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    Default Time Travel proven impossible.

    Sorry Doc, Scientists Say Time Travel Is Impossible.



    Dashing the hopes of "Back to the Future" and "Bill and Ted" fans alike, a group of Hong Kong scientists claims that recent research proves that time travel is impossible.

    A team at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, led by Professor Shengwang Du, has concluded that single photons cannot travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. Unfortunately for time travel buffs, photons apparently obey the laws of physics, regardless of whether you have a magic phone booth or can get that DeLorean up to 88 miles per hour.


    "The results add to our understanding of how a single photon moves. They also confirm the upper bound on how fast information travels with light," Professor Du said in a statement. "By showing that single photons cannot travel faster than the speed of light, our results bring a closure to the debate on the true speed of information carried by a single photon. Our findings will also likely have potential applications by giving scientists a better picture on the transmission of quantum information."

    According to Du, the scientific community got all excited about time travel several years ago with the discovery of "superluminal propagation of optical pulses," which basically said that a group of optical pulses could move faster than the speed of the light. Du, however, said this was only a visual effect and could not actually be used to transmit real information. People then focused on a single photon moving faster than the speed of light, but "because of lack of experimental evidence of single photon velocity, this is also an open debate among physicists," Du said.

    As a result, Du's team measured the maximum speed of a single proton, which showed that it obeys the universe's speed limit and "confirms Einstein's causality; that is, an effect cannot occur before its cause," researchers said.

    In their tests, researchers managed to separate the optical precursor, a wave-like structure at the front of an optical pulse, from the rest of the photon wave packet. To accomplish this, Du's team created a pair of photons and passed one of them through a group of laser-cooled rubidium atoms, which allowed them to observe optical precursors for the first time.

    "The team found that, as the fastest part of a single photon, the precursor wave front always travels at the speed of light in vacuum," researchers said. "The main wave packet of the single photon travels no faster than the speed of light in vacuum in any dispersive medium, and can be delayed up to 500 nanoseconds in a slow light medium. Even in a superluminal medium where the group velocity (of an optical pulse peak) is faster than the speed of light in vacuum, the main part of the single photon has no possibility to travel faster than its precursor."

    So, until someone came come up with something that travels faster than the speed of light, it looks like time travel will be confined to movies and TV.


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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    it was always impossible. just a wild wild imagination. that could never come true.. joddi eta hoto, duniya, ar duniya thakto na.

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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    According to Quran, I think it is said to be possible. Isn't it?
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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Pff, Time does not exist.



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    Only time will say.

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    No comment
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    manush er pokhhe possible hoile shobai history re-write korte korte obosheshe bishhojogot er history theke shob low-level format maira delete koira dito... ekhoni bhalo asi... lol

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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    According to Quran, I think it is said to be possible. Isn't it?
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    In which Sura?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anik_lc View Post
    In which Sura?
    Not going to the past but stopping time.
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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    According to Quran, I think it is said to be possible. Isn't it?
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    yes its possible as per Quran. But that was done to Prophet (the reason why we celebrate Shab e Meraj). I dont think we, as normal humans, can do it. Even I dont believe it is possible to do time travelling bcoz I highly doubt we can even reach the speed of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    yes its possible as per Quran. But that was done to Prophet (the reason why we celebrate Shab e Meraj). I dont think we, as normal humans, can do it. Even I dont believe it is possible to do time travelling bcoz I highly doubt we can even reach the speed of light.
    exactly... and here is the evidence that we wont be able to, in Sura Ar Rahman, Verse 33
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    (55:33) O company of jinn and men, if you have the power to go beyond the bounds of the heavens and the earth, go beyond them! Yet you will be unable to go beyond them for that requires infinite power.

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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by HolySlayer View Post
    manush er pokhhe possible hoile shobai history re-write korte korte obosheshe bishhojogot er history theke shob low-level format maira delete koira dito... ekhoni bhalo asi... lol
    exactly ai jinish tai kau bhujte chai na.

    Time travelling actually means u can travel vast distances in very little time. But u cant go back in time to change history. Aita possible na. The only way is to move forward or stand still but going back in time is simply impossible.

    For example, if u can travel at 100 times the speed of light, then u can go and see a star dying somewhere in the galaxy. However when u come back to eath, u will still see the star shining brightly from our sky because the light carrying the information that star is dying has not yet reach earth. U can say u have seen the future. But u can never alter the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    exactly ai jinish tai kau bhujte chai na.

    Time travelling actually means u can travel vast distances in very little time. But u cant go back in time to change history. Aita possible na. The only way is to move forward or stand still but going back in time is simply impossible.

