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    Hello Friends,

    How r u all...

    Few days back i started tweaking my gpu to make it more power efficient with lesser heat minimizing the performance loss, after a looooott research on several forums i started my work,

    at stock my card looks like this-
    Attachment 15596
    so, what Asus done was to set the vcore at 1.025 to achieve 925mhz CoreClock, 1880mhz ShaderClock and 2100mhz Memory Clock.

    so at stock settings temp looks like this-
    Attachment 15597

    at stock benches looks like this-

    3d mark Vantage-
    Attachment 15598

    Unigine Heaven
    Attachment 15599

    so i started undervolting my gpu through MSI afterburner and found the most lowest stable vcore at 1.012v.

    here it looks like this-
    Attachment 15600

    temps looks like this after 5mins kombuster-
    Attachment 15601

    3dMark Vantage-
    Attachment 15602

    Unigine Heaven-
    Attachment 15603

    as u can see, at 1.012vcore the temp was more or less same even 1-2c is lott at pick load, but looking at the benches we can say that performance degrades but in small margin but in result my research opens the door to overclock my gpu more at stock(1.025v) vcore and definitely currently my system consumes less power then before.

    so tell me guyz what do u think about it, any advice, critisize will be warmly wellcomed..

    btw. the Unigine Heaven Benchmark settings was-
    Attachment 15604

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Not worth the 2C decrease IMO, it could get unstable when playing games for e.g ? Battlefield 3 Multiplayer perhaps. It's not that you can clock higher with lower vcore, every card reacts differently. Some clocks way higher at stock clocks, for e.g mine 800 at 0.975mV from stock, whereas others need 1.000+ for the same clocks.

    In your case, the performance difference aint that great from the lower vcore, you can edit a custom BIOS & flash it over your current one, after some rigorous testing with the lower vcore, but the different is just too small to be even justified, only a 2C, if it were a 10C+ difference, then it would have been worth it.

    This is just my opinion, please take it with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Not worth the 2C decrease IMO, it could get unstable when playing games for e.g ? Battlefield 3 Multiplayer perhaps. It's not that you can clock higher with lower vcore, every card reacts differently. Some clocks way higher at stock clocks, for e.g mine 800 at 0.975mV from stock, whereas others need 1.000+ for the same clocks.

    In your case, the performance difference aint that great from the lower vcore, you can edit a custom BIOS & flash it over your current one, after some rigorous testing with the lower vcore, but the different is just too small to be even justified, only a 2C, if it were a 10C+ difference, then it would have been worth it.

    This is just my opinion, please take it with a grain of salt.
    thank u for the opinion, so far with that settings seemed stable to all games i played...dekha jak head-room asei, so dorkar hoile aro 1 notch barabo..

    yeah tried to edit bios but failed as its locked..

    ---------- Post added at 22:58 ---------- Previous post was at 22:55 ----------

    btw.. reference GTX 560'r vcore kintu 1.012. so i think its possible to achieve this clock with stock vcore although ov oc and uv oc depends upon chip to chip..

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Quote Originally Posted by musvi View Post
    thank u for the opinion, so far with that settings seemed stable to all games i played...dekha jak head-room asei, so dorkar hoile aro 1 notch barabo..

    yeah tried to edit bios but failed as its locked..
    But is it worth the 2C difference ? Why would the BIOS be locked ? Use FermiBiosEditior, take your current BIOS from GPU-Z or dl it from Asus, edit the voltage (2D/3D p states), save your new BIOS. Use nvflash in Windows to flash your card, easy as that!
    You can try the -f command in nv flash, which is a force command, since it'll detect the changes on the newer BIOS & would give a warning before the actual flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    But is it worth the 2C difference ? Why would the BIOS be locked ? Use FermiBiosEditior, take your current BIOS from GPU-Z or dl it from Asus, edit the voltage (2D/3D p states), save your new BIOS. Use nvflash in Windows to flash your card, easy as that!
    You can try the -f command in nv flash, which is a force command, since it'll detect the changes on the newer BIOS & would give a warning before the actual flash.
    I tried bhaia, gpz diye bios save korar por nibitor and farmi bios editor cant read the bios, i even tried to save the bios by nvflash again same uneditable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by musvi View Post
    I tried bhaia, gpz diye bios save korar por nibitor and farmi bios editor cant read the bios, i even tried to save the bios by nvflash again same uneditable...
    Bhaiya did you edit the xxxxx.bin file to xxxxx.rom file ? nibitor/FBE will read a .rom file, not the .bin file. Try going to your folder options, untick "Hide extensions for known file type", now edit the desired ".bin" to ".rom" & see if you can edit your BIOS in FBE or nibitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Bhaiya did you edit the xxxxx.bin file to xxxxx.rom file ? nibitor/FBE will read a .rom file, not the .bin file. Try going to your folder options, untick "Hide extensions for known file type", now edit the desired ".bin" to ".rom" & see if you can edit your BIOS in FBE or nibitor.
    bhaia u seemed to know about these things, can u check it for meself..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musvi View Post
    bhaia u seemed to know about these things, can u check it for meself..?
    Sure, I can check, but how ? I don't know how to access your PC We can do a Teamviewer session though. I flashed my GTX460 using this method, Gigabyte's own utility didn't even recognize the BIOS for my GTX460 from Gigabyte themselves x|

