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    Default Intel Non-K Skylake processors will support Overclocking

    Successful overclocks are being preformed on non-K skylake processors and single core performance are somewhat surpassing stock i7(even some K-series). News is the overclocking capabilities of these non-K processors are blocked by the BIOS, so a simple bios update could make the cpus overclockable.

    So far, ASRock motherboards are going to get a confirmed BIOS update for enabling non-K oc. And, Asus might release updated BIOS/new motherboard lines featuring H, B and Z series which will support non-K overclocking(But, not confirmed yet).

    If you are feeling adventurous, here is the ASRock Z170 OC Formula BIOS for non-K overclocking.

    Performance of various non-K Intel Skylake CPUs on ASRock Z170 OC Formula

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    Performance of an Intel core i3 6100 @ 4.7GHz on an ASRock Z170 Gaming K6+


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    Link: http://www.techspot.com/review/1108-...-overclocking/
    Link: http://overclocking.guide/overclocki...ormance-tests/
    Link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9848/b...rs-coming-soon


    On other note, VANGUARD
    has an ASRock Board. He should OC an i3 and try to break this record.
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    But the question is who on earth would even buy an ASRock OC formula and not buy a K series processor to go with it? i mean come on!

    It's good to see it out on H series one though, MANY people recently have been buying the ASUS H170 PRO gaming motherboard as of late, and it will be a nice boost to all the people that have bought it if asus does give an update for it.

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    I am worried about AMD actually. I did not think that I would see the day that an AMD flagship CPU getting wrecked by a core i3 . Though Zen is around the corner but seriously? 8000 series is technically still the flagship CPU line for AMD and it's brutal that the current core i3 can perform better when overclocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaziishan View Post
    I am worried about AMD actually. I did not think that I would see the day that an AMD flagship CPU getting wrecked by a core i3 . Though Zen is around the corner but seriously? 8000 series is technically still the flagship CPU line for AMD and it's brutal that the current core i3 can perform better when overclocked.
    The ZEN is coming (SW: RETURN OF THE JEDI), and the BCLK is returning (SW: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK), lets wait for NEW HOPE
    My probable next build: Qisan MagicForce 68 (Outemu switch) / Teamwolf Zhuque+ 87 TKL (Outemu) / Monoprice Select series full size (Outemu/Gateron) / Drevo Gramr 84 TKL (Outemu) • Logitech G102 Prodigy • Deepcool Dukase V3 / Thermaltake Versa U21 • Superlux HD 681 • Creative Sound Blaster E1 • LG 22MP68VQ • SteelSeries QcK • Generic executive chair • others TBA

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    Finally I can clock the i5 6500 Although BCLK used to affect RAM speed as well, which was another thing to take care of after i7 came which made RAM embedded -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Finally I can clock the i5 6500 Although BCLK used to affect RAM speed as well, which was another thing to take care of after i7 came which made RAM embedded -_-
    The PCIe and all the other 'things*' has separate 'bclk or whatever*' now. So, changing BCLK of the CPU will affect almost nothing but the cpu clockspeed.

    *quotation marks are for things I actually forgot; just so you know what I mean

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    Default List of Motherboards Supporting non-K Skylake overclocking

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    Default Digital Foundry released Game Performance of overclocked core i3 6100

    Overclocked core i3 6100 (4.4GHz) is beating stock core i5 2500K and 3570K (with lower speed memory) and it's on par with a stock 4690K.


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    But it is not guaranteed that all i3 would achieve 4.4ghz.

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    Yeah but doesn't hurt to spend extra 3k-5k on 2 more physical cores. I think 6400 or 6500 would be a good choice for getting most out of the CPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Yeah but doesn't hurt to spend extra 3k-5k on 2 more physical cores. I think 6400 or 6500 would be a good choice for getting most out of the CPU
    i would go for 6500. Also, those who are in my facebook might have noticed that at first i myself bought 6500. But non-k overclocking was not available at that time so i sold that and bought 6600k. I regret now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    i would go for 6500. Also, those who are in my facebook might have noticed that at first i myself bought 6500. But non-k overclocking was not available at that time so i sold that and bought 6600k. I regret now.
    Haha, Lel I don't know If I should spend more to buy your CPU or wait for Zen? I think my A8 6600K clocked at 4.7Ghz will bode well for next year

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    Default Core i5 6500 OC performance tested by Digital Foundry

    Digital Foundry tested Intel Core i5 6500 BCLK overclocking. They yielded 4.5GHz at 1.3V (so, a good cooler is needed). However, it was going head to head (in most cases) with a core i7 6700K and was beating somewhat easily a core i5 6600K (both K-cpus being at stock speed).


