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    Default AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

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    Oh hey now, after months of speculation, rumors, and a lot, seriously a lot, of gossip AMD today finally puts an end to all that. Yes, the all new AMD FX series processors are released today -- octacores for the win my man, octomom will be pleased alright Though all press will actually review just the flagship processor, several processors are being launched.
    Previously known as Bulldozer and Zambezi, today the FX series is released. It will be AMD's most high-end and complicated to fab processor series to date, yet will remain an affordable processor series. As you probably know, the product tested today has eight (!) physical CPU cores, it will have a base clock of 3600 MHz, may Turbo to 3900 MHZ and can peak a thread or two towards a cool 4200 MHz. And that makes the FX series a multi-threaded monster.
    The new AMD FX series processors are all unlocked at no additional cost, and that means very tweakable as well. Performance for dollar is a phrase we'll use in today's review a lot actually.
    This initial launch will include six FX series processors, four of them featuring eight processing cores while the two other include six and respectively four cores. The fastest of the upcoming chips is called the FX-8150 (which we review today) and it sports a base frequency of 3.6GHz, a maximum Turbo frequency of 4.2GHz, 8MB of Level 2 cache memory, and has a TDP of 125W.
    Right bellow in line will be the FX-8120 that also packs eight processing cores and other similar features, but comes clocked at 3.1GHz (4GHz in Turbo mode). The FX-8120 will also be the only AMD FX-Series processor to be available in two different SKUs, one featuring a 125W TDP while the other is a 95W part.

    The three remaining processors are the FX-8100, which has a base frequency of 2.8GHz and a maximum Turbo frequency of 3.7GHz, the six-core FX-6100 with a 3.3GHz base speed, 3.8GHz Turbo and 6MB of Level 2 cache memory and the quad-core FX-4100, which is clocked at 3.6GHz and can reach 3.8GHz when Turbo Core is active.

    Today, AMD specifically launches four out of the six models, the FX-8150, 8120, 6100 and FX-4100. The other two will be inserted into the channel at a later stage.
    It's going to be an interesting ride to find out what the processor is good at, but the top model FX-8150 with its eight cores, which we review today, is a sub 245 USD product, in EUR we expect it to launch at roughly 225 EUR.
    Have a quick peek at the processor and then let's head onward into the review.
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    Courtesy to Guru3D
    Source: http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-processor-review/

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    nd Here we are with the 1st ever official review on the Bulldozers, Scorpio Platform!

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 processor review- Official from G3D

    Save yourselves the time:

    You have been able to see that the FX 8150 mostly is competing with the Core i5 2500 (which costs 180 EUR by the way). Once multithreading kicks in well, performance quickly rises and you'll see Core i7 2600 (260 EUR) performance. Surprisingly enough even the Phenom II X6 1100T (170 EUR) stands ground and is mostly on par with the FX 8150 a lot of the time, that complicates things even more. So where do we need to position the FX 8150 then? I mean, this is supposed to be AMD's fastest processor.

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    Definition of an epic fail.

    This is just sad, 2600K ke OC korle to dharer kaseo ashte parbe na. OC'd 8150 max time e match korena akta stock 2600k k.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 processor review- Official from G3D

    another review, this is a German site......
    disappointing amd........

    http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/20127.html




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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 processor review- Official from G3D

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    Save yourselves the time:

    You have been able to see that the FX 8150 mostly is competing with the Core i5 2500 (which costs 180 EUR by the way). Once multithreading kicks in well, performance quickly rises and you'll see Core i7 2600 (260 EUR) performance. Surprisingly enough even the Phenom II X6 1100T (170 EUR) stands ground and is mostly on par with the FX 8150 a lot of the time, that complicates things even more. So where do we need to position the FX 8150 then? I mean, this is supposed to be AMD's fastest processor.

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    Definition of an epic fail.

    This is just sad, 2600K ke OC korle to dharer kaseo ashte parbe na. OC'd 8150 max time e match korena akta stock 2600k k.
    Fail indeed. Sad to say, I wont be getting a Bulldozer even though I've a 990FX board! Bangladesh ei dhoroner CPU use kora jabe na, I mean did you look at those TDP charts ? Heck I miss my E8400 now. Ekbar current gelei UPS dhora khabe if it's OCed like that.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 processor review- Official from G3D

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review.htmlHC has a much better review:

    In order to hit 4.5Ghz, we set the vCore to 1.50V with some light Load-Line Calibration (LLC). At this voltage, the processor heated up considerably, reaching almost 70蚓 when being stress tested by Prime 95 In-place large FFTs.

    210Ws at stock.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    another review, what was amd thinking???

