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    Question athlon II x2 overclocking

    msi 740gm p25
    athlon II x2 250 3.0ghz
    4gb ddr3
    xfx 4850 xxx edition
    delta 550watt
    win7 32 bit
    My cpu cooler is ordinary hitsink+fan combo which comes with the cpu

    The mobo manual said the processor can be overclocked upto 30%.There is also a overclock switch with the mobo.I want to overclock my cpu from 3.0 ghz to 3.5ghz or higher.Now my question is

    1)how safe is it to overclock without a good branded cooler?

    2)how to overclock the cpu?I dont know anything about cpu overclocking so describe full process

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    increase your fsb by 15-20% from bios.
    then your ram bus may be oc'ed also. but don't oc ram. so if it increased decrease the system memory multiplier to keep the ram bus at stock.
    keep the voltages auto.
    then check system stability for an hour with some burn test.

    that's the beginner level oc steps. have to do it through motherboard bios that varies from manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    increase your fsb by 15-20% from bios.
    then your ram bus may be oc'ed also. but don't oc ram. so if it increased decrease the system memory multiplier to keep the ram bus at stock.
    keep the voltages auto.
    then check system stability for an hour with some burn test.
    that's the beginner level oc steps. have to do it through motherboard bios that varies from manufacturers.
    how to burn test?

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    Download intel burn test by AgentGOD

    http://www.xgamingstudio.com/files/IntelBurnTest.zip

    This is far superior than the Prime95 test and will confirm whether you've a healthy overclock or not, just make sure you set the number of tests to 9999 and leave it running for atleast two or three hours, if it fails to continue the test and you happen to have BSOD or lock ups or the program itself stopping saying that the processor can't produce correct results at all times, lower the overclock a little or try raising the voltage up by a few notches and you should be good, and of course don't forget to monitor your processor's temperature, anything above 70 degrees isn't acceptable.

    Off topic, how much VRAM do you've on that 4850 card of yours?
    Last edited by Fox Mulder; January 1st, 2012 at 14:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    increase your fsb by 15-20% from bios.
    then your ram bus may be oc'ed also. but don't oc ram. so if it increased decrease the system memory multiplier to keep the ram bus at stock.
    keep the voltages auto.
    then check system stability for an hour with some burn test.

    that's the beginner level oc steps. have to do it through motherboard bios that varies from manufacturers.
    Abir bhaiya, while I appreciate you guys helping a fellow member to overclock, but that board is very crippled & it's a low end MSI 7xx board. VRMs are best a 3+1 design of a very low quality. Though it's fine OCing an Athlon X2, chances are that the board will just give up during stress testing.

    For stressing the CPU, I would recommend:

    Prime95, LinX, Intel Burn Test. Just google these for links.

    EDIT: Sorry, the Athlon X2s cant be unlocked, but it's safe to assume that the board is not very suitable for OCing, thus my recommendations still stands OP get a better board if you can, as for temperatures, 70C is what you should be looking at, for the upper range.
    Last edited by dipanzan; January 1st, 2012 at 15:20.

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    Whoah! I'm mostly using BG Mobile and I can't see gadget lists most of the time if I don't switch to BG Full, dipanzan, are you saying these flimsy MSI 7XXX motherboards would pop under the pressure if you just unlock and put stress to ensure stability? Hell, then overclocking it, is risky too, even if it is an Athlon ll

    Edit: my bad, the OP did list his mobo, somehow I failed to notice.
    Last edited by Fox Mulder; January 1st, 2012 at 15:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romulus_ut3 View Post
    Whoah! I'm mostly using BG Mobile and I can't see gadget lists most of the time if I don't switch to BG Full, dipanzan, are you saying these flimsy MSI 7XXX motherboards would pop under the pressure if you just unlock and put stress to ensure stability? Hell, then overclocking it, is risky too, even if it is an Athlon ll

    Edit: my bad, the OP did list his mobo, somehow I failed to notice.
    I'm afraid so, the MSI 7xx boards uses a shoddy VRM design, & the board you are looking at is a very undermined one. If it were a Phenom-II X4, say my CPU i.e a 955BE, it would just give up during the stress. Any 125W CPU & overclocking on a board that is rated up to 95W is just asking for trouble. I'll give you a link if you want, there are numerous stories of failure for these MSI boards.

    Even the 8xx is not an exception, you'll be surprised to know that even the high end 890FX GD70 is installed with a sub par 4+1 VRM design & that too is dangerous for these CPUs. This problem is somewhat fixed on the 9xx MSI boards, but even then the low end ones suffer from these failures.

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    :'( 3.3ghz e oc koratao ki khub risky for my mobo? @dipanzan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fu展ous™ View Post
    :'( 3.3ghz e oc koratao ki khub risky for my mobo? @dipanzan
    Accha, if you insist try Overclocking in small steps & stress with Prime95. Download "HWMonitor" & carefully note the MOSFET temperatures. I don't know if your board came with heatsinks for the MOSFETS, if it's bare then the temperature should run a little high. Take care so that it doesn't not reach higher levels like 80C+. When stressing, you can point a fan towards the MOSFETs to optimize airflow, but the stock AMD fan already does that.

