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    My current (really old) UPS is failing every time during power switch but the battery is recently replaced. So I'm looking for a high VA UPS without battery if possible.

    Otherwise I'll need to buy one and the current battery (which cost more than 6000tk iirc) will be wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    My current (really old) UPS is failing every time during power switch but the battery is recently replaced. So I'm looking for a high VA UPS without battery if possible.

    Otherwise I'll need to buy one and the current battery (which cost more than 6000tk iirc) will be wasted.
    interested on the circuit, does it provide any backup? (i got to submit an AVRS project soon so this type of circuit would have been huge help, I can pay btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    My current (really old) UPS is failing every time during power switch but the battery is recently replaced. So I'm looking for a high VA UPS without battery if possible.

    Otherwise I'll need to buy one and the current battery (which cost more than 6000tk iirc) will be wasted.
    interested on the circuit, does it provide any backup? (i got to submit an AVRS project soon so this type of circuit would have been huge help, I can pay btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    interested on the circuit, does it provide any backup? (i got to submit an AVRS project soon so this type of circuit would have been huge help, I can pay btw)
    The switching mechanism is messed up. Takes over a second or two to switch. That's the only issue :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    interested on the circuit, does it provide any backup? (i got to submit an AVRS project soon so this type of circuit would have been huge help, I can pay btw)
    The switching mechanism is messed up. Takes over a second or two to switch. That's the only issue :/
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
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    if budget permits, i have an online dell ups (3kva)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    The switching mechanism is messed up. Takes over a second or two to switch. That's the only issue :/

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    The switching mechanism is messed up. Takes over a second or two to switch. That's the only issue :/
    wondering what could be the issue, but it provides back up right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoAIDoO View Post
    if budget permits, i have an online dell ups (3kva)
    Without battery? Can I use the battery I have? How much will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    wondering what could be the issue, but it provides back up right?
    Yeah. Electricity goes, PC restarts. Can easily hold up even with sustained load on GPU. Power comes back, restart again
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Without battery? Can I use the battery I have? How much will it cost?


    Yeah. Electricity goes, PC restarts. Can easily hold up even with sustained load on GPU. Power comes back, restart again
    i am afraid to say, but switching to online ups could the wise solution. now-a-days offline ups are becoming very much vulnerable in compare to our power distribution system.

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    My PC stays on 24/7 and power out isn't much of an issue. Goes out rarely and there's 24/7 auto generator. Only need something during the transition. Online UPS would be too much for this...right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    My PC stays on 24/7 and power out isn't much of an issue. Goes out rarely and there's 24/7 auto generator. Only need something during the transition. Online UPS would be too much for this...right?
    whats ur total power load in watt? or u can give me a list of hw that u will use.

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    could be the fault of the mechanical relays, usually they are very fast, in worst case 4ms maybe, faster ones can even switch within microseconds, and in that 4ms outage your PSU should handle that because minimum standard ATX PSU's Hold up time is 16ms or higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Without battery? Can I use the battery I have? How much will it cost?
    dell 3kva ups er market price most probably 120k+; etar battery requirement ta dekha lagbe ami sure na. price 35k er niche kora jabe bole mone hosse na. UPS ta amar office a ase idle. battery o ase but thik ase kina jani na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoAIDoO View Post
    dell 3kva ups er market price most probably 120k+; etar battery requirement ta dekha lagbe ami sure na. price 35k er niche kora jabe bole mone hosse na. UPS ta amar office a ase idle. battery o ase but thik ase kina jani na.
    @CvP this a 2700 watt unit. r u sure u need such a big UPS? Do remember this UPS will be quite costly to maintain. whenever u need to replace the batt u have to buy 8 SLA batteries. 8x1300= 10400 BDT approx correct me if im wrong @OoAIDoO

    on top of that u need to have new batteries just to test the unit's full functionality. but this is 1 heck of a unit if it still operates like it should.

    If u decide to step on online UPS + long back up then buy a long run online UPS model that has external battery terminal.
    (Long run online UPS doesn't come with batteries though)
    Last edited by minitt; July 26th, 2015 at 18:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    @CvP this a 2700 watt unit. r u sure u need such a big UPS? Do remember this UPS will be quite costly to maintain. whenever u need to replace the batt u have to buy 8 SLA batteries. 8x1300= 10400 BDT approx correct me if im wrong @OoAIDoO

    on top of that u need to have new batteries just to test the unit's full functionality. but this is 1 heck of a unit if it still operates like it should.

    If u decide to step on online UPS + long back up then buy a long run online UPS model that has external battery terminal.
    (Long run online UPS doesn't come with batteries though)
    since he said he has generator backup. he won't be needing long or extended model. a simple online ups will do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    whats ur total power load in watt? or u can give me a list of hw that u will use.
    One monitor, kb mouse, cpu, gpu, 3 hdd, usb headphone.

    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    could be the fault of the mechanical relays, usually they are very fast, in worst case 4ms maybe, faster ones can even switch within microseconds, and in that 4ms outage your PSU should handle that because minimum standard ATX PSU's Hold up time is 16ms or higher.
    Since my UPS is over 6 years old, this is understandable. Can this be easily fixed (at a repair shop)?

    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    @CvP this a 2700 watt unit. r u sure u need such a big UPS? Do remember this UPS will be quite costly to maintain. whenever u need to replace the batt u have to buy 8 SLA batteries. 8x1300= 10400 BDT approx correct me if im wrong @OoAIDoO

    on top of that u need to have new batteries just to test the unit's full functionality. but this is 1 heck of a unit if it still operates like it should.

    If u decide to step on online UPS + long back up then buy a long run online UPS model that has external battery terminal.
    (Long run online UPS doesn't come with batteries though)
    This is excessive. I just need something to cover me when generator is turning on or failed. I'm sure any 2500 taka UPS from market would be enough but I just spent ~6k on a battery a few months ago. Don't want that to go waste.
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Since my UPS is over 6 years old, this is understandable. Can this be easily fixed (at a repair shop)?
    short term answer YES. long term answer NO.

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    As it is running for 6 years it is very much likely that the mechanical relays have gone bad, and each of those relays cost around 30taka, there should be 4 of them.

    In UPS there there is no other mechanical component so don't think anything else has damaged. And if it a relay related problem repairing it will give it atleast 2 years of usable life unless something else go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    As it is running for 6 years it is very much likely that the mechanical relays have gone bad, and each of those relays cost around 30taka, there should be 4 of them.
    Do you (or anyone else) know any electrician who can come home and fix it for me? Moving this big UPS with this battery is very problematic. I'm willing to pay fairly.
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Do you (or anyone else) know any electrician who can come home and fix it for me? Moving this big UPS with this battery is very problematic. I'm willing to pay fairly.
    if u know basic soldering/de-soldering operation, u can do it ur self. Just buy a solder at 150/=

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Do you (or anyone else) know any electrician who can come home and fix it for me? Moving this big UPS with this battery is very problematic. I'm willing to pay fairly.
    sorry don't know anyone like this, you can try doing it urself or just leave the batteries and take it to the repair store.

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    @Swapnil I think the ball is in your court.

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