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    Default Sony wants to release a Playstation 4 Remastered

    this generation of consoles is the fastest console selling generation in the history, and sony is way ahead of microsoft at this moment, so they want to release a more powerful version of ps4 to provide better graphics and more importantly 4k 60fps video support.


    http://www.techtimes.com/articles/99...t-would-it.htm

    According to Masayasu Ito, senior vice president for Sony Computer Entertainment, Sony could consider releasing a "high-performance" model of the massively popular PlayStation 4.
    While the PlayStation 4 has already been referred to by Sony as the most powerful console in the world, Ito said in an interview with Japanese video game publication 4Gamer that the company could offer a new model of the PlayStation 4 that features better performance in the future.
    According to Ito, since the PlayStation 4 utilizes an X86 architecture, as opposed to the Cell processor of its predecessor the PlayStation 3, Sony could implement performance improvements on the video game console over time.
    However, Ito said that the company currently has no immediate plans to release a high-performance PlayStation 4 model, adding that the bigger question is if Sony would actually want to do such a thing.
    While a high-performance PlayStation 4 model would seem to be great news at first, releasing such a gaming console would be splitting the audience of the PlayStation 4 into two camps, with one using the beefed up PlayStation 4 and the other using the then-outdated PlayStation 4. This would not be something that Sony would want to do at this stage of the life of the video game console, with the PlayStation 4 still enjoying strong sales.
    It should also be considered that Ito was talking about the situation hypothetically after being asked the question on the possibility of a high-performance PlayStation 4. Still, Ito said that launching a high-performance version of the gaming console to run alongside the current one could merit consideration by the company.
    Video game consoles usually do not receive such major updates, as revisions usually come in smaller updates such as more efficient energy usage and changes in aesthetics. Technical performance for video game consoles are usually the same from the beginning of the console's product life until its end.
    The idea, however, is not totally unheard of. Last year, Nintendo launched the New Nintendo 3DS, which featured an improvement in CPU performance compared to the earlier model. The New Nintendo 3DS, which is being sold alongside the original Nintendo 3DS, is a high-powered version that is able to play all the games for its predecessor and many title from the gaming libraries of the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DSi. Some games, however, can only be played on the New Nintendo 3DS as these titles utilize the increased power of the newer model.
    Whether Sony will follow Nintendo's lead and launch a high-performance PlayStation 4 remains to be seen, though it would seem that the possibility is there.
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    my expression- it will be a bad move for a console which has strong competitor like pc or xboxone. but they can release ps5 little early, that wont be a terrible idea.

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    4k at 60 fps? jesus christ a titan X can't do that at demanding games...so im guessing the price will be over 1.5-2k atleast if they release something like that now. and that really won't sell well.

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    Nay there wont be any Beefed up PS4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    4k at 60 fps? jesus christ a titan X can't do that at demanding games...so im guessing the price will be over 1.5-2k atleast if they release something like that now. and that really won't sell well.
    4k 60fps video support and other stuff which pc can do for years. not gaming. they are not that stupid that they will attempt 4k gaming at 1000-1200$ price range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    4k at 60 fps? jesus christ a titan X can't do that at demanding games...so im guessing the price will be over 1.5-2k atleast if they release something like that now. and that really won't sell well.
    If games are optimized only for Titan X, then 60fps isn't unimaginable.

    I don't see where he says 4k 60fps though, I skimmed through the interview on another site and he said something like a better spec'd PS4 makes sense. The XB1 is supposed to get a major software upgrade too right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    4k at 60 fps? jesus christ a titan X can't do that at demanding games...so im guessing the price will be over 1.5-2k atleast if they release something like that now. and that really won't sell well.
    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    4k 60fps video support and other stuff which pc can do for years. not gaming. they are not that stupid that they will attempt 4k gaming at 1000-1200$ price range
    Nintendo NX will crush anyone with their "Cutting Edge Chips" & "Incredible Hardware". It will play Donkey Kong at 4K 60 FPS.

    However, whatever they release, consoles should at least able to play at 60 FPS. It's brutal that most of the games won't go over 30 FPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaziishan View Post
    Nintendo NX will crush anyone with their "Cutting Edge Chips" & "Incredible Hardware". It will play Donkey Kong at 4K 60 FPS.

    However, whatever they release, consoles should at least able to play at 60 FPS. It's brutal that most of the games won't go over 30 FPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    I don't see where he says 4k 60fps though,
    4k 60fps but not gaming, sony might be bankrupt but they are not that dumb to release a 1200$ ps4 remastered.

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    I skimmed through the interview on another site and he said something like a better spec'd PS4 makes sense. The XB1 is supposed to get a major software upgrade too right?
    ps4 remastered (if they focus on better gaming performance) doesnt make any sense to me. they might be the fastest selling console ever in the history but this doesnt make any sense to me, fragmenting their consumer base, more importantly fragmenting their developer base (and thus fragmenting their games) only make bad reputation for them. that means ps4 will become much more fragmented than pc. and that also means not only ps4 will lose 3rd best reason to buy a console(convenience- just put a disk and and good to go you dont need to know any specs or something),they will create mass confusion and bad press. and they aint nintendo, nintendo has a specific fanbase, but more than half of ps4 gamers have come from xbox fanbase or pc. ps4 has strong competition from xbone and pc so....


    and i havent have the slightest clue how a major software update can be comparable to a remastered hardware. a software update doesnt fragment their consumers, doesnt actually fragment their developer base, and doesnt fragment their games at all.

    off topic: i dont believe for a second win10 on xbone can improve performance significantly, ya it can increase performance a little here and their but wont be dramatic, they might be able to provide same resolution and same framerate as ps4 but not any better any way.

