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Thread: Samsung: No room for ICS on Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab

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    The Samsung Galaxy S smartphone and 7-inch Galaxy Tab will not receive the latest version of Android, because Samsung has said its custom TouchWiz user interface, not Google's operating system, is too taxing on the hardware.

    Android device makers like Samsung and others apply their own user interface elements to Google's free, open-source Android operating system on handsets, tablets and other devices to differentiate themselves from the large number of Android products on the market. On Samsung's devices, this "experience enhancing" software is called TouchWiz.

    But it's the addition of TouchWiz to Android that will keep popular devices like the Samsung Galaxy S from running Android 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich," according to The Verge. Though the Galaxy S has a speedy 1GHz Hummingbird processor and enough memory for ICS, Samsung has revealed the software update won't be coming to that device, which sold more than 10 million units last year.

    But the Galaxy S sports the same internal hardware as Google's Nexus S smartphone, and Nexus S owners can already obtain Android 4.0 through an over-the-air update.

    "Samsung addresses that inconsistency by again pointing to the differing software provision; the Nexus S only has to run the basic Android OS, whereas the Galaxy S has to deliver TouchWiz, carrier services, video calling software, and, in some markets, mobile TV," wrote Vlad Savov.

    That stands in contrast to Apple, which this year kept around its iPhone 3GS, first released in 2009, with a free update to iOS 5. Meanwhile, Android phones often ship with an outdated version of Google's mobile operating system, and the systems are also rarely updated, even during the original contract term of the handset.



    Blogger Michael Degusta revealed in October that 45 percent of Google's installed base of active Android users were stuck using software released in the middle of 2010. That's because handset makers like Samsung, HTC, Motorola and others do not make those updates available to phones, and users cannot circumvent their inaction without "rooting" their handset.

    Samsung's explanation for why Galaxy S and 7-inch Galaxy Tab users won't get ICS comes soon after Motorola and Sony Ericsson also told customers they would not be able to update to Android 4.0.

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    Ahhh when will they learn.

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    Tarporo jodi Android niye jara ato lafalafi kore tara kichhu bujhto, tahole tomar eikhane post korata sharthok hoto. 8hrs. hoye gese kono reply nai, keu rep dey nai. Android user ra dekhe chupchap palay boshe ase. Eita Apple er kono phone er bepare hoile dekhta ei same user rai koto gula post korto to bash Apple.
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    I previously used to think of android as a ''wallet-friendly'' OS, which would give you the ability to experience the latest stuff on your ancient gadget but the ICS update just changed the way i used to to think. And apple made iOS 5 possible on the 3GS with a 600mhz CPU, whereas samsung couldn't run ICS even on 1Ghz and the worst part with like no new ground-breaking feature except the face unlock . Don't know about you guys but me dissappointed. And the most ironic part is that the Nexus S with pretty much the same specs will get the ICS update whereas Galaxy S won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlock View Post
    Tarporo jodi Android niye jara ato lafalafi kore tara kichhu bujhto, tahole tomar eikhane post korata sharthok hoto. 8hrs. hoye gese kono reply nai, keu rep dey nai. Android user ra dekhe chupchap palay boshe ase. Eita Apple er kono phone er bepare hoile dekhta ei same user rai koto gula post korto to bash Apple.
    Ami to post korar age onekkhon chinta korlam je korbo naki korbo na, lokjon kharap mone korte pare 3GS e iOS5 er onek kisui missing so it's not a fair comparison. My complain is that touch wiz thingy, why not just remove it? And check out that article from The Verge, really sums things up nicely.

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    Galaxy S update korbe na ? What were they thinking. SE decided to give all their 2011 devices ICS, starting with the Arc. Don't know about HTC, or Motorola.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Galaxy S update korbe na ? What were they thinking. SE decided to give all their 2011 devices ICS, starting with the Arc. Don't know about HTC, or Motorola.
    Motorola is giving it to the RAZR, Bionic and Xoom tablets only, but all of them are many months away.

