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    No idea what's all the fuss about! But, no way I am not posting here.

    If you want to stop piracy, follow these steps
    - get a 128kbps internet connection
    - buy an old intel atom netbook
    - install linux
    - stop going to any kind of CD/DVD shop

    Damn! No piracy for you sir.

    Pro Tip: Stop using Transmission with your Varsity WiFi (It's a hardware level piracy if you know what I mean )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    On topic: Piracy isn't stealing because you're distributing software which has no manufacturing costs. Hell it's renewable product all it needs to make money is demand but that's like saying "We no give money, free stuff" you have to pay some sort of money as labor work went into making it and it's under continuous update for better versions. Stealing hardware is stealing, stealing software isn't stealing, it's denying income.
    oh my god, u do remember the entertainment products with highest (development+marketing) costs are video games, and do u realize you wouldnt get halo series if everybody just pirated the games? you are a big halo fan arent u? the labor works into microsoft windows and many video games and movies beat many hardware manufacturer spending windows development cost is way more than your favourite company amd's hardware manufacturing cost. lel.

    if you list world most expensive manufacturing products now... buildings will win... but many products of the list will star entertainment products movies and games. they are more expensive than cars... even some hardwares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaziishan View Post
    No idea what's all the fuss about! But, no way I am not posting here.

    If you want to stop piracy, follow these steps
    - get a 128kbps internet connection
    - buy an old intel atom netbook
    - install linux
    - stop going to any kind of CD/DVD shop

    Damn! No piracy for you sir.

    Pro Tip: Stop using Transmission with your Varsity WiFi (It's a hardware level piracy if you know what I mean )
    nothing personal thats the single dumbest logic i have ever seen? coz if u need to stop piracy u need better internet connection, get cheap games from lord gaben and g2a, get a moderately good pc to play games, or you can buy a console, get genuine windows, you can find them with 20-35$ cdkeys.

    also, varsity wifi is public, please explain how using a public service make us pirate? we should all stay home and stop using roads, police, water, electricity then.

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    ps: maybe u are being sarcastic.. if it was sarcasm then it was the best sarcasm ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    oh my god, u do remember the entertainment products with highest (development+marketing) costs are video games, and do u realize you wouldnt get halo series if everybody just pirated the games? you are a big halo fan arent u? the labor works into microsoft windows and many video games and movies beat many hardware manufacturer spending windows development cost is way more than your favourite company amd's hardware manufacturing cost. lel.

    if you list world most expensive manufacturing products now... buildings will win... but many products of the list will star entertainment products movies and games. they are more expensive than cars... even some hardwares.
    Yet I didn't say it was the right thing or it's ok to pirate to deny income to people who put labor into product. Would I tell someone to make something for me for free? He has a degree, certain skillset to put use, he has to make money for his work. What am saying is, it's not that drastic as stealing manufacturers car from trucks is it? but then again would I sell oxygen to someone? software is non-material, we're paying for something that weights 0.000000000000000000000001grams . I can relate if we're paying way too much of our cash into it

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    off topic
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    okay i admit its difficult to compare which thing is worse between two bad things, but i believe public youtube videos have way more exposure than even closed or public facebook groups or any forums, though there are not many xbox fanboys doing the propaganda+ cursing in youtube... they are like ~20 i think. but what the say is sounds almost like joseph goebles propaganda to me, no base or proof at all, 98% of what they say is uber lies. and moreover other youtubers always try to criticize them time to time, but whenever they do that the xbox utube fanboys start making jokes about them, they refuse to debate about their piece of plastic (facepalm), they start to speculate things about their critics' personal lives . i never saw ps4 fans to start speculating things about xbox fans' personal lives at that scale, yet. moreover they even start personal bashing/ speculating stuff about one of the xbox fans if that xbox fanboy says 'i love xbox but microsoft did a mistake by doing this or this so thats why xbox cant outsold the ps4 although xbox is better'. it seems unbelievable but they often do that too


    also i never liked the 180 degree turn of those xbox fanboys within couple of months lel, years ago they used to say features are useless we have better device, within couple of months they changed their slogan to you have better graphics so what features matter more.

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    maybe i am wrong, maybe ps4 fans are worse, maybe pc elitist are worse who bash console buyers in every utube comment. but again, those xbox utube fanboys even argue with gamestop, they confront many ps4 buyers in gamestop and best buy and try to harass them for buying a piece of plastic named ps4, my god, they even dare to upload those videos in utube, i dont wanna make nazi party look better but these things reminds me of nazis, people call them xbots but maybe they should call them naziboys or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Yet I didn't say it was the right thing or it's ok to pirate to deny income to people who put labor into product. Would I tell someone to make something for me for free? He has a degree, certain skillset to put use, he has to make money for his work. What am saying is, it's not that drastic as stealing manufacturers car from trucks is it? but then again would I sell oxygen to someone? software is non-material, we're paying for something that weights 0.000000000000000000000001grams . I can relate if we're paying way too much of our cash into it
    Even if you don't think it's not stealing, you're breaking the terms of copyright which is a form of deed.

    In some cases the developer of the product encourages piracy themselves. I think pirating those products is okay. Like Microsoft giving free windows 10 upgrades to pirates kind of means they don't mind pirating it. So nice of those guys who didn't even allowed sharing purchased Windows CD in their copyright terms.