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/47155-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review.html


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    after so many years of development you would think bd should clearly outperform thuban, if not anything from intel....this is sad

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    I guess AMD's R&D team were taking hip hop dance classes, seriously what the 中中 is this 中中. I mean I had hopes for this even till before the NDA was lifted. Btw they couldve rather ramped up the Athlon architecture and Improved IPC and IMC on that proc which in my opinion wouldve been a much better move, thats what intel did anyway, they based teh core 2 on the pentium 3m,

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    AMD might potentially die because of this, I mean things arent the same as they used to be, more people now see benchmarks before getting their PC's, Its not the pentium 4 era. Morons Ill be waiting for Ivy bridge thank you very much !
    FTW!!!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    such poor performance from amd since the introduction of conroe architecture from intel back in 2006 is forcing me to accept the fact that "you just can't go wrong with intel"...........i hope amd's upcomming gpu's wouldn't show such poor performance or else...nvidia pricing-a gola katbe.....

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by eXsTatik View Post
    I guess AMD's R&D team were taking hip hop dance classes, seriously what the 中中 is this 中中. I mean I had hopes for this even till before the NDA was lifted. Btw they couldve rather ramped up the Athlon architecture and Improved IPC and IMC on that proc which in my opinion wouldve been a much better move, thats what intel did anyway, they based teh core 2 on the pentium 3m,

    ---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 ----------

    AMD might potentially die because of this, I mean things arent the same as they used to be, more people now see benchmarks before getting their PC's, Its not the pentium 4 era. Morons Ill be waiting for Ivy bridge thank you very much !
    LOL na AMD wont die because of this, they messed up the 1st generations of Phenoms with the TLB bug, but they are still in the game. AMD also has their Liano/GPUs- & they are doing very well in this field. What surprises me the most is that they are kind of forgetting that single core performance is just as important as ramping up the cores. It's just like with Netburst, INTEL failed miserably those days. Any good AMD followers would agree on this, Athlon/Thunderbird completely killed INTEL back in those days.

    INTEL turned the tables with the Core 2 Platform & then introduced Nehalems, now the SB & in the future SB-E/Ivy. AMD is loosing in the mainstream market & yes I do feel bad for them, they had 4yrs in their hands, only to come back with something which performs more or less similar to their previous generations.

    Now I feel like selling my 990FX board + my CPU to go for an i3, the least it's better in power consumption. While most of you guys are interested in performance-price, I'm more interested in performance per watt, it's a nightmare to run my PC when there's no electricity. 65W TDP CPUs are golden in my books.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 processor review- Official from G3D

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    Save yourselves the time:

    You have been able to see that the FX 8150 mostly is competing with the Core i5 2500 (which costs 180 EUR by the way). Once multithreading kicks in well, performance quickly rises and you'll see Core i7 2600 (260 EUR) performance. Surprisingly enough even the Phenom II X6 1100T (170 EUR) stands ground and is mostly on par with the FX 8150 a lot of the time, that complicates things even more. So where do we need to position the FX 8150 then? I mean, this is supposed to be AMD's fastest processor.
    .
    where do u get 2500k!!! let it catch 2100 first!....even in multithreaded game like Far Cry 2 its eight 中's are completely 中中ed by the dual core i3.......and surely AMD is going to be kicked by gamers once again....

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Sh!tdozer alright. How do you fail this bad after months of speculation? <_<;

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    that's very disappointing from AMD

    another review of AMD FX 8150
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...-8150-review/1
    Last edited by RonzDrive; October 12th, 2011 at 16:18.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Wintereise View Post
    Sh!tdozer alright. How do you fail this bad after months of speculation? <_<;
    its been years....

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    YEA, too disappointing...
    atleast it cope up with 2600k in multitreaded applications.
    kinle 6 core ta kina jae, dam jodi 12~13k hoe...
    ufffffffff.....purai netburst er moto.
    er cheye fidar khaoa bachha dia team banaito, aro valo cpu toiri korte parto...

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Something is definitely wrong imo, if you look carefully Bulldozer can't even beat its predecessor i.e Phenom-II, clock for clock. People are now blaming Windows 7's scheduler:

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    Moreover, the power requirements is hilarious. You would definitely need a good 750W unit if you were to pair a Bulldozer, say at 4.8GHz+ with a GTX570/GTX580 & it's not even feasible either. The 1st wave of these chips seems a big disaster, thinking of that power draw seems like a nightmare now :/

    Offtopic: What do you guys say, should I stick to AMD ? Or sell my current stuff & move to a cheap core i3 & call it a day ? I'm so baffled right now.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    Something is definitely wrong imo, if you look carefully Bulldozer can't even beat its predecessor i.e Phenom-II, clock for clock. People are now blaming Windows 7's scheduler:
    Yah! & a new patch for Win 7 is coming! & I am waiting for that! Its too early to judge! Just think, why the hell FX 8150 is not even better then 1100T? AMD is not that noob! right?