    Post HWMonitor screenshots while Overclocking, oh & you can use AMD overdrive to see temperatures too.

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    A 300 Mhz overclock is not gonna make too much of a difference! I advice not to risk it man's if you could gain like a 800 or 500 Mhz atleast then it would've made a bit of difference.. But I doubt with this mobo, you won't be able to get that much.

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    tahole r overclock krtesi na apatoto.... 760gm p33 kinle ki overclock kore safe hobe?

    ---------- Post added January 2nd, 2012 at 17:49 ---------- Previous post was January 1st, 2012 at 18:14 ----------

    bumping questions

    1)760gm p33 kinle ki overclock kore safe hobe?

    2)processor temperature continously dekhar jonne kono software ase?like "GPU-Z" ?

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    ans 2. You can use realtemp for cpu temp monitoring. Google it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    ans 2. You can use realtemp for cpu temp monitoring. Google it
    i found this in their website
    "Reads temperature information from all Intel Core based processors. Pentium 4 processors are not supported. "

    Amd cpu temp read krte parbe to?

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    Use CPU ID hardware monitor or Motherboard monitor software that came bundled with the driver disk.

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    bro u mean this? http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/1.18-setup.exe
    mobo er dvd khuje passi na

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fu展ous™ View Post
    tahole r overclock krtesi na apatoto.... 760gm p33 kinle ki overclock kore safe hobe?

    ---------- Post added January 2nd, 2012 at 17:49 ---------- Previous post was January 1st, 2012 at 18:14 ----------

    bumping questions

    1)760gm p33 kinle ki overclock kore safe hobe?

    2)processor temperature continously dekhar jonne kono software ase?like "GPU-Z" ?
    That 760 won't be much of an upgrade from your current 7xx. Besides MSI low end boards (esp AMD) are horrible. Look for a Gigabyte 8xx, such as a 880 board. I hope they are within 4-6K, they are very good value boards & should clock your Athlon to 3.5+ with ease. I don't know how good the stock cooler is for the Athlon, but the BE (Black Edition) stock coolers are fantastic, but very noisy at higher RPM levels. Keep your temps within 62.5C (max 70C), & starting overclocking accordingly.

    Softwares to measure the temperature of your CPU:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    ans 2. You can use realtemp for cpu temp monitoring. Google it
    RealTemp does not support AMD Processors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fu展ous™ View Post
    i found this in their website
    "Reads temperature information from all Intel Core based processors. Pentium 4 processors are not supported. "

    Amd cpu temp read krte parbe to?
    It can't, RealTemp does not have support for any AMD processor, CoreTemp is what I'll suggest. If you own an INTEL setup, RealTemp is very nice.
    Last edited by dipanzan; January 2nd, 2012 at 23:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    That 760 won't be much of an upgrade from your current 7xx. Besides MSI low end boards (esp AMD) are horrible. Look for a Gigabyte 8xx, such as a 880 board. I hope they are within 4-6K, they are very good value boards & should clock your Athlon to 3.5+ with ease. I don't know how good the stock cooler is for the Athlon, but the BE (Black Edition) stock coolers are fantastic, but very noisy at higher RPM levels. Keep your temps within 62.5C (max 70C), & starting overclocking accordingly
    thnx for the software.

    Q1) pc-carnival e gigabyte mobo sell kore na...idb er kon dokane gigabyte mobo+cpu kinbo?i dont want to buy from smart

    Q2)ekta motamuti bhalo cooler er daam koto? 3k er niche konota ase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fu展ous™ View Post
    thnx for the software.

    Q1) pc-carnival e gigabyte mobo sell kore na...idb er kon dokane gigabyte mobo+cpu kinbo?i dont want to buy from smart

    Q2)ekta motamuti bhalo cooler er daam koto? 3k er niche konota ase?
    Sorry I don't know the names of the Shops, look around in IDB. ONIX might have them, btw you are also upgrading the CPU ? What would be your total budget ? About the cooler, there's none in BD that too for 3K. You can look in your Gears Exchange forum for a CoolerMaster 212+/EVO, these should be within 4K, but I don't know of any cooler below 3K. The CoolerMaster 212+ costs $20 in newegg, see if you can bring it from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Sorry I don't know the names of the Shops, look around in IDB. ONIX might have them, btw you are also upgrading the CPU ? What would be your total budget ? About the cooler, there's none in BD that too for 3K. You can look in your Gears Exchange forum for a CoolerMaster 212+/EVO, these should be within 4K, but I don't know of any cooler below 3K. The CoolerMaster 212+ costs $20 in newegg, see if you can bring it from there.
    nahh tahole cooler kinbo na ...pore jokhon cpu upgrade dibo tokhon mobo o kinbo... thnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher fu展ous™ View Post
    i found this in their website
    "Reads temperature information from all Intel Core based processors. Pentium 4 processors are not supported. "

    Amd cpu temp read krte parbe to?

    sorry man, i thought it reads every single processor. Then Hwmonitor it is.


    As for overclocking, you can see this guide
    Last edited by Raziel; January 4th, 2012 at 18:15.

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