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    I have started to play Legacy of the Void Campaign. At first, game was running smoothly while the amount of unit was low. After passing 6-7 missions (when unit numbers are high) game start to lag terribly. I think my outdated rig (core i3 3220, HD 5670 although its above minimum requirement but well below recommended ) is the reason.

    While I didn't bother to update cause only played sc2 and moba for last two years, I think it is high time to do it. I want to do the update in such a way that I can play play sc2 lotv in ultra settings (1080p) and wont have to update again for at least 3 years for medium-high settings in other games.

    I have tried to search for gpu benchmark of sc2 lotv in internet but found nothing.

    So suggest me a gpu and cpu (if it is ONLY required for sc2).

    Thanks in advance.
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    Your CPU is fine, just turboboost the damn thing and presto. As for GPU, get something like 750 Ti or R7 360 2GB ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    I have started to play Legacy of the Void Campaign. At first, game was running smoothly while the amount of unit was low. After passing 6-7 missions (when unit numbers are high) game start to lag terribly. I think my outdated rig (core i3 3220, HD 5670 although its above minimum requirement but well below recommended ) is the reason.

    While I didn't bother to update cause only played sc2 and moba for last two years, I think it is high time to do it. I want to do the update in such a way that I can play play sc2 lotv in ultra settings (1080p) and wont have to update again for at least 3 years for medium-high settings in other games.

    I have tried to search for gpu benchmark of sc2 lotv in internet but found nothing.

    So suggest me a gpu and cpu (if it is ONLY required for sc2).

    Thanks in advance.
    A budget and your current config would be helpful. Maybe upgrade to an i5 and something like the r7 370?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Your CPU is fine, just turboboost the damn thing and presto. As for GPU, get something like 750 Ti or R7 360 2GB ?
    Are you confident enough it will smoothly run sc2 1080P (ultra) with my current cpu? Then I am more than happy to buy 750ti due to no need for extra psu.

    Quote Originally Posted by MusharratC View Post
    A budget and your current config would be helpful. Maybe upgrade to an i5 and something like the r7 370?
    Do I need to provide additional information about my current config (cpu and gpu are already provided)?

    My budget is ~30K(GTX 970 or equivalent) excluding psu for gpu and ~15K (upgrade to 3rd generation i5, don't want to change mobo to avoid complexity) for CPU at Max.

    I have no intention to overkill. I didn't play any games besides sc2 and moba for last two years. My brother sometimes plays AAA title but its very rare and when he does he has no intention for max out graphics details. He will be happy just to play the game in a reasonable resolution and details.

    So the reason for my upgrade solely depend on playing SC2 lotv in ultra(1080p). If I had found a benchmark of lotv in internet it would be easier but didn't able to find any.

    .......................

    Currently using 4 GB ram and non branded psu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    Are you confident enough it will smoothly run sc2 1080P (ultra) with my current cpu? Then I am more than happy to buy 750ti due to no need for extra psu.



    Do I need to provide additional information about my current config (cpu and gpu are already provided)?

    My budget is ~30K(GTX 970 or equivalent) excluding psu for gpu and ~15K (upgrade to 3rd generation i5, don't want to change mobo to avoid complexity) for CPU at Max.

    I have no intention to overkill. I didn't play any games besides sc2 and moba for last two years. My brother sometimes plays AAA title but its very rare and when he does he has no intention for max out graphics details. He will be happy just to play the game in a reasonable resolution and details.

    So the reason for my upgrade solely depend on playing SC2 lotv in ultra(1080p). If I had found a benchmark of lotv in internet it would be easier but didn't able to find any.

    .......................

    Currently using 4 GB ram and non branded psu.
    Get a core i5 (I would suggest a secondhand), get another 4GB RAM (again you should go secondhand). Even if you buy new ones, it should not cost more than 18K. Then, get a decent psu with a GTX 950. I would suggest Tt TR2 500W (4,850/=) and a MSI GTX 950 (17,600/=). Contact @VANGUARD , he should set you up with some discount. You will get more than a decent 1080p gaming system.

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    Today I sent my brother to buy GTX 950 and Tt TR2 from UCC.

    He called me from IDB, said "Nothing is showing in the monitor and UCC said 3rd gen i3 and 2nd gen gigabyte mobo wont support GTX 950 ".

    Then suggested him to buy 4th gen i3 and mobo.

    I suggested my brother to buy 4th gen i5 cause upgrading from 3rd gen i3 to 4th gen i3 is useless.

