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    So yeah,I was thinking of getting a new CPU+GPU+MOBO+RAM within 1 lacs.But the problem is when I convert the prices from amazon/new egg they fit in my price range but UCC charges a hella lot more than I expected.

    Example:
    The gtx 980 Ti,a beast GPU:
    http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-980TI-...rds=GTX+980+TI

    COSTS ABOUT 50K if converted to BDT

    but:

    on ucc this same exact card costs:
    http://ucc-bd.com/msi-nvidia-geforce...96-mhz-oc.html
    72K

    This is impossible to deal with,and I've heard from my friends that amazon doesn't ship to bangladesh.. :/
    Anyone know where I can get these at the perfect price?


    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovelizer View Post
    So yeah,I was thinking of getting a new CPU+GPU+MOBO+RAM within 1 lacs.But the problem is when I convert the prices from amazon/new egg they fit in my price range but UCC charges a hella lot more than I expected.

    Example:
    The gtx 980 Ti,a beast GPU:
    http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-980TI-...rds=GTX+980+TI

    COSTS ABOUT 50K if converted to BDT

    but:

    on ucc this same exact card costs:
    http://ucc-bd.com/msi-nvidia-geforce...96-mhz-oc.html
    72K

    This is impossible to deal with,and I've heard from my friends that amazon doesn't ship to bangladesh.. :/
    Anyone know where I can get these at the perfect price?


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    50K? 980TI? Nowhere in Bangladesh. However, contact @VANGUARD . He should hook you up with a discount. On other note, Fury X (link) has better pricing.
    Last edited by kaziishan; December 22nd, 2015 at 21:00.

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    no,not UCC.every pc h/w parts is expensive here in BD.
    have a look:
    http://pcworldrajshahi.com/342/PC-Ha...C#.VnlYRauweUk

    http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-384-Bi...ds=asus+980+ti

    also when u r comparing BD price with amazon u need to consider 100 taka/$that's the way it is.& FYI amazon does ship to Bangladesh.but,custom handling is too difficult to handle often when u have no one representative to do the dirty custom clearance job.
    Last edited by Speed; December 22nd, 2015 at 21:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovelizer View Post
    So yeah,I was thinking of getting a new CPU+GPU+MOBO+RAM within 1 lacs.But the problem is when I convert the prices from amazon/new egg they fit in my price range but UCC charges a hella lot more than I expected.

    Example:
    The gtx 980 Ti,a beast GPU:
    http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-980TI-...rds=GTX+980+TI

    COSTS ABOUT 50K if converted to BDT

    but:

    on ucc this same exact card costs:
    http://ucc-bd.com/msi-nvidia-geforce...96-mhz-oc.html
    72K

    This is impossible to deal with,and I've heard from my friends that amazon doesn't ship to bangladesh.. :/
    Anyone know where I can get these at the perfect price?


    Thanks.

    You are just converting the US retail price, but that's not how the business works. There are a lot of things to consider.

    First off, UCC orders the Graphics cards from the manufacturer (MSI in this case) as they are the official/authorized sellers in BD. Here you convert the US price, although UC will get a much lower price per unit since they are the authorized distributor (they are ordering in large quantities directly from the manufacturer). Then the cards are shipped to BD, so there are the shipping costs. And when it reaches Bangladesh, UCC has to pay customs tax (or import duty), that also adds up to the price. Also according to VANGUARD (UCC Asst. Manager) they also have to pay 4% VAT with the each sale.
    And finally there is UCC's own profit added up, so they can profit and also maintain their business (like paying their staff, etc..). Besides UCC is known to have higher prices than other BD importers anyway (there was a thread on this recently).

    So that's the basically why the prices are so high in a (huge) nutshell. This applies to almost any business in BD which imports stuff from a foreign manufacturer.



    You can contact @VANGUARD , he might give you a small discount from UCC . He also knows why price of computer parts are so high in BD. Also if you want the 980 Ti for a lower price then contact @minitt who imports stuff from Amazon (and other places), you can't expect a price like 50k but you can save a little money, do note that you won't get any warranty like you would with UCC. @Ehsas might also help.

    If you want the lowest price then the only option is if someone you know lives in the US, and is coming to BD, they can get it for you in their luggage so there is no shipping cost or tax. But even in this case you won't get warranty.

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    But graphics cards (or a part of those) are made in countries like China, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico etc so the companies need to pay for shipping and also add the profit to their selling price even when selling them in countries like USA and Canada then why do ppl get the privilege of much lower price in those countries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    You are just converting the US retail price, but that's not how the business works. There are a lot of things to consider.

