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    Default [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Design was borrowed from picture frame lineup

    Tech fans were rocked this morning by news that a German court had granted Apple, Inc. (AAPL) an effective monopoly on tablets, by banning competitors from making rival tablet designs. As usual DailyTech has some outstandingly sharp readers, who raised a couple points that were so juicy, a followup was in order.

    One reader, Solandri, points to this digital picture frame created by Samsung Electronics Comp, Ltd. (SEO 005930) in 2006. Complete with an 800x480 pixel LCD screen, the device also packed 32MB of internal memory, support for SD, CF and USB devices for memory expansion, and built-in Ethernet for networking.

    The device is essentially a tablet -- only, at the time Samsung referred to it as a "digital picture frame". The device was to be used as a fancy piece of digital art.

    Now this device was made four years before Apple released its first iPad. And it looks virtually identical to the iPad -- and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 -- in its minimalist design.

    Apple chairman, former CEO, and co-founder, Steven P. Jobs has bragged about his mastery of stealing ideas from others, stating [video], "Picasso had a saying - 'Good artists copy, great artists steal.' And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

    So did Samsung "slavishly copy" Apple or did Apple "steal" from Samsung's
    "great idea"? Consider the following:

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    2004:


    Apple patents a design for a tablet in the U.S. [link] and in Europe [link]. However, the device doesn't look much like the iPad of the future. Specifically, the device is much thicker (see Fig. 6) than the eventual iPad design, it has no face buttons (see Fig. 1), and has a much thinner bezel (see Fig. 1) than the original iPad.

    In short it bears substantial differences from any product Apple would actually produce.



    Images in the design look curiously like those from science fiction movies:



    RECAP:
    Apple has produced no commercial products at this point, but has patented a design that looks suspiciously like widely published science fiction designs. The result looks little like the iPad of the future.

    2006:

    Samsung produces digital picture frames, which are essentially tablets as we know them today, though it lacks an advanced operating system (Android/iOS), multi-touch, or sound.

    The device matches the iPad in thickness in some areas (except at the ethernet port region) and the bezel is closer to the iPad's.



    Two important things to note are that the back of this design (see side images), doesn't look much like an iPad or Galaxy Tab 10.1. Second, Samsung's subsequent (2008-era) models abandoned this iconic look. That said, the face of this commercially sold picture frame is a virtual doppelganger for the eventual iPad and Galaxy Tab 10.1 look.

    RECAP:
    Samsung has essentially produced the modern tablet as we know it, sans multi-touch and sound. The only problem? It doesn't realize the value of what it's created, and it lacks an operating system to let users take full advantage of this breakthrough.

    2010:

    Apple redesigns its tablet and releases it commercially. The result is substantially different its own patented design from four years prior:



    But it does show some striking similarities to Samsung's (unpatented) picture frame design:



    RECAP:
    Apple has deviated from its patented design to produce a multi-touch tablet that parrots some aspects of the look of Samsung's picture frame-cum-tablet device. Granted there's substantial differences between the tablet and the "picture frame", but there's equal or greater differences between the iPad and the patented design from 2004.

    2011:

    Samsung takes its picture frame, revamps the back, and inserts a multi-touch display and slightly updated internals, trimming the bezel. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is born.



    RECAP:
    Samsung now realizes the gold mine they've designed and debuts a tablet with superior screen resolution, memory, and wireless modem to Apple's design. They expect it to be a hit and safe from lawsuits. After all, their design is derivative from an in-house design 4 years before Apple and doesn't look much like anything Apple has patented.

    Sept. 2011:
    A German court decides that Samsung's new tablet infringes upon Apple's patented design. The ruling stands in direct opposition to the neighboring Netherlands court, which took a thorough look at that 2004 European Community Design claim filed in Spanish court and realized that it looked nothing like the iPad, much less the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

    RECAP:
    Apple has essentially sued Samsung and won for a design which it never patented. The court somehow has confused Apple's current design, with the 2004 patent which bears little semblance to either the iPad or the Tab 10.1.
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    We leave it to our readers to judge for themselves what they think of this timeline. We have resized the images used therein, but in all cases have maintained the original aspet ratios we found them in. We encourage you to leave feedback.

    Again, a big thanks to Solandri for digging up the 2006 Engadget post on that "picture frame"/tablet.