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    Default SuperMicro Brings the First H170 Motherboard with BCLK Overclocking Support

    SuperMicro brings up the game and releases an H170 motherboard with BCLK OC support for non-K Skylake CPUs.

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    i like their green coloured zseries board, nice seeing another colour scheme aside from the usual black/white/red/yellow so will be easier to make an all green build now.

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    Wow... 1st generation i7 corresponding xeons still give good fight.
    X5650 (32nm 6core ht 95w) @4.4ghz vcore 1.34v , scores 1028 in cinebench r15

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    So, SuperMicro recently has released an H170 board with BCLK OC support, but it's not going to be a bed of roses for all the H-series or B-series boards. And companies like Asus & MSI are not planning on bringing any non-Z motherboards with BCLK OC support for reliability issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asus (from Tom's Hardware)
    In addition to the problems mentioned above, Asus stated that motherboards using modified chipsets to enable overclocking will also lose support for some instruction sets, and any non-Z170 boards designed to overclock would have significant reliability issues, resulting in numerous CPU and motherboard failures.

    An Asus representative told us that to develop and sell these motherboards to its users would therefore damage its standing among PC enthusiasts. Asus made it clear that it felt producing motherboards with modified chipsets would be a huge liability, and that it would be irresponsible and a disservice to its loyal customers. Suffice it to say that you should not expect to see any motherboards designed to overclock from Asus on the LGA1151 socket with the exception of the enthusiast Z170-chipset boards.
    Quote Originally Posted by AsRock (from Tom's Hardware)
    Asrock took the opposite approach by already announcing two H170 motherboards, one B150 motherboard and one C232 chipset motherboard with overclocking features. Asrock said that these systems would lose support only for Turbo Boost and C-states, and although it was unable to resolve these issues, Asrock felt that it should release these motherboards because customers want them.
    Quote Originally Posted by MSI (from Tom's Hardware)
    When we asked MSI about developing non-Z170 overclocking motherboards, the company expressed concern about the reliability and loss of features that comes with modifying those chipsets. The company said that it doesn't have any current plans to release motherboards with overclocking features outside of its Z170 chipset systems, but it is currently testing the idea and might release some non-Z170 motherboards designed to overclock if it sees strong demand from consumers.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMicro (from Tom's Hardware)
    Unlike the other motherboard OEMs we spoke to, Super Micro discovered a way to enable overclocking on an H170 chipset without losing Hyper-Threading support. Super Micro said it was actually the first motherboard OEM to develop a motherboard with a non-Z170 chipset capable of overclocking Skylake CPUs. Its C7H170-M H170 motherboard has been available on the market for roughly three weeks now.
    The C7H170-M is priced comparably to Z170 motherboards, but it proves that overclocking Hyper-Threaded CPUs on an H170 motherboard is possible without losing the extra CPU threads, and we will likely see more of these boards from Super Micro in the future. The system still loses support for C-states, but as we stated above, many enthusiasts will consider this an an acceptable loss, as they would disable power saving features anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gigabyte (from Tom's Hardware)
    Gigabyte didn't have much to say on this topic, and it did not say if it would release motherboards with these modified chipsets or not.
    Link: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ove...ets,30962.html

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    Originally Posted by Gigabyte (from Tom's Hardware)
    Gigabyte didn't have much to say on this topic, and it did not say if it would release motherboards with these modified chipsets or not.

    Only pussies talk like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    Originally Posted by Gigabyte (from Tom's Hardware)
    Gigabyte didn't have much to say on this topic, and it did not say if it would release motherboards with these modified chipsets or not.

    Only pussies talk like this.
    Vai, didn't you face problems while OCing on their Z-series motherboards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaziishan View Post
    Vai, didn't you face problems while OCing on their Z-series motherboards?
    Yes. Severe problem. At first though it was just bios problem, but later it was found that the circuit design of power delivery is flawed. And the bios was buggy as hell even after several updates. But honestly saying, i have used GIGABYTE before, the previous GIGABYTE and todays GIGABYTE are not of the same quality.

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