    Same can't be said to smaller developers, who don't have the means to prevent piracy and if they don't get enough for their hard work they might get discouraged.

    Atleast for softwares I think there are open source alternatives for almost everything. So if you can't afford something try the open source alternatives. FDM works as nice alternative of IDM, GIMP if you can't afford photoshop. Also if you keep an eye on sharewaresonsale you will often get good paid softwares for free.

    As for games, they are usually sold with huge discount after a few months. So if you can't afford it on release, you can always wait a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    ps: maybe u are being sarcastic.. if it was sarcasm then it was the best sarcasm ever?
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    But, DAMN! This is the second time on the forum someone took my sarcasm seriously. However, should I explain how my anti-piracy plan works? I'm warning you, it's gonna make a [email protected]#%storm here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    . What am saying is, it's not that drastic as stealing manufacturers car from trucks is it?
    if my calculations are correct if we judge (in last 20 years) percentage of car companies got bankrupt in car industry and percentage of construction company got bankrupt in construction industry and percentage of AAA and AA video game publishing/developing company got bankrupt or disbanded in video game industry you can realize what i was trying to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post

    software is non-material, we're paying for something that weights 0.000000000000000000000001grams .

    i believe the weight is irrelevant. for example- we are paying for electricity and gas and internet, cellphone communication anD many other things which doesnt have any/much weight. but games and movies are entertainment product we should recheck if we are spending too much money in there.

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    What is @minitt or @aayman doing? This topic has left rational argument long enough. Spare us by closing the thread.
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    piracy is not stealing according to many but it is stealing in the end. people define it stealing depending on the damage its done to the owner. You have credit card..i copy it and use it..you still have the original one ..i have a copied n used it..result stealing . You researched for a year n now about to launch the product in few months, we copy from your server n sell the source to 100 buyers..result? you go bankrupt even though you own original copy..just by twisting the words you cant escape hard bitter results of piracy..people define it according to their own scenario ..denying of the income..say whatever it is..in some cases the damage is minor..in come cases its life n death situation for people. Say you have worked hard on design..auto cad..maya max or say made unity games or udk..i copied your sourced code n release it for free..what would you say to me? i pirated? the first thing you would say ...that son of b* stole my work !! I am sure you will find many great speakers who will say piracy is not stealing..ask them more if the company goes bankrupt if they still say no..copy there credit card..their identity card..their bank info..then say i pirated it.....they are not selling bank info credit cards ..then i can say ..doesn't matter i just own a copy of their original documents..i do not own the original copy..i copied it ..as long as i pirate ..it wont be compared to stealing just my opinion..if the effect of piracy is same as stealing the original ( hardware product or where your software loses its value) one then you can use stealing words..otherwise feel free to use pirate word .Also i would like to point out that ..if you have desires to own a paid product of any form without paying legally ,the act itself is stealing.. .. method would be different as there will be many inventions in future . I just wrote it up real quick.. feel free to debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    And which source do you think generates our electricity? Dude I remember my science class. We're still not fully integrated with Hydrogen fueled cars yet, still using few Sonar Panels, Wind Turbines. Those of which are renewable energy, unfortunately we're using coal to fuel our electricity which does have limited supplies for the most part
    oh my god, again. u dont believe if something doesnt weight isnt worth that much like something has weight? this is the single dumbest thing i have ever read.
    this is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, i mean this is what happens when people continue argument for the sake of the argument.
    i have many examples, like sunlight- which according to scientists is the most important energy source on earth, more important than a physical object car or your amd gpu or xbox.

    but to make things abundantly clear i will show u an example which may sound even more off topic

    okay people may have different opinion about it but i do believe (and billions of people agree with me) Someone is indefinitely more important than everything else in existence, that Someone has no weight, height or physical attributes. He is so important that we must obey his orders all the time at all cost. you get the idea period. i am not gonna argue about 'importance of weight characteristic anymore', i dont wanna sound dumb because i argue too much with another guy's dumb logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post

    i believe the weight is irrelevant. for example- we are paying for electricity and gas and internet, cellphone communication anD many other things which doesnt have any/much weight. but games and movies are entertainment product we should recheck if we are spending too much money in there.
    And which source do you think generates our electricity? Dude I remember my science class. We're still not fully integrated with Hydrogen fueled cars yet, still using few Sonar Panels, Wind Turbines. Those of which are renewable energy, unfortunately we're using coal to fuel our electricity which does have limited supplies for the most part

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    ^Man a scientist won't even solve your problems, neither a psychologist or therapist. Admin either close thread or clean up this went total FUBAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    ^Man a scientist won't even solve your problems, neither a psychologist or therapist. Admin either close thread or clean up this went total FUBAR
    quote from a wise man named akbar ali khan 'i wont even reply to her insult, because whenever people start to lose an argument they start to make things personal'

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    Nooo please. I only pay for Bangladeshi stuffs. You can do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipu09 View Post
    Nooo please. I only pay for Bangladeshi stuffs. You can do the same.
    hope you didn't mean pirated disk burned in Bangladesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    hope you didn't mean pirated disk burned in Bangladesh
    Yeh. I know what is a pirated burned disk and original silver disk. I have huge music CD collection still all silver disk authentic products.

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