    Source

    WHO IS THE REAL THIEF?
    seeing is believing..

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Ei khetre age patent korar beparta e Applie k slight advantage dichche, jodio later stage a orao copy marce but samsung to ar oi digital camera k tablet device hishebe patent kore nai, law er marpatch e apple beche gelo

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Apple's gonna be apple, it can't be helped. ( ´,_ゝ`)プッ

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    All the more more reasons to NOT buy Apple pro-ducts.Buying their stuffs = support them.

    Giddy can be traced back to the same Germanic root *gud– that has given us the word God

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Fighting fire with fire!

    The Tables Have Turned… HTC Sues Apple
    If you thought that TV offers good drama with their reality based shows, you may want to take a quick look at the courtrooms that house Apple and HTC’ s legal teams.For the last year and change, we have seen lots of arguing and a lot of back and forth between portable electronics manufacturers about who has done what. As you already know from some of my past articles (and really from news all over the web), Apple has been showering HTC, Samsung, and several others with patent infringment lawsuits (many of them sketchy at best). But no military can fight that many big adversaries at the same time, and if you remember the hydra analogy I made a while back, it looks as if one of the heads that was about to be chopped off just got a helping hand from the body of the beast… Google. Towards the end of last month, Google decided to give HTC rights to 9 patents that they had obtained from various sources including Palm, Openwave, and Motorola. Interestingly enough, these patents involve actions and functionality for mobile devices that Apple product owners very much enjoy. So, having these on hand allowed the Taiwanese tiger to finally show their claws and countersued Apple on a few of these.According to the source, the infringed patents involve:
    * the ability to do wireless software upgrades;
    * a way to transfer data between a microprocessor and a support chip;
    * a method to store user preferences;
    * a way to consistently contact between application software and a radio modem.

    If these patents sound generic enough to you, that is probably because they are. So, what we are looking at right now is the proverbial fire being fought with fire. Someone is bound to get seriously burned, and from the looks of it, Apple is getting warmer.
    A final thought on this as I was reading up on the source article, there is one statement that hadn’t hit us before and that was Mr. Jobs’ statement when this whole thing blew up, one that has been repeated by Apple on numerous occasions including in their latest assault targeting HTC’s pads: “we think competition is healthy but competitors should create their own original technology and not steal ours.” Unless I am missing out on something rather obvious, the iPad is far from being an original creation. In terms of portability, slate computers have been around for a very long while now, so the tab is not a new concept at all. So, what original technology is Apple referring to in this particular case?
    For now, I am going to get some popcorn ready to continue enjoying all this drama as it unfolds. From a completely biased view, I wish the hydra monster the best of luck in this endeavour. And Apple, much like I said the other day when AT&T got their share of lawsuits, you deserve what you have coming for you.
    You can find more information in the original thread.
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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Quote Originally Posted by GiDDY_SOUL View Post
    All the more more reasons to NOT buy Apple pro-ducts.Buying their stuffs = support them.
    Samsung should've patented their designs anyway. This is the corporate world, just because it isn't ethical doesn't mean its not legal.

    This was an interesting read too though its not exactly related to this topic: techcrunch.com/2011/09/10/samsung-quietly-continues-to-conquer-the-world/

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    The only thing Apple "invented" first is a GUI OS. Everything else by them is bullshi and stolen.
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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    Samsung should've patented their designs anyway. This is the corporate world, just because it isn't ethical doesn't mean its not legal.

    This was an interesting read too though its not exactly related to this topic: techcrunch.com/2011/09/10/samsung-quietly-continues-to-conquer-the-world/
    LOL are u kidding me? Next time Patent a plane or watch design or a generic car with 4 wheels. From then on Sue any company building a plane with 2 wings or a watch with a round shape and glossy exterior or a car with 4 wheels.

    How about some 1 Patent the LCD monitor / LCD TV Design . Most of them looks similar.


    The Design is so simple and state of the Art that every modern device looks similar.. be it mobile, table, photo frame u name it.

    Do u think the design was soooo unique that its worth patenting?

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    Default Re: [DT] EDITORIAL: Apple's Patent Didn't Look Much Like the iPad -- or Samsung Tab 10.1

    ummm it must have been? Or else the patent wouldn't have been granted. All patents use generic terms so that they can be applied for other things as well. Nothing new there. And I'm sure there are patents for designs of planes

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