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Disappointing indeed, but lets look at things from a realistic perspective for a second. First of all, focusing on gaming benchmarks when its done at low resolutions isnt really ideal. Have a look here, at high resolutions the 8150 has no trouble competing, and the only anomaly is Civ 5 which fluctuates wildly from platform to platform as you'l see here when the tables are turned (look at Civ5). So what do you get? Pretty much no difference in performance at higher resolutions in the latest titles but then again, as a gaming CPU SB is certainly better, just not by as much as people make it out to be.

    Secondly, lets find out the causes for this problem. AMD had a target of 30% clock speed increase over Phenom II. They failed. Why? The architecture itself has no trouble scaling clock speeds, the problem is the process. GloFo is having lots of trouble with their 32nm process and this is well known by insiders, that is affecting both Llano and Bulldozer. Dont you wonder why Llano at 32nm clocks worse than 45nm Phenoms when they both have the same architecture? 32nm manufacturing issues, simple. They will be ironed out in the coming months and we can hopefully see what the architecture's initial target was. And no, shrinking Phenom II would be fail because od the reason I just mentioned.

    Third, I want to address a market which most of us dont care but AMD do. Server market. Compare 8150 to the 2500K in heavily threaded applications and the 8150 generally comes out on top. For this scenario, dont compare it to the 2600K because HT usually is disabled for server markets (let me know if you want to know why). Server markets are where the money is generally at, AMD needs the money to compete well in the future and I suspect they can recover lost ground here as they seem to be very competitive there.

    Finally, lets sum up the processor itself. Performs between 2500K and 2600K in multithreaded tasks, ties them at high res gaming but much slower at lower resolutions. Single threaded tasks are as slow as Phenom II, but those apps are getting rare nowadays. Hugely disappointing, but not devoid of hope. We all have to remember that the architecture is a significant departure from any other CPU created yet. As such, old legacy apps and single threaded apps perform poorly, no doubt about that. This CPU isnt made for those apps, simply said. What this CPU is made for are applications optimised to take advantage of newer instruction sets and lots of threads ie. servers and future desktop applications. Take the newest applications released and you will see what im talking about. Winrar 4 and X-264 with AVX got released just days back, and even with the process and clock problems the 8150 performs at or above the 2600 as you will see here. Power consumption is extremely disappointing, idle power is okay but at load, its really a bulldozer. Why? Process problems mostly, the leakage is extremely high and not letting AMD get good power consumption nor clock it as high as they wanted. Hopefully, they will be ironed out in time.

    We need newer applications designed to take advantage of more threads (which is thankfully rolling out fast), we need Windows 8 (which will give around 10% perf increase with BD for free) and finally, we need the process problems to be ironed out so BD can reach the clocks it targeted but failed to reach. This is a necessity, as it will only help us immensely. How? Look at Intel and SB. Whoever says SB pricing is good throughout the range are just wrong. For many years I have been overclocking cheap processors into oblivion. SB? Minimum amount to be spent is $200+ to get a 2500K, others dont OC for crap. This isnt ideal, and simply wouldnt happen if AMD gets intel back to its ultra-competitive mode.

    Anandtech, as usual, had a good set of applications which i linked to above as well, and summed up best as you can read over here. I suggest you read it. Alas, thanks for reading my essay

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    AMD's market share in the server market is a joke: http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/a...r-of-the-roos/

    Besides, servers don't change processors every year, maybe not even every 5 years. So betting an architecture for such a market while having such slow share in the first place is just downright stupid. Furthermore even the performance difference isn't that much and the power consumption is too high for the server markets to consider moving to this platform. They'll wait for the next BD or get Ivy.

    And 200USD isn't a lot when you consider what a 2500K offers, thats the universal opinion as far as I can tell. And now that there will be a price cut, it'll have even more value when OC'd. BD just doesn't cut it, its pricing isn't impressive which AMD has always been good at.

    And the biggest problem of them all, this is the 8150 we are talking about here, the so called fastest of this line up. Whats going to save the lower end processors lol.

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    Default Re: AMD FX 8150 Reviews And Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Devil View Post
    Yah! & a new patch for Win 7 is coming! & I am waiting for that! Its too early to judge! Just think, why the hell FX 8150 is not even better then 1100T? AMD is not that noob! right?
    Still have my hopes up for this!

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