    First off, UCC orders the Graphics cards from the manufacturer (MSI in this case) as they are the official/authorized sellers in BD. Here you convert the US price, although UC will get a much lower price per unit since they are the authorized distributor (they are ordering in large quantities directly from the manufacturer). Then the cards are shipped to BD, so there are the shipping costs. And when it reaches Bangladesh, UCC has to pay customs tax (or import duty), that also adds up to the price. Also according to VANGUARD (UCC Asst. Manager) they also have to pay 4% VAT with the each sale.
    And finally there is UCC's own profit added up, so they can profit and also maintain their business (like paying their staff, etc..). Besides UCC is known to have higher prices than other BD importers anyway (there was a thread on this recently).

    So that's the basically why the prices are so high in a (huge) nutshell. This applies to almost any business in BD which imports stuff from a foreign manufacturer.



    You can contact @VANGUARD , he might give you a small discount from UCC . He also knows why price of computer parts are so high in BD. Also if you want the 980 Ti for a lower price then contact @minitt who imports stuff from Amazon (and other places), you can't expect a price like 50k but you can save a little money, do note that you won't get any warranty like you would with UCC. @Ehsas might also help.

    If you want the lowest price then the only option is if someone you know lives in the US, and is coming to BD, they can get it for you in their luggage so there is no shipping cost or tax. But even in this case you won't get warranty.
    +1

    & just a side note.if u r planning to buy from amazon u will have to pay even more than the retailers asking price locally.amazon 1$=105 taka.highest is 120 taka & lowest is 95 taka.that depends on the amount of $ person ordering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    +1

    & just a side note.if u r planning to buy from amazon u will have to pay even more than the retailers asking price locally.amazon 1$=105 taka.highest is 120 taka & lowest is 95 taka.that depends on the amount of $ person ordering.

    I didn't get your message properly. But about getting from Amazon, I mentioned @minitt , who imports stuff for 90tk/$ (+Shipping+Tax) , and my estimation is that it's cost you around ~61k + Custom duty which is lower than what UCC is asking. Also if someone is going and getting it then you can get it for lower as 1$=~79tk (if the internet speaks the truth).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also, to my previous post on why the price is high, I want to add that the price for GPU in BD is much higher than other hardware parts, this is because of low demand. Not everyone is a gamer, and more importantly there is much fewer gamers willing to buy expensive GPU like the 980Ti, so the price is often kept higher due to lower sales. Compared to CPU's for example which are sold like 80tk/$ .

    Also since I'm not related to the business, I can not assure that my understanding of such business is 100% accurate, but this is what I've heard and understood from people who are related to importing stuff.
    So I have a question on those who are related to this stuff, How can CPU's have so much lower tk/$ ? They are more sold but then again what about shipping and customs, are those really that low for CPUs ?? (sorry if this is a bit OT)

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    I think I talked about this before, also for cards like 980 Ti I think the warranty would be required who knows. You should take Vanguards discount if you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    +1

    & just a side note.if u r planning to buy from amazon u will have to pay even more than the retailers asking price locally.amazon 1$=105 taka.highest is 120 taka & lowest is 95 taka.that depends on the amount of $ person ordering.
    do you honestly think that? i can get you any 980Ti you want at less than 105/$ at around 87-92. although a lot has to do with timing of the order though. but yes unless it's some special deal and the price is cut almost by 100$ then it's better to just buy it from here and have the warranty rather than spend a bit less. (unless ofcourse you have no problems claiming intl warranty that is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahnaf_i7X View Post
    But graphics cards (or a part of those) are made in countries like China, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico etc so the companies need to pay for shipping and also add the profit to their selling price even when selling them in countries like USA and Canada then why do ppl get the privilege of much lower price in those countries?
    Volume of sales. people buy as much high end gpus there in north america as with almost the rest of the world combined. so it's shipped in massive amounts not to mention they have free trade deals done with various countries so many products do not face any import taxes like they do in europe and asia which is why the prices are higher here. and also obviously the low volume of shipments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    do you honestly think that? i can get you any 980Ti you want at less than 105/$ at around 87-92. although a lot has to do with timing of the order though. but yes unless it's some special deal and the price is cut almost by 100$ then it's better to just buy it from here and have the warranty rather than spend a bit less. (unless ofcourse you have no problems claiming intl warranty that is).
    i don't understand what u r trying to say.but,from what i understood if someone is willing to buy product personally like minitt.then that is his/her personal profit margin factor.the amount 105 taka rate is just a baseline for amazon shops in bd like "shop r" & other that exist in facebook.
    personally i don't buy any single electronic computer equipment from BD anymore(at least in terms of pc hardware)reasons are obviously ridiculous pricing & also rma hassle.
    warranty is a set back for obvious reason.but,i can live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    i don't understand what u r trying to say.but,from what i understood if someone is willing to buy product personally like minitt.then that is his/her personal profit margin factor.the amount 105 taka rate is just a baseline for amazon shops in bd like "shop r" & other that exist in facebook.
    personally i don't buy any single electronic computer equipment from BD anymore(at least in terms of pc hardware)reasons are obviously ridiculous pricing & also rma hassle.
    warranty is a set back for obvious reason.but,i can live with that.
    What @minitt does is pretty much the same as what Shopr does if I'm not wrong. @minitt just offers a better price, and that means less profit for him than Shopr makes. Also, in Shopr, afaik the tk per $ reduces when you order products of higher price. But @minitt seems to offer 90tk per $ for most products I've seen in BG that he imports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    What @minitt does is pretty much the same as what Shopr does if I'm not wrong. @minitt just offers a better price, and that means less profit for him than Shopr makes. Also, in Shopr, afaik the tk per $ reduces when you order products of higher price. But @minitt seems to offer 90tk per $ for most products I've seen in BG that he imports.
    & what is ur point exactly once again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    & what is ur point exactly once again?
    Well, you first said that when you're getting from Amazon or an online shop you need to pay more, or 105tk/$ , I just wanted to say that you can get for cheaper through @minitt . That was simply my point. As I mentioned before I didn't quite properly get what you said in post#6 so pardon me if my interpretation was completely wrong of what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    Well, you first said that when you're getting from Amazon or an online shop you need to pay more, or 105tk/$ , I just wanted to say that you can get for cheaper through @minitt . That was simply my point. As I mentioned before I didn't quite properly get what you said in post#6 so pardon me if my interpretation was completely wrong of what you said.
    first of all i know what minitt & shop r is offering & how they work.second i was just trying to make the OP understand that he is not going to get the product shown in amazon price & nowhere near.
    lastly i don't care about what minitt & shop r offers.bcoz i can get the product at the exact online price.just need to wait a bit longer than usual to get the product
    finally i think u just misunderstood me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    first of all i know what minitt & shop r is offering & how they work.second i was just trying to make the OP understand that he is not going to get the product shown in amazon price & nowhere near.
    lastly i don't care about what minitt & shop r offers.bcoz i can get the product at the exact online price.just need to wait a bit longer than usual to get the product
    finally i think u just misunderstood me.
    Okay, I misunderstood what you tried to say. My bad.

