AMD is being sued!!! What do you guys think?
Well this time AMD is being sued for misleading the consumers instead of Nvidia.
Its strange that this law suit is coming so many years after after its launch.
What are you thoughts BG Community? Any conspiracy theories?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...er-core-count/
Well Nvidia got sued for the 970's misleading advert so it's only fair AMD gets the same for their cpu.
just because cores share something in-between, it doesnot necessarily mean that the are not true cores.
True, amd might win the lawsuit, any news when a result is expected?
American justice system is broken, and this is the latest proof.
Nice way to kick the gut of an already downed amd.
does anybody actually cares how many cores amd has?i have a feeling even amd engineers dont care about that.
No sh!t genius, 8 cores not giving full multithread performance ratio. It's 8 effing cores, how do you expect near 80% efficient multi-threaded performance from 8 cores?
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I swallowed my puke after seeing how much Piledriver 4 core even sucked at multithread performanceOriginally Posted by furiousTaher
does anybody actually cares how many cores amd has?
What? Was there ever any doubt that those processors were never really 8-core or 6-core? So why wouldn't you expect a lawsuit eventually?
Them having a hard time right now is irrelevant for this matter.
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The problem is obviously not just core efficiency, Intel isn't 100% core efficient either and a lot of it has to do with how programs are coded.
I don't think this lawsuit will gain much traction, it's not like BD and PD were very successful lol. They might be forced to do a partial refund though.
They had that coming.
so we cant sue evil politicians bankers or businessman for corruption because they are supposed to be corrupt and liars? your logic is sound.
Not surprised your comprehension is that of an idiot, where did I say that? ...
it was a mistake. calm ur ..... down
So I should take Passmark scores with a grain of salt?
No not completely. They are indicative of performance, but that's not what this suit is about.
Look at it this way. Suppose there is an app that uses BD 100% and has 100% core efficiency.
Dual core BD:
single core = 100fps
only second core = 100fps
but if the app uses both cores do you think it is even possible to get 200fps? 0% chance of that happening since each cores share the same pool of resources which would restrict each core from performing 100% like they would individually.
It's the reverse of Intel, i7s are quad cores but can do 8 threads (advertised as quad core), these are 6-8 cores, advertised as such but can't really perform like 6-8 cores hence the lawsuit.
The scores in Passmark would be even higher if these were true to their name.
Shared FPUs and IPUs makes sense, heck those units aren't even that good enough. Hench explains every freaking reviews
The same reviews where i3s or even old Phenoms match "6 cores" BD? Synthetic benchmarks are not very relevant if real-world apps show a different story.
If this ever goes to trial, they will definitely compare this to Athlon, Phenom and Intel processors to define proper independent cores. The whole issue will boil down to that. Just ask yourself this, doesn't it make more sense to advertise FX-8150 as four modules and eight threads?
That's pretty much what this is about, they will have to defend this in front of ordinary people with 0 tech knowledge. Any analogy that you can think of will have to show that resources are being split and is not completely dedicated on a core-by-core basis.
Yes I know, it's sad seeing that AMD is getting their ¤¤¤¤ together and this comes along, I just hope it's not Class A Civil
I still don't think it will become very serious. Most of the time cases get settled outside of court and we never hear anything about it. At worst, AMD will have to do a partial refund but even then, it will be years from now.
Well one thing which surprised me the most is why this law suit is coming up so late. AMD has been doing this core/module thing for quite some time and its well known by everyone that their cores arent actually true cores like intels cause because amd cores share FPU and some other stuffs like scheduler (i think, not sure). Why is the law suit surfacing now, so late of bulldozers life cycle?
if i know correct things about the 'intel admitting cheating pentium 4 benchmarks', that lawsuit was some years after pentium 4 was released and intel admitted cheating in 2013, thats 11 years after pentium 4 released.
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i think people dont realize these technical things just after product release, about the 3.5gb 970gtx issue, reviewers didnt see it, it was seen by enthusiast after ~3~5 months of release right? thats because 4gb vram matters now. on the other hand those intel cheating or amd alleged cheating doesnt actually 'matter', right?
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