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    nerds.
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
    Please do not PM me for support. You will NOT get a reply. Post in the relevant forum section.

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    nerds.
    would plz. elaborate..

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    @musvi , I saw your thread at OCN, thought I reply there, but there are far more experts to answer your question, tai bother kori nai. Did it work though ?
    & Don't mind CvP, he' just noob at this xD!

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Quote Originally Posted by musvi View Post
    would plz. elaborate..
    I was just joking. If you didn't understand, no worries. Apologies.

    btw, why underclock for 2c only? Wouldn't an extra fan help more?
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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    well I tried every way but musvi bhaiyar card flash korte parinai...

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Well, I can check it with TeamViewer if he wants. I'm pretty sure it's just an extension (error), why wouldn't those programs even fail to read a perfectly edited (or a non editied) BIOS, flashing to porer kotha.

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Bios flash er dorkar nai, msi aftrbrnr is enough...bios flash may raise a ??marj on ur warranty.
    Last edited by Mohiuddin; November 25th, 2011 at 00:50.

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    Bios flash er dorkar nai, msi aftrbrnr is enough...bios flash may raise a ??mark on ur warranty.
    It doesn't "raise a mark on your warranty". It's perfectly ok, then how come OC through AfterBurner ain't a problem ? You can always revert back to your original BIOS, with just a click. It's dangerous if you aren't aware of what you are doing, but it's the next best thing if you can OC through editing BIOS.

    Moreover, most of the manufacturer locks voltages, which can only be unlocked by editing BIOS. AB will only detect voltages, set default by the BIOS from the maker, but if you are in for more OV, it's the only choice.

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    vai, ei gobeshona bad den...bire jan, dekhen ki kuasha(fog) porse...don't miss it...

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    Default Re: Undervolting my heavily overclocked Asus ENGTX 560 DC II Top

    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Well, I can check it with TeamViewer if he wants. I'm pretty sure it's just an extension (error), why wouldn't those programs even fail to read a perfectly edited (or a non editied) BIOS, flashing to porer kotha.
    edit e kora jai na :S file error hoile amar .bin file kemne read kore amar card e? Well still check with him if u can find a solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    @musvi , I saw your thread at OCN, thought I reply there, but there are far more experts to answer your question, tai bother kori nai. Did it work though ?
    & Don't mind CvP, he' just noob at this xD!
    yeah but didn't get any help from them...

    and true that i'm a big noob in this field...

    ---------- Post added at 00:01 ---------- Previous post was at 00:00 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    I was just joking. If you didn't understand, no worries. Apologies.

    btw, why underclock for 2c only? Wouldn't an extra fan help more?
    bro let me laugh also, plz tell me what happened?

    ---------- Post added at 00:02 ---------- Previous post was at 00:01 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Well, I can check it with TeamViewer if he wants. I'm pretty sure it's just an extension (error), why wouldn't those programs even fail to read a perfectly edited (or a non editied) BIOS, flashing to porer kotha.
    sent u pm, plz check it..

    ---------- Post added at 00:02 ---------- Previous post was at 00:02 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    Bios flash er dorkar nai, msi aftrbrnr is enough...bios flash may raise a ??marj on ur warranty.
    yeah eita niye amio chintito..

    ---------- Post added at 00:04 ---------- Previous post was at 00:02 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    I was just joking. If you didn't understand, no worries. Apologies.

    btw, why underclock for 2c only? Wouldn't an extra fan help more?
    bro actually asus site theke bios update ta install korar por temps ta ektu beshi lagtese and auto fan profile tao oneek lame lagtese, tai vcore tweak kore dekhlam r ki

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    Quote Originally Posted by EviL AnGeL View Post
    well I tried every way but musvi bhaiyar card flash korte parinai...
    many thanks to u for ur effort..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    vai, ei gobeshona bad den...bire jan, dekhen ki kuasha(fog) porse...don't miss it...
    bhai amar eikhane toh shob jhokjhoka...

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