    For example, if u can travel at 100 times the speed of light, then u can go and see a star dying somewhere in the galaxy. However when u come back to eath, u will still see the star shining brightly from our sky because the light carrying the information that star is dying has not yet reach earth. U can say u have seen the future. But u can never alter the past.
    but even then its not the future one might have seen... its just the present at a different area.. just the light takes time and so we see the past from the earth... travelling immensely fast would slow down the relative local time by the inverse square law... so the faster you travel, the slower the surroundings appear... but since its an exponentially decreasing relationship... time will never even come to a halt... i.e. time will not come to a complete stop... and by the time you will be approaching 1/100th of the speed of light, ur mass will start increasing.... so it 'is' impossible... except if we had 'infinite' power to keep us going even when masses started to increase at an exponential rate as to limit our rate of acceleration...
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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Albart Einstein ei thread ta dekhle kante kante mara jaito.

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    ajke possible na mone hok 100 year pore je possible hobe na ta ke bolte pare ...100 year age ki scientist ra chinta korsilo je 22nm processor banano possible !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumen View Post
    Albart Einstein ei thread ta dekhle kante kante mara jaito.
    well... einstein gravity dia time-space warp korar concept express korar porei oneke ei idea ber korsilo je black hole er immense gravity may distort the fabric of space-time... ei idea onno scientist ra shunar pore bolsilo, taile to ekta black hole space bend kore onno arekta black hole e jaia end up korte pare? ei idea einstein shunar pore bolsilo ''ei kaaj koira laabh ki?'' so i guess einstein otota bothered hoito na...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolySlayer View Post
    but even then its not the future one might have seen... its just the present at a different area.. just the light takes time and so we see the past from the earth... travelling immensely fast would slow down the relative local time by the inverse square law... so the faster you travel, the slower the surroundings appear... but since its an exponentially decreasing relationship... time will never even come to a halt... i.e. time will not come to a complete stop... and by the time you will be approaching 1/100th of the speed of light, ur mass will start increasing.... so it 'is' impossible... except if we had 'infinite' power to keep us going even when masses started to increase at an exponential rate as to limit our rate of acceleration...
    oitai boltesi je it is not actually time travelling. It is just travelling great distance in very small amount of time. So time travelling word ta extremely misleading.

    Amra jeta fiction ba movie te dekhi je past e giye future alter kore felse, oi time travelling is not possible. It is actually a fiction.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel

    Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible, given the phenomenon oftime dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox), as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.


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    ajke possible na mone hok 100 year pore je possible hobe na ta ke bolte pare ...100 year age ki scientist ra chinta korsilo je 22nm processor banano possible !!!
    ha hoite paare pore possible but still it takes light to reach other galaxies millions of years. How do u expect to travel to a different galaxy in suppose 1 day ?????

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    oitai boltesi je it is not actually time travelling. It is just travelling great distance in very small amount of time. So time travelling word ta extremely misleading.

    Amra jeta fiction ba movie te dekhi je past e giye future alter kore felse, oi time travelling is not possible. It is actually a fiction.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel
    YES...

    time time er moto cholte thaake... amra fast hoile onek kom time e kaj korte parbo... but etto fast kaaj kora possible na je ami time pass howar aage kaaj kore fellam... ar duinyar shobai 1st e freeze hoya gelo.. pore shob rewind howa start korlo.. it is just not possible if u understand the fundamentals of physics. However its quite a thought we like to speculate... works for stories and movies..

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    oitai boltesi je it is not actually time travelling. It is just travelling great distance in very small amount of time. So time travelling word ta extremely misleading.

    Amra jeta fiction ba movie te dekhi je past e giye future alter kore felse, oi time travelling is not possible. It is actually a fiction.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel



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    ha hoite paare pore possible but still it takes light to reach other galaxies millions of years. How do u expect to travel to a different galaxy in suppose 1 day ?????
    right... bepar hochhe.. 100 years pore newton er laws of motion will not change... so will not the nature and characteristics of gravity, electromagnetism and electromagnatic waves... so I am not that optimistic about time travel with the laws of the existing universe and the maximum useful level of energy humans could use...

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    Quote Originally Posted by @nonymous View Post
    ajke possible na mone hok 100 year pore je possible hobe na ta ke bolte pare ...100 year age ki scientist ra chinta korsilo je 22nm processor banano possible !!!
    If they can make time travel possible in 100 years,why don't they come to 2011 from future and say it's possible??

    I think time travel would be possible if someone can travel at light's speed which isn't that possible :/


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    Default Re: Time Travel proven impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank3nst3in View Post
    If they can make time travel possible in 100 years,why don't they come to 2011 from future and say it's possible??

    I think time travel would be possible if someone can travel at light's speed which isn't that possible :/
    here is the ans.
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    exactly ai jinish tai kau bhujte chai na.

    Time travelling actually means u can travel vast distances in very little time. But u cant go back in time to change history. Aita possible na. The only way is to move forward or stand still but going back in time is simply impossible
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