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    Motorola, Sony Ericsson explain to customers why they won't get the new Android 4.0 for monthsBy Daniel Eran Dilger
    Published: 05:13 PM EST (02:13 PM PST)Unlike Apple, which immediately released its new iOS 5 on the same day for all its current devices, including models that are now over two years old, Motorola Mobility and Sony Ericsson are offering their customers excuses as to why the latest release of Google's Android 4.0 won't be available to them for many more months, if ever.

    Motorla Mobility and Sony Ericsson have issued lengthly explanations offering various reasons why their customers won't receive updates anytime soon to Google's Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, which was made available in a generic form three weeks ago.

    The explanations highlight a major difference between Apple's integrated iOS software and Google's broadly licensed Android platform.

    Open like Windows, if it were only launched by Dell

    "Like you, we are excited to see that Google released the source code to Android Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS)!" Motorola stated in a blog posting.

    "There are many steps and processes that go into Ice Cream Sandwich in a way that works for the carrier and for you," Motorola states, adding, "once source code is released from Google, it doesn’t automatically update to your device."

    Both Motorola and Sony Ericsson are members of the Open Handset Alliance tasked with developing Android, and therefore might be understood to be privy to the development of the latest Android release before its final appearance. However, Motorola explains that "each new version of Android launches with one device partner, in what is called the 'Google Experience Device' or GED, the showcase device for a new Android release."

    A very short list of Motorola's Android 4.0 updates

    Outside of the launch partner, other members of the Android community only gain "access to the Android source code as its [sic] made public shortly after," Motorola explains. Now that has happened, the company says it is "currently assessing this source code, and over the next month we will be determining which devices will get the upgrade and when."

    Android licensees' lists of supported devices that will get updates to the latest release of Android typically only involve very recent, new devices. In Motorola's case, it only notes the Droid RAZR, Droid Bionic and Xoom tablets as its current targets for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.

    This excludes the once highly touted Motorola Atrix 4G that was launched alongside Apple's iPhone 4 last year, along with the also relatively new and widely sold Droid 2, Droid X and X2 models, all of which will be stuck with last year's Android 2.3 Gingerbread. The original Droid/Milestone, which arrived a few months after Apple's iPhone 3GS, is stuck on Android 2.2 Froyo, an even older release.



    Sony Ericsson similarly noted that the release of Android 4.0 "meant the start of an intensive period for the engineers at Sony Ericsson, in order to create a working, stable and certified software release of Ice Cream Sandwich for our 2011 Xperia™ phones."

    That excludes support for Sony Ericsson's Xperia X10, released in the US last fall with specs similar to the iPhone 4. It will be stuck with Gingerbread, but as Wikipedia notes, "Since the Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) update the phone has suffered a stuttering in play or streaming of music regardless of file association. The only solution currently is to root your phone and apply a patch located on the XDA developers forum. Sony refuses to acknowledge the problem and have as of late offered no solution to this bug."

    This fractionalization of the Android platform means that developers have few reasons to incorporate support for features in the latest version of Android, because most Android users are still using a version that's over a year old (according to Google). As of December 1, half of the traffic visiting Android Market is still using last winter's 2.3.x Gingerbread, while more than 45 percent is using an even older version.

    The long road to releasing Android 4.0

    For the few models it chooses to support with an update, Motorola says it must spend some time incorporating support for unique hardware involved in its products, including the specific processors, GPUs and other chips that are not natively supported in the generic Android release.

    "This is also the time when we begin integrating all of the Motorola-specific software enhancements into the source code," the company adds. " Features like MotoCast, Smart Actions, and our comprehensive enterprise solutions are integral parts of our device experiences, and we want to make sure we continue delivering differentiated experiences for our consumers with these software upgrades."

    Some of Motorola's additional software has had the side effect of breaking Android's permissions-based security system, although not nearly as bad as HTC and Samsung's additional software, whichresearchers note has opened up the ability for rogue apps to steal private, data, track users' precise locations, wipe the phone entirely, or record calls and send paid SMS messages.



    Carriers add more months to Android rollouts

    Once an Android licensee has finished working out release bugs to an acceptable level, it releases its hardware-specific updates to the mobile carriers, which have to test and certify the updates, something that Motorola says can involve "a two-month preparation cycle to enter a carrier lab cycle of one to three months."

