to enable speeds like 1600/1866/2133 & CAS 6/7/8/9 which is more known as XMP (Xtreme Memory Profile).

    Whereas the Phenoms are rated at a max 1333, but can usually operate at 1600 given that you have the appropriate modules. For e.g, in my case: I've been using 4x2GB XPG 1600 modules on my system, this does have an impact though when overclocking it won't be as stable say when you are working with only 2(two) sticks. The newer Zambezi(Bulldozer) IMC is rated upto 1866, and can work with speeds as high as 2166. But AMD platforms don't have this XMP feature, so when you buy those high end RAM, most of the time you've to set it manually to its spec (voltage/cas latency/frequencies)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    you mean phenom II x4 can support 1800mhz ram bus speed right? and sandy bridge 2400 can't support over 1333 properly? :'(
    then i should just go for a simple h61 or h67?
    btw shob h67 e ki next generation ivy bridge support krbe?
    btw its not 400% more.... only 150-200%
    I also don't support buying high profile motherboards if you are not a overclocker.
    For me a ECS or Gigabyte H61 would do..

    Dual channel 1333Mhz would be enough for me for a Core i5 2400.

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    By gaming RAM he meant the overclockable ones that runs with tight clocks, not the regular ones we buy, quality never comes cheap, neither does performance, if I had the ability I would've bought myself a pair of G Skill RiPJAWS or the Corsair Vengeance, even if you can't get to overclock the memory, you can surely run them at much tighter timings at stock\below stock speeds, say 6-6-6-18 at 1333 Mhz bus, half the people can't get the max out of their memory modules (for average users who aren't keen on messing with clocks or timings within the bios, or voltages) because most of them use the settings that the motherboard suggests which is most of the time considered as "safe" settings and not optimal settings, heck I gotta pair of Kingston Value Ram @1066 Mhz running dual channel and gotta score of 6.4 in windows' experience index rating just by looking up the timings from the manufacturer's website and setting up the bios accordingly, moral: spending on quality memory modules aint a waste.

    Edit: Ignore this post, I misread half the posts that are above.
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    Well, i used ADATA XPG and Ripjaws, now im using normal Twinmos 1333, trust me, i DID NOT notice a single bit of performance improvement in gaming. Not a single (1) FPS increase!

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    Better memory doesn't help you boost your FPS in gaming, but it helps to load faster and lessen hitches and hiccups.

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    i didnt actually understand dipanzans posts but i got it,h61/h67 will do.
    btw what is the price of h67 currently?8k,right?

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    @taher fuŽious™ , your friends use AMD and AMD benefits from tight timings [i.e. CL8/CL7] more than Intel does.
    So there're some improvements.

    And since you're gonna buy Intel,don't worry about RAMs.

    ---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------

    @Taher fuŽious™ , your friends use AMD and AMD benefits from tight timings [i.e. CL8/CL7] more than Intel does.
    So there're some improvements.

    And since you're gonna buy Intel,don't worry about RAMs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    i didnt actually understand dipanzans posts but i got it,h61/h67 will do.
    btw what is the price of h67 currently?8k,right?
    What benefits would you get from a H67 over H61?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    What benefits would you get from a H67 over H61?
    2ta sli port ase...ivy bridge o ektu better support krbe i guess...but not sure :/

    ---------- Post added January 18th, 2012 at 00:38 ---------- Previous post was January 17th, 2012 at 23:48 ----------

    i just came to p67 supports oc ram fully without bottlenecking

    Question is what is the lowest price of p67 mobo?
    how much is this mobo cost?

    http://www.smart-bd.com/products.htm...category_id=75

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    asus ekta p67 ase ~12K

    smart er kisu stock nai website dekhe lav nai

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    Taher bhaiya, why would you need 1600MHz RAM anyway? 1333MHz ones are cheap as dirt, better spend the extra money on something which you will be benefited from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fuŽious™ View Post
    2ta sli port ase...ivy bridge o ektu better support krbe i guess...but not sure :/

    ---------- Post added January 18th, 2012 at 00:38 ---------- Previous post was January 17th, 2012 at 23:48 ----------

    i just came to p67 supports oc ram fully without bottlenecking

    Question is what is the lowest price of p67 mobo?
    how much is this mobo cost?

    http://www.smart-bd.com/products.htm...category_id=75
    Oh boy, 2 ta sli port doesnt mean that it would give you both x16 and x16 bandwidth respectively rather it will give you x8 and x8 bandwidth mode when you install 2 gfx card in H67. And no better support for Ivy Bridge. You will only get better support of Ivy bridge in Panther point (intel 7x series) chipsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @bhi View Post
    asus ekta p67 ase ~12K

    smart er kisu stock nai website dekhe lav nai
    too much...i cant pay over 9k for mobo

    ---------- Post added at 07:45 ---------- Previous post was at 07:43 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Taher bhaiya, why would you need 1600MHz RAM anyway? 1333MHz ones are cheap as dirt, better spend the extra money on something which you will be benefited from.
    oc ram use koira koyek friend er performance slightly barse to... ejonne,
    and gpu nibo gtx 560

    ---------- Post added at 07:46 ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Infracted View Post
    Oh boy, 2 ta sli port doesnt mean that it would give you both x16 and x16 bandwidth respectively rather it will give you x8 and x8 bandwidth mode when you install 2 gfx card in H67. And no better support for Ivy Bridge. You will only get better support of Ivy bridge in Panther point (intel 7x series) chipsets.
    mane h61 e sli/crossfirex performance full pawa jabe na?
    7x er budget nai :/

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