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    Dear Shove, there are many costs heads which are applicable for BD market. US/Other Overseas market doesn't have such cost factors. Just for an example we have 8.5% customs duty while US has got 0% customs duty. Then you add 4% government tax. Then you add company overhead. Then you ensure dealer margin. And overall cost of doing business in BD is quite higher and we have to give margin to multiple distribution layer to make the goods available to end customer while in US you see the online prices from first-hand e-tailers. Moreover, due to bigger market size they can get much much better price than us from the manufacturer. Thanks for your understanding.

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    Ah I remember a good time when Gov't didn't monetize with shipping or product taxes. Just made sense of buying stuff, now we're forced to spend that kind of money as joining a consumer trend even then later realizing we could have used the money on better things or things of necessity. I hate this economy, not only Bangladesh but everywhere else, big dollar dollar bill doesn't mean anything if you can't make stability with low expenses. Like the fact that I hate Uttara cause everything here is extra beefed in price, grocery products like chips, drinks and so on have extra pricing. Not to mention we're paying extra for electricity, food and water. Boring town with a hard on for more penchant for the officials monetizing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Ah I remember a good time when Gov't didn't monetize with shipping or product taxes. Just made sense of buying stuff, now we're forced to spend that kind of money as joining a consumer trend even then later realizing we could have used the money on better things or things of necessity. I hate this economy, not only Bangladesh but everywhere else, big dollar dollar bill doesn't mean anything if you can't make stability with low expenses. Like the fact that I hate Uttara cause everything here is extra beefed in price, grocery products like chips, drinks and so on have extra pricing. Not to mention we're paying extra for electricity, food and water. Boring town with a hard on for more penchant for the officials monetizing here.
    Bro the entire Dhaka city is expensive not just Uttara. Atleast the traffic is much better in Uttara then rest of Dhaka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun12ka4 View Post
    Bro the entire Dhaka city is expensive not just Uttara. Atleast the traffic is much better in Uttara then rest of Dhaka.
    You're not getting my point, also try staying here. ISPs won't give you over 4mbps below 2k price range at all, Redbulls costing 160tk in Bashundhara supermarket while it costs 190tk over here in local stores and market.

    You wanna talk about traffic? We have broken roads, dogs or people defecating on the streets. I see people's fecal matter on the goddamn streets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    You're not getting my point, also try staying here. ISPs won't give you over 4mbps below 2k price range at all, Redbulls costing 160tk in Bashundhara supermarket while it costs 190tk over here in local stores and market.

    You wanna talk about traffic? We have broken roads, dogs or people defecating on the streets. I see people's fecal matter on the goddamn streets
    dude that's everywhere was a surprise when i first came here but now kind of got used to it...the traffic, broken roads, dogs and people defecating on the streets etc happen in both dhanmondi 32 and banani 11 so relax everyone equally has it bad

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