    "Contrary to what people may think," Sony Ericsson states, "it is not the Bring up phase [adding vendor hardware and software customizations], but the Certification and approval phase that is the most time consuming process when it comes to getting a new software release out on our phones.

    "This is one of the major tasks that are legally required from us as phone manufacturer, but is a task that the custom ROM community doesn’t have to take into consideration. Furthermore, by putting all this efforts into testing and certification, we ensure that quality and conformance is at a top level, in benefit for all consumers worldwide."


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    And the Verge article I mentioned is not the one in the first post, its this one:

    http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/23/2...medium=twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterFahim View Post
    and the worst part with like no new ground-breaking feature except the face unlock .
    And one funny fact about this awesome update is, you can unlock device with a photograph or digital image on other devices


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    I am using ICS in my galaxy s for about a month now and its seems pretty good, who needs official rom when u have 3 different custom roms MIUI v4, CM9, onecosmics ICS to choose from. so actually i dont care much


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    Quote Originally Posted by aladdin View Post
    And one funny fact about this awesome update is, you can unlock device with a photograph or digital image on other devices

    yes you could do that, but in the final update it has been fixed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by samiulislam16 View Post
    who needs official rom
    People who don't have the time to tweak their phones just to get decent usability out of it, ie, most people.

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    Samsung to rethink plans for ICS on Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab
    Last week, Samsung announced that the good ol' Galaxy S and P1000 Galaxy Tab 7.0 won't be eligible to get in line for some tasty, official Ice Cream Sandwich update. As a result, a lot of people were infuriated and wrote Sammy how they really felt about the matter.


    And what do you know - it turns out this worked and, according to Korean newspaper Ajnews, Samsung has promised to look into it again and reevaluate both Galaxy S and Tab viability to get Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
    It's still unknown when Samsung will actually come up with a verdict on the future of the two devices, but one thing is certain - the million of Galaxy S users won't take No for an answer. If you are feeling impatient, head over to our blog to see how the Galaxy S runs Ice Cream Sandwich.

    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_r...-news-3578.php


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    Thats great, hopefully they will change their minds.

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    Just goes to show how the iphone and i0S is a class above the android junk, you don't see apple making "reconsiderations" about releasing a certain 0S for older hardwares, they try their best to maintain maximum compatibility while delivering updates and new features at the same time, anyways, it's good that they reconsidered, the more competition android puts up, the better.

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    Just when things were looking good.


    Samsung Galaxy S to get a Value pack update (VPU) instead of ICS Update during Q1, 2012






    Bad News... then Good NEWS ... then Bad News Again, It seems that Samsung will stand by its original decision for the Galaxy S after all. However, there will be a slight change as Samsung will be providing a Value Pack Update (VPU) to Galaxy S I9000 users instead of the Android ICS 4.0 update.


    Although the phone will stay at Android Gingerbread 2.3, the Value Pack Update (VPU) will bring the experience as close as Ice Cream Sandwich and in the same time will keep the device running TouchWiz very smoothly and bring an experience as close as Ice Cream Sandwhich. The VPU will start Rolling-out during the Q1,2012




    The Value Pack Update (VPU) will Include:
    • Improved Web Browser Experience

    • Improved Multi-tasking

    • Smoother User Interface (UI) look close to the ICS

    • New Widgets to increase productivity

    • Performance Enhancements & Bug Fixes

    Samsung earlier this month adopted a similar strategy for its Wave 525 and Wave 533 devices. Instead of offering bada 2.0 to both the devices, Samsung promised to provide a Value Pack upgrade which tries to offer the "same bada 2.0 user experience and service as much as possible despite the hardware limitations."

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    The decision of introducing the VPU has been dropped too.
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    Guess what??? scan it??:

    Good enough GAMING RIG

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    its time for windows phone guys, try lumia 800 when it comes here in feb , galaxy malaxy falao and buy a real phone.

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    I wonder what is so special about this Nokia Lumia 800? @cyanid3

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanid3 View Post
    its time for windows phone guys, try lumia 800 when it comes here in feb , galaxy malaxy falao and buy a real phone.
    windows phone bhalo, but nothing beats iOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    I wonder what is so special about this Nokia Lumia 800? @cyanid3
    you will see,

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