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    but if they doesnt focus on gaming performance at all, only improve 4k video experience or other things.... then this is actually a pretty good idea

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    If it's just for video support then that's a good idea i guess... if their remastered console is around 400$ again AND can give 1080p at 60fps at every title then yes it will be very good playing exclusives at 30fps kills a part of me every time i sit to play i should've gotten this news earlier though, i just bought a halo edition peasant box one if i only knew a new one is on the horizon....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybaris Caesar View Post
    peasant squeaker: but hollywood proves that human eye can't see past 24 fps I just love to read all the excuses peasants make to defend their peasantboxes and peasantstations
    Ah remember Hobbit? How weird was that? Oh wait 48FPS, yes we noticed that too though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Ah remember Hobbit? How weird was that? Oh wait 48FPS, yes we noticed that too though
    thats because movie's 48fps works totally different than a game's framerate. games render each of the 48 or 60fps. where movie like hobbit actually filmed at 24fps then recreated the other 24frames after doing some calculations... i forgot the techonological term.

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    guys just wait "in your face" kind of 60fps Avatar movie than will see how people change their perception

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    thats because movie's 48fps works totally different than a game's framerate. games render each of the 48 or 60fps. where movie like hobbit actually filmed at 24fps then recreated the other 24frames after doing some calculations... i forgot the techonological term.
    My point being is I was able to see the difference from 30FPS to 60FPS but not always above that, also this game had a lot to sacrifice for the performance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    My point being is I was able to see the difference from 30FPS to 60FPS but not always above that, also this game had a lot to sacrifice for the performance.

    u cant because monitors are locked to 60fps... i can, everybody can understand 60fps vs 200fps in cs go or dota or insurgency even in 60fps monitor though obviously. but i dont think i can understand difference between 60 vs 90fps singleplayer games like gta 5 or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
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    There won't be mass confusion, it can easily be the same disc for both versions of the game (if at all). It's just two SDKs of almost certainly better versions of current hardware and not something entirely different. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to simply get PC textures working smoothly, that alone will be a pretty decent upgrade for multiplatform games.

    The price is another reason why this makes sense. Currently prices are down to 350 and will be down to 250 by the end of next year. If they make a new version, they can easily pull that off for $450. It obviously won't be $1,200 like you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    I dont think i can understand difference between 60 vs 90fps singleplayer games like gta 5 or something
    Any environment where you can control, you will be able to tell the difference.

    I cannot tell a difference between 120hz and 144hz, but increment below that is easily noticeable. I'd say 120hz is the point of diminishing returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    Any environment where you can control, you will be able to tell the difference.

    I cannot tell a difference between 120hz and 144hz, but increment below that is easily noticeable. I'd say 120hz is the point of diminishing returns.
    i dont think i can tell difference 60 vs 100fps gta5 in my 60fps monitor... but maybe i am wrong coz i never blind tested myself, i need a friend to help me blind test the framerate (insert foreveralone meme here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    There won't be mass confusion, it can easily be the same disc for both versions of the game (if at all). It's just two SDKs of almost certainly better versions of current hardware and not something entirely different. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to simply get PC textures working smoothly, that alone will be a pretty decent upgrade for multiplatform games.

    The price is another reason why this makes sense. Currently prices are down to 350 and will be down to 250 by the end of next year. If they make a new version, they can easily pull that off for $450. It obviously won't be $1,200 like you're saying.
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    but it will still fragment the community. and now you can argue the most fragmented platform pc can stay fragmented for years whats wrong about ps4? well, pc fragmentation is totally different from console fragmentation, one of the main thing is you can do 60fps gaming in both gtx 980 and r9 270, you just need to set ultra on 980 and medium on 270, gameplay wise both same experience. while in ps4 remastered in most of the games you wont have the option to change framerate, you will game at 30fps 900p in ps4 and 60fps 900p or 1080p in ps4 remastered. and there are lot of other reasons why fragmenting the community will be bad for consoles but i wont speak about that, we have lot of utubers to speak about that dont we?

    for me the most upsetting thing about this is- when companies on lead they dont care about customers anymore. ps4 is plagued with issues like psn stability, or even the disk drive and build quality stuff. but they dont care. they are nearly bankrupt so they just need to collect more money as fast as possible. on the other hand, microsoft is on the lose so they are actually listening this time, many of the new features of xbone coming from fan request.

    moreover, we already know this generation of consoles have the most number of remastered games in history, these 8th gen consoles have more remastered AAA titles than 8th generation(ps4 and xbone) AAA exclusives actually. sony released so many remastered games that they want to release even a remastered device . sad. and another thing that upsets me EVEN MORE that sony remastered games many times even have almost same graphics with LESS CONTENT than actual game. while microsoft's halo remastered was actually graphically re-touched.


    about the 1200$ ps4, i told ehsas that it won't happen. i dont know why you always get me wrong, maybe coz i am bad in english, it was actually ehsas who first mentioned 1200$ price tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    about the 1200$ ps4, i told ehsas that it won't happen. i dont know why you always get me wrong, maybe coz i am bad in english, it was actually ehsas who first mentioned 1200$ price tag.
    yup, when i first read the thread i thought the 4k 60fps was the resolution of the games..so for that assumed the high price then realized it's just video support. i still think a 400-450$ ps4 would sell more, but i wouldn't support it. it would be better if the other users can upgrade their system in a way like we pay 100$ or so and they upgrade it to the remaster model or something of that sort.

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