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    3 items that can't be changed preety much is the processor, need a i7 5820k, gpu > 980Ti (not sure which variant though) and the case must be one of these two : http://www.g-alantic.com.tw/3099/ga2300/ OR http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?t...el=AK-ITX05-BK

    So pleasee help suggest a build for the components that support any one of these two cases. budget around 1800usd. (excluding monitor)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    3 items that can't be changed preety much is the processor, need a i7 5820k, gpu > 980Ti (not sure which variant though) and the case must be one of these two : http://www.g-alantic.com.tw/3099/ga2300/ OR http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?t...el=AK-ITX05-BK

    So pleasee help suggest a build for the components that support any one of these two cases. budget around 1800usd. (excluding monitor)
    Since you are going with a 5820k you'll need a X99 MoBo, and pretty much the only choice right now for it is the ASRock X99E-ITX/ac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    Since you are going with a 5820k you'll need a X99 MoBo, and pretty much the only choice right now for it is the ASRock X99E-ITX/ac.
    hmm will have to get that then, is it any good? and about the other components.. having a rough time finding stuff that is compatible with the case

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    none of the cases you have decided can house both 5820k and 980ti. you need much larger case for that. and with asrock x99ac, you are limited to the cooler comes with it. you cant use aftermarket cooler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by codename5302 View Post
    none of the cases you have decided can house both 5820k and 980ti. you need much larger case for that. and with asrock x99ac, you are limited to the cooler comes with it. you cant use aftermarket cooler.
    Really none? what's the best i can get with a case of this size then?

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    I'd strongly advice that you reconsider your options. If you want this to be really an ITX build, choose a graphics card accordingly. This includes the inclusion of ITX variants of GPUS, like the GTX 970 mini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    Really none? what's the best i can get with a case of this size then?
    come on!!! dont you read what's written on the sites? the akasa one itself is almost the size of 980 ti. those cases are made for HTPC. you cant add graphics card there. you need much bigger case for your requirement. and there is no case in that size that can help you put 5820 & 980ti at the same time. you have to compromise on either space or configuration. why dont you try pre built systems like this, this, or msi nightblade?

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    Okay after spending the night researching and not finding anything it's a normal sized setup after all... getting this :

    x) i7 6700k @349$
    x) MSI Z1701 Xpower gaming titanium edition LGA1151 @299$
    x) Corsair H105 Liquid cpu cooler @100$
    x) Corsair vengence LPX 16gb (2x8gb) DDR4-2400 Memory @118$
    x) Intel 750 Series 400gb PCI-E SSD / Seagate 2TB Hybrid drive @470$(both)
    x) MSI geforce GTX 980 Ti 6GB @670$
    x) NZXT Phantom 410 (White) @79$
    x) Cooler Master VSM 750W gold certified semi modular PSU @79$
    x) Asus BC Bluray reader, DVD/CD writer @54$

    Total 2217$ with some added rebates it'll be 2200$. So is it good for the price or can i get better for it? preferrably at 2000$ since it's 200$ overbudget atm.
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    Any IPC advantage on using Extreme series i7s vs normal i7s? :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybaris Caesar View Post
    Any IPC advantage on using Extreme series i7s vs normal i7s? :/
    it's apparently 4-8% faster. and the price is just a bit 20-30$ more and it's has a newer architecture so thought why not?

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    that's perfect. go for it.

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    Only compatibility issues with this build is this : "The NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 305mm long, but video cards over 230mm may block drive bays. Since the MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card is 282mm long, some drive bays may not be usable." is this a very serious problem? the only remedy i can really find of this is getting the Fury X instead as it takes up less space and there won't be any issue. if the problem isn't that serious i'll just go with the 980 Ti.

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    phantom's drive cage is removable. you are good to go.

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    getting the 980Ti then, should be finalising the order by the end of this week! btw which FOC card for the 980Ti is best? i chose MSI since that's the motherboard im getting and never had any problems with MSI's gpu but im hearing the EVGA ones are much better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    Only compatibility issues with this build is this : "The NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 305mm long, but video cards over 230mm may block drive bays. Since the MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card is 282mm long, some drive bays may not be usable." is this a very serious problem? the only remedy i can really find of this is getting the Fury X instead as it takes up less space and there won't be any issue. if the problem isn't that serious i'll just go with the 980 Ti.

    Well you are using PCIe based storage, and also only need 1 HDD bay (for now) so I don't think it'll be a major problem for now, given that you hopefully won't need more than 2.4 TERABYTES of storage.


    I recall from an earlier post of yours (in an earlier thread where you asked for MoBo purchase help) that you were building this for your cousin, and you said she needed it for Video/Photo editing, in that case I'll suggest more RAM as this will make the rendering quicker.
    Also if she is using Adobe CC programs (like Photoshop, Premiere or After Effects) then the GPU (in terms of performance) doesn't matter much, Dmitry from HardwareCanucks (YouTube Channel ICYDK) mentioned in a Tweet that the performance in rendering has basically no difference. There is a difference in gaming though, so choose wisely on what you (or your cousin if that's the case) require, rather than just putting top of the line Gaming specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    getting the 980Ti then, should be finalising the order by the end of this week! btw which FOC card for the 980Ti is best? i chose MSI since that's the motherboard im getting and never had any problems with MSI's gpu but im hearing the EVGA ones are much better?

