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    Default How can I improve? Also looking for people to play with.

    Hi guys, I've started playing DOTA since the last 8/9 months.

    How can I improve? I haven't calibrated my mmr, I think I'm not ready yet.

    I've attached some of my hero stats, I really would like to add more heroes to the roster. Can you suggest some?

    also, suggest some guides that you found out really helpful.


    And last but not least, looking for some regular players to play with. People willing to communicate, co-operate and help each other to get better.

    You can check my Dotabuff http://www.dotabuff.com/players/112106887

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    Focus on some heroes and just spam them, raising mmr is very easy this way. any agility carry really and some exceptions. you can safely callibrate now. Just spam heroes like bloodseeker, Storm, SF, pa, legion, troll and play as selfish as possible during calibrating (unless by some miracle you actually get a competent team) with your 75% winrate, just spam 10 games as bloodseeker during calibrating and if you win 8/10 or even 7/10 with a nice KDA you can easily start your mmr at 3.6k to 4.3k getting to 4k is very easy it gets significantly hard after 4.5k though im stuck at early 5k-5.2kfor a long time...

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    I would love to play with you sometimes, but I'm taking a break from Dota 2 right now.

    By looking at you Dotabuff, I can say

    1. You play mostly carry heroes, but you don't farm enough. Practice lasthitting more against bots.
    2. You use mask of madness quite a lot, which is a item that makes you die easier. So you need to evaluate the situation and opponent heroes before you buy it. And even if everything is good, you need to be very careful of your positioning and timing of the activation.

    I could say more if I watched you play, but I can't so I will give you some general advice.

    1. Try to learn more about heroes you don't play, since it is as important to have good understanding of your allies' and opponents' heroes as your own hero. Try to play every hero at least once(against bots, preferably).
    2. Watch the replays of the matches you lost, and try to evaluate what went wrong.
    3. Don't blame your teammates, even if they are doing bad. Everyone has their bad days, and flaming will only make it worse.
    4. Always evaluate the engaging heroes before entering a fight/gank.

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    if you really want to improve your game play try to follow the game play of pro players in twich tv, watch as many tournament matches as you can, try to follow this channel https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC6vQmbHIu4Ksd4U0EIAVbrg
    and purge gamer is really good for average players https://purgegamers.true.io

    and last but not least play bot matches as much as you can try to start with medium and end up with unfair but a bit by bit dont rush at hard and unfair without mastering the heros properly and imo with 45% win rate you should not start rank match try to increase it to 50% then start playing rank even after calibration if you get 3k by spamming bs or pa op heroes it wont take long to down at 1k if you dont improve your gameplay and bot match > normal match

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    @shawon0418Thanks for your reply man.

    I use MoM a lot because the heroes I play with are mostly semi-carries. And flash farming with MoM is very easy for me. I have bad last hitting skills with ranged heroes and terrible with melee ones. So I guess I have to play a lot of bot matches. And I would like to know more about drafting or counter picking stuff before I go into playing MMR. Can u help me with that?


    Btw, why would you take a break from dota? It's like the best game ever created.

    @Ehsas bro, blood seeker is a good hero to play and my favorite. I will try to spam him xD.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sensei View Post
    bot match > normal match
    damn dude xD

    anyway, i only played bot match for last hitting practice or landing skill shots like pudge/mirana stuff. Although I'm terrible at both of the heroes. Never actually played a full match. Gonna try it.
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    Just looked at your dotabuff and watched a replay. at the moment it seems your unranked mmr is low (below 3.2k) so it's at normal skill. Even though there are many terrible players at the very high skill bracket, it's much more common at normal. So really just spam op heroes and get it to very high so you can play with others that have experience and aren't mostly just farming all game. about the bot thing.. it's easy to beat even unfair bots since you'll eventually find out their moves and they also have cheats (they can tell which one is real from an illusion) what you need to build experience is play with people and guess out their playing types.

    First off try learning 2-3 words from the common languages "go" "get back" "help" in languages most people use in your server (pinoys, indos, russians, mexicans etc) that way there will atleast be some communication and not just yelling speak english which might even piss them off. Also observe in the early game who in your team and the enemy team looks good or bad. and target one if you see someone in the enemy team laning or reacting rather badly, gank and feed of them, and if you have retarded teammates just ignore them and don't risk dying to save them, just follow the one that seems to make sense.