    Before doing it, I called @VANGUARD bro for confirmation and knew that my current config actually support gtx 950.

    Then I told my brother just to return home with the purchased card and psu.

    Any suggestion what to do next ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    Today I sent my brother to buy GTX 950 and Tt TR2 from UCC.

    He called me from IDB, said "Nothing is showing in the monitor and UCC said 3rd gen i3 and 2nd gen gigabyte mobo wont support GTX 950 ".

    Then suggested him to buy 4th gen i3 and mobo.

    I suggested my brother to buy 4th gen i5 cause upgrading from 3rd gen i3 to 4th gen i3 is useless.

    Before doing it, I called @VANGUARD bro for confirmation and knew that my current config actually support gtx 950.

    Then I told my brother just to return home with the purchased card and psu.

    Any suggestion what to do next ?
    Check your motherboards pcie slot.

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    And if you plan to upgrade go for 6th gen processor and motherboard. Preferably MSI B150 Night Elf and i5 6500. Full package in less than 24k

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    My god UCC said it won't support 2nd Gen Intel CPU and 2nd gen PCIe Slot? What else did they say? Their products spits out fairy dust to make us wish for faster performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Check your motherboards pcie slot.
    Updating the bios does the trick here.But another problem rises. GPU fans stop rotation after 30s of pc starting. Is it normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    My god UCC said it won't support 2nd Gen Intel CPU and 2nd gen PCIe Slot? What else did they say? Their products spits out fairy dust to make us wish for faster performance
    Instead of fooling noob like us by suggesting worthless upgrade they should know more about bios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    Updating the bios does the trick here.But another problem rises. GPU fans stop rotation after 30s of pc starting. Is it normal?
    This is ZeroRPM Technology. Fan stops completely when there is low load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    Instead of fooling noob like us by suggesting worthless upgrade they should know more about bios.
    Well, actually nobody expects someone might run a 2nd Gen Maxwell in an ancient H61. Imagine you are a seller, I own Core2 Duo with G31. I want to buy a FuryX. Although theoretically it will support, what would you suggest me then?

    On Topic: They probably tried to say that you need PCIE 3.0 slot to run PCIE 3.0 GPU. They should have known that 3rd Gen processors enables PCIE 3.0 even in second gen motherboards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    This is ZeroRPM Technology. Fan stops completely when there is low load.
    thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post


    Well, actually nobody expects someone might run a 2nd Gen Maxwell in an ancient H61. Imagine you are a seller, I own Core2 Duo with G31. I want to buy a FuryX. Although theoretically it will support, what would you suggest me then?

    On Topic: They probably tried to say that you need PCIE 3.0 slot to run PCIE 3.0 GPU. They should have known that 3rd Gen processors enables PCIE 3.0 even in second gen motherboards.
    Imagined you have core 2 duo e8600. You need to upgrade your platform to z97/b85 for gpu I am thinking. Will never suggest you pentium g3258(almost no upgrade in performance).

    I have no problem about suggesting better platform, but I have with processor(4th gen i3 from 3rd gen i3).

    If upgrading platform is necessary, cpu should be updated acoordingly. Just like this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post

    And if you plan to upgrade go for 6th gen processor and motherboard. Preferably MSI B150 Night Elf and i5 6500. Full package in less than 24k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    thanks.



    Imagined you have core 2 duo e8600. You need to upgrade your platform to z97/b85 for gpu I am thinking. Will never suggest you pentium g3258(almost no upgrade in performance).

    I have no problem about suggesting better platform, but I have with processor(4th gen i3 from 3rd gen i3).

    If upgrading platform is necessary, cpu should be updated acoordingly. Just like this one:
    That's true but G3258 can overclocked to 4.8-5.0Ghz, which makes it substantially better than E8600. But i agree, upgrading from i3 to i3 is unwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    Instead of fooling noob like us by suggesting worthless upgrade they should know more about bios.

    UCC said 3rd gen i3 and 2nd gen gigabyte mobo wont support GTX 950
    আপনে জ্যা নুব আপনার কথা বাত্রায় বুঝা যায়। কিসব আজিরা 3rd gen 2nd gen i3 লাগায় রাখসেন? অইগুলার কয়টা core জানেন? চাইরটা আসে তাও আবার দুইখান ল্যাংড়া। একটা 8350 নিতেন তাইলে বুঝতাম, কয়টা coreS জানেন? ... আআআঠটা coreS... পুরা আআআআআঠটা।

    All jokes aside, it is kind of common practice from the IDB people. Giving information about BIOS - nah! I wouldn't expect that from them. Even, one of my friend bought a PC from there and they installed the OS with some really janky drivers on his hdd. For example, he had a r7 260X with Nvidia driver.

