Hhhhmmm do I have to rummage to find the old Semphron I used or the Athlon XP 2000+ ?
Also copyright Intel but has AMD logo on it, so basically AMD basically was Intel's b***h before now
Can't remember where but I saw an article where written that, most advanced technologies were introduced by AMD, but unfortunately they are unable to get the market as Intel always does.
You can read up more here if you want.
True, and as far I can remember, there was a heat problem with AMD's CPU. still this day I do believe AMD has to look at their heatsink. The stock heatsinks are the worst. I have seen 56 duron processor just burned out of 80 in a single organization. If it is a case for one organization in Bangladesh, think about the whole world.
But what I don't understand, why Intel CPUs are so expensive compared to AMD's.
And AMD has lost so much market share to intel that now intel has the liberty to charge whatever price they want. They literally have zero competition in the high-end market.
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I wouldn't say they are pricing it too much either, AMD has to price theirs less because they are crap. There is zero reason for Intel to compete in price-competition when they have the superior processor.
I do agree that Intel hasn't been improving as much, but I would not say their processors are not worth the $. Heck, they can change the TIM in their current lineup and market it as a refresh and it would still be worth the money lol.
I disagree sort of with Aayman yet again, brace yourself people it's happening
Since when is 10% IPC boost in the last 5 years a good thing? even for OCing, hell I was rooting for Skylake till the bending and the fact my friend who owns a full tower liquid cooling system said Skylake gets hotter being OC'd than Haswell after trial with his i5 6700K
AMD just do well enough for performance/price ratio. Not Piledriver and I still don't get why they are selling Piledriver CPUs, crap is worse than Phenom II. Money would be on Steamroller now or new Excavator that's coming. Intel doesn't get competition because people forgot what performance/price ratio actually was for the last 5 years
Single thread is not that bad for Piledriver, per say if you're using C2Q Q9650 even though there are people who are still using that old architecture. It does above 20% of performance better but what sucks is the multi thread actually. 70% single thread performance compared to i5s now and it can't pull up a beastly performance enough to kick Intel out, also their memory controller is dated, write speed sucks.
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How is the priceerformance even better with AMD? Pretty much everything is faster with Intel and they maintained steady prices for the top performance they offered (in a way, improving the ratio because performance did get better)
AMD can only work on the price side of the ratio. A processor is not something you change every two years, you can spend $120 on crap and console yourself with the ratio, or $200 for much better performance (with comparable ratio) on something you will probably use for 5 years.
Also the chip bending problem, I believe that was shown to be an issue with the design on the heat-sink installed and did not maintain Intel specifications. I'm not sure if a full blown investigation has been done yet.
I have no clue what you actually meant by that, if you mean OC capability ask JayZtwocents. He OC'd a C2D upto 6Ghz and was running it stable for years.
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And 10% improvement from each generation is what I meant to say, sorry for the confusion.
Are you serious about the compatibility bit? I feel like you didn't understand what I said and definitely not what the problem is. Usually for most third-party coolers, you don't need to re-buy the whole package, you can simply buy the new mounting bracket.
Read the latest update here: http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-skylake...-some-coolers/
If third party designs don't adhere to specifications, how would Intel guarantee compatibility. Not a question
Doesn't matter to me if Intel is still ahead of the curve
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To add to all the argument about price/performance ratio. A toyota would be way ahead than a porsche in price/performance upto 100kM/h. But some people do want to go upto 300kM/h, which the toyota simply cannot do.
If only intel had some real competition like how porsche has.
I'm not going to argue price: performance any further because you obviously just value the low $ amount.
I would share your views if Intel started charging $500 for normal i7s with similar improvements, but given that what they have now, I don't see why anyone looking to buy a medium spec and above PC should consider anything else.
on of the great achievement of AMD is AMD64 cpu architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
But after Phenom AMD failed to deliver that.....
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