    You can usually also tell which by the hero picks if it's going to be an easy or a hard/almost loss game.. in cases where you know that for sure use the abandonment trick (works only half the time) if it dosen't.. then just play and bloodseeker's very good to climb mmr, use it when it seems like your team is terrible and you need to carry them all on your own, he's a good jungler, so just lvl your first skill at lane then jungle. if you have 1 or 2 good supports in your team pick heroes that benefit from it like legion, since if they help out at duels and you get some nice bonus damage early it's an easy game. and also consider learning supports and semi carries too since at ranked you usually let the person with the highest mmr be the main carry.

    And lastly use quickcast/autocast to narrow down your reaction time, once you get used to it you'll see how much faster and efficient it is, especially for heroes like ember and earth and any hero that needs force staff/blink. As for builds don't stick to one, build whatever's right for your situation. for example an mkb might not be your core but if you have a PA on your enemy team that's highly farmed, you need to get one. Watching pro games will help you understand how to use the hero better, but definitely don't try to replicate everything since it just won't work as they have an entire team also at their level and you won't get teams like that. and do try and start ranked soon since most people aren't trying or serious at unranked, and there's nothing you lose so having ranked experience is key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by game_o_holic View Post
    @shawon0418Thanks for your reply man.

    I use MoM a lot because the heroes I play with are mostly semi-carries. And flash farming with MoM is very easy for me. I have bad last hitting skills with ranged heroes and terrible with melee ones. So I guess I have to play a lot of bot matches. And I would like to know more about drafting or counter picking stuff before I go into playing MMR. Can u help me with that?
    Flash farming with MoM is nice and I too like it, but what I said is you need to be careful when you pick it up. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1879229570 in this match, you bought MoM against a Juggernaut, QW Invoker, Bloodseeker and Axe. Any of those heroes can burst you down. You would be better off getting bulk items like SnY/Skadi. And since I can't watch your replay I can't comment on your positioning. But positioning becomes ten times more important when you activate MoM. About drafting, most of the times it doesn't matter in All pick. Just make sure your team has 2 supports and a proper mid. What you need to keep in mind that, you shouldn't try and counterpick one hero too hard (e.g. opponent picks Riki and your team instapick Slardar, Bounty and Bloodseeker). Just make sure your hero doesn't get directly countered by one of the opponents. Counterpicking heroes like Broodmother and PL is crucial though. And if you're the one picking those just say I will lastpick that hero in chat. If you're picking squishy heroes without proper escape mechanism like Sniper/Drow/Luna make sure your team has a tanky hero who will stay in the frontline and opponents doesn't have too many blinkers. Learn how to use fog and juke spots properly by watching youtube videos.


    Quote Originally Posted by game_o_holic View Post
    Btw, why would you take a break from dota? It's like the best game ever created.
    I realized it became too much of a addiction for me and I'm constantly getting abysmal grades in class. So I thought I'd stay off one semester from Dota and see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by game_o_holic View Post
    @shawon0418Thanks for your reply man.

    I use MoM a lot because the heroes I play with are mostly semi-carries. And flash farming with MoM is very easy for me. I have bad last hitting skills with ranged heroes and terrible with melee ones. So I guess I have to play a lot of bot matches. And I would like to know more about drafting or counter picking stuff before I go into playing MMR. Can u help me with that?


    Btw, why would you take a break from dota? It's like the best game ever created.

    @Ehsas bro, blood seeker is a good hero to play and my favorite. I will try to spam him xD.




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    damn dude xD

    anyway, i only played bot match for last hitting practice or landing skill shots like pudge/mirana stuff. Although I'm terrible at both of the heroes. Never actually played a full match. Gonna try it.
    should have mentioned when i said bot match it meant co-op human vs bot not you and rest of your 4 team bot vs bot matches

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    Can anyone tell me how can anyone get out of 1k mmr braket

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahi0064 View Post
    Can anyone tell me how can anyone get out of 1k mmr braket
    A lot of people might say it's easy, but it's not.
    One does not simply improve mmr bracket overnight.
    However, keep playing, and you will eventually improve. MMR doesn't matter as long as you're enjoying the game.

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