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    Your core i3 should be enough for the game that you are talking about and I think GPU is the main bottleneck here so change it if you can. About motherboard, well if you are using a H61, it should support PCI-e 3.0 if you install a 3rd gen i5/i7 but for i3, regardless of generation it should run at 2.0 because that's the what is supported by the processor at best.

    Does it matter? For single mid to high end card, no it doesn't.

    Another thing if you want to update the processor, make sure your board supports that processor officially, for example there are some H61 boards out there that do not support 95W TDP processor, not officially.

    Again, Do you need to change the processor? I don't think so.

    I'm not sure how much you are willing to spend for PSU and GPU but if you are aiming for GTX950, that should be fine, however what I have found personally is some of the newer card's bios contradicts with older board's bios, but there are many H61 with UEFI bios which should be fine for running such a card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    Your core i3 should be enough for the game that you are talking about and I think GPU is the main bottleneck here so change it if you can. About motherboard, well if you are using a H61, it should support PCI-e 3.0 if you install a 3rd gen i5/i7 but for i3, regardless of generation it should run at 2.0 because that's the what is supported by the processor at best.

    Does it matter? For single mid to high end card, no it doesn't.

    Another thing if you want to update the processor, make sure your board supports that processor officially, for example there are some H61 boards out there that do not support 95W TDP processor, not officially.

    Again, Do you need to change the processor? I don't think so.

    I'm not sure how much you are willing to spend for PSU and GPU but if you are aiming for GTX950, that should be fine, however what I have found personally is some of the newer card's bios contradicts with older board's bios, but there are many H61 with UEFI bios which should be fine for running such a card.
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,10.html

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    VANGUARD Bro, u are proving your statement wrong yourself. Gen 1.1 > Gen 3.0 what is the score difference??? 288. And FPS difference??? 2.68 FPS. Now what do you have to spent to get this??? well you know the answer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marfi View Post
    He called me from IDB, said "Nothing is showing in the monitor and UCC said 3rd gen i3 and 2nd gen gigabyte mobo wont support GTX 950 ".
    Are they kidding ??why 950 cant support? :O my 2nd gen p67 mobo can support 9 series GPu with no issue. even G41 mobo has support.
    I have to say LOL to UCC aka hoobs. did they plug in 6 pin power connector on the card.

    i3 3220 nice cpu and most of the game rarely using more that 4 cpus,u just need good gpu with more than 2 gb mem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumit Pramanik View Post
    VANGUARD Bro, u are proving your statement wrong yourself. Gen 1.1 > Gen 3.0 what is the score difference??? 288. And FPS difference??? 2.68 FPS. Now what do you have to spent to get this??? well you know the answer...
    If 2.68 FPS does not matter to you, then overclocking cpu is not for you, overclocking gpu memory is not for you, buying 3200mhz ram instead of 3000Mhz is not for you, using 1Ghz FCLK is not for you, even buying R9 380 instead of 960 or buying 390X instead of 390 is not for you.

    You need shave off every single bit of bottlenecks within your pc, you need to maximize the absolute full potential of your rig, every 0.1 FPS should matter to you. Then and only then you will be able to see a sum of 5-8 FPS more than the others owning the same/equivalent hardwares. Pardon me but i am a purist. Every bit of gainable FPS does matter to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Well, actually nobody expects someone might run a 2nd Gen Maxwell in an ancient H61. Imagine you are a seller, I own Core2 Duo with G31. I want to buy a FuryX. Although theoretically it will support, what would you suggest me then?

    On Topic: They probably tried to say that you need PCIE 3.0 slot to run PCIE 3.0 GPU. They should have known that 3rd Gen processors enables PCIE 3.0 even in second gen motherboards.
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    Wow! Much discussion on buyer-seller interaction that noone here were even present at! My take? I think the seller just wanted to get inside Marfi's brother's wallet. Yeah, the buyer might have specific criteria for his purchase but doesn't hurt to twist their minds to get a bigger paycheck right? And people're doing what every good employee does, defending his employer. Let's carry on to other matters please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Really? Did you notice that the card they are using is a 980 and we are talking about a 950 here. If 980 goes to 76 from 77 the 950 ain't going nowhere, maybe a fraction in the worst case.

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