    See this (link to video), here JayzTwoCents has the benchmarks of MSI 980Ti and there he compares it to the EVGA Hybrid one, and Gigabyte G1 one. I don't want to watch it all over again (saw it when it came out, forgot the benchmarks) so you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    Well you are using PCIe based storage, and also only need 1 HDD bay (for now) so I don't think it'll be a major problem for now, given that you hopefully won't need more than 2.4 TERABYTES of storage.


    I recall from an earlier post of yours (in an earlier thread where you asked for MoBo purchase help) that you were building this for your cousin, and you said she needed it for Video/Photo editing, in that case I'll suggest more RAM as this will make the rendering quicker.
    Also if she is using Adobe CC programs (like Photoshop, Premiere or After Effects) then the GPU (in terms of performance) doesn't matter much, Dmitry from HardwareCanucks (YouTube Channel ICYDK) mentioned in a Tweet that the performance in rendering has basically no difference. There is a difference in gaming though, so choose wisely on what you (or your cousin if that's the case) require, rather than just putting top of the line Gaming specs.
    yes it's for her! my pc sucks in comparison lol. so do you reckon i should get it up to 24gigs of RAM instead of 16? her work will be mostly making short movies as projects so editing and rendering is a priority. and she does play some games but not THAT much into it (mostly those high fantasy series) but since she gave me the budget for it ( im 200$ over budget :/ ) might as well put it in. (she also had a gsync monitor left unused)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehsas View Post
    yes it's for her! my pc sucks in comparison lol. so do you reckon i should get it up to 24gigs of RAM instead of 16? her work will be mostly making short movies as projects so editing and rendering is a priority. and she does play some games but not THAT much into it (mostly those high fantasy series) but since she gave me the budget for it ( im 200$ over budget :/ ) might as well put it in. (she also had a gsync monitor left unused)


    More RAM = Faster render. She doesn't want to wait forever for her clips to load up, and then all the effects and all that to render together with the video, so if she wants to save time them it's better to get more RAM, unlike in a Gaming scenario, RAM is VERY important in rendering. You took a great decision by going with that PCIe SSD, because that will improve performance a lot in these situations.

    If she is not that much into gaming then getting a very high end GPU doesn't matter much, if she doesn't need all games at 4K/2K with maxed out settings (Ultra) and 60fps+ then a 980 Ti is not essential, but if her rendering tasks use GPU acceleration and she is using a lot of motion effects and all that then 980 Ti is a good choice. If things fit in your budget then get the best possible, but in this case building it from a gamer's perspective is just not gonna cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    More RAM = Faster render. She doesn't want to wait forever for her clips to load up, and then all the effects and all that to render together with the video, so if she wants to save time them it's better to get more RAM, unlike in a Gaming scenario, RAM is VERY important in rendering. You took a great decision by going with that PCIe SSD, because that will improve performance a lot in these situations.

    If she is not that much into gaming then getting a very high end GPU doesn't matter much, if she doesn't need all games at 4K/2K with maxed out settings (Ultra) and 60fps+ then a 980 Ti is not essential, but if her rendering tasks use GPU acceleration and she is using a lot of motion effects and all that then 980 Ti is a good choice. If things fit in your budget then get the best possible, but in this case building it from a gamer's perspective is just not gonna cut it.
    The spare monitor that we have is only 1440p so she can't game at 4k i guess and no she does light gaming at best. so if RAM is really that much important would it be better to get this ? http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2133MH.../dp/B00URYU93C and go for a cheaper gpu?

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    The spare monitor that we have is only 1440p so she can't game at 4k i guess and no she does light gaming at best. so if RAM is really that much important would it be better to get this ? http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2133MH.../dp/B00URYU93C and go for a cheaper gpu?

    I'm not sure about that RAM, mainly because it has no reviews. Currently if the cost of RAM is an issue then maybe you could wait and just see the performance with 16 GB, later you can upgrade with some more. Also if she does light gaming and doesn't need extremely fast render then maybe you could go with a 980, save some bucks for future upgrades, or just spend it for the RAM. Also I don't know how much editing and rendering she does, but if she does a lot of it and requires faster performance then I'll suggest to upgrade to an Enthusiast grade chip when possible, because i believe more cores are important in rendering, as more tasks in the process can be finished quicker, but for now I think Skylake is fine, I just wanted to give a suggestion that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z.a.s View Post
    I'm not sure about that RAM, mainly because it has no reviews. Currently if the cost of RAM is an issue then maybe you could wait and just see the performance with 16 GB, later you can upgrade with some more. Also if she does light gaming and doesn't need extremely fast render then maybe you could go with a 980, save some bucks for future upgrades, or just spend it for the RAM. Also I don't know how much editing and rendering she does, but if she does a lot of it and requires faster performance then I'll suggest to upgrade to an Enthusiast grade chip when possible, because i believe more cores are important in rendering, as more tasks in the process can be finished quicker, but for now I think Skylake is fine, I just wanted to give a suggestion that's it.
    yeah it got me thinking a lot mostly about getting a (1x32gb) card for 370$ it's just three companies offering it atm and also hp but theirs is too expensive, and getting a 100$ cheaper gpu like the nano since it comes out this month to negate the added 100$ cost for the RAM.

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