DOTA Rules !!!

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

There has been a serious argument about backdooring .
i think a lot of people still dont know this rule .
well , i am posting this backdooring fact here so everyone can see this and discuss .
Backdooring:
- Backdooring is partially allowed: only outer towers (so the first and second in each lane) are allowed to be attacked without the help of allied creeps. All inner buildings (the ones found in the base) are not to be attacked, unless your allied creeps enter the base. If a creep enters the base, you may attack ANY building until you and your allies leave the base. Once you all left the base, you may not resume your attack until creeps enter the base again. Summons and dominated creeps don't count as allied creeps.


Did u guys know about this in detail ??
plz share ur views on this rule ...

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

a lot of people in Bangladesh created their own rules for dota .
for like example before when i used to play ( when i used to b a noob )
we couldnt have some combos like ( omni +sand ) ( riki + sand )
we couldnt have access to any towers or buildings without our allied creeps . which was called backdooring and a lot of BD dota rules .
i think those days are over and now Bangladesh is one of the few professional countries who play dota professionally as E-sports .

it dosent mean that a person who is the earliest dota gamer in Bangladesh is the wisest person who knows all the rules about the game .
everyone who ever learns dota , u might learn from someone but learn the rules from the forums .
as if there is problem in rules , then there might serious problems between two teams .
everyone plz visit the dota tournament section , and check the Dota rules thread and see wat are they , i dont think anyone was even interested to read my post from that thread as it was a copy +paste i guess . ( which everyone thinks is no big deal to post something like this )

plz spare some time and go through the rules and if u have any complaints let the BG community know about it .
ThanX

[CvP]

There has been a serious argument about backdooring .
i think a lot of people still dont know this rule .
well , i am posting this backdooring fact here so everyone can see this and discuss .
Backdooring:
- Backdooring is partially allowed: only outer towers (so the first and second in each lane) are allowed to be attacked without the help of allied creeps. All inner buildings (the ones found in the base) are not to be attacked, unless your allied creeps enter the base. If a creep enters the base, you may attack ANY building until you and your allies leave the base. Once you all left the base, you may not resume your attack until creeps enter the base again. Summons and dominated creeps don't count as allied creeps.


Did u guys know about this in detail ??
plz share ur views on this rule ...

this is your rule and I disagree.

I say if backdooring is not allowed, then the following things are in effect:
- no partial backdooring allowed as you mentioned
- ANY deniable tower/rax (current hp less or equal to 10% of max hp) can be attacked in any way the attacker chooses to
- about entering base: it is NOT necessary that you enter WITH the creeps. you CAN go ahead** of the creeps if you choose to OR wait for them to die and enter while the corpse(s) are still there.
- rest are same as you said (except deniable tower/rax)

**this doesn't mean you skip opponent creeps to enter the base; you only skip yours.
in other words, when your creeps are walking towards opponent base, you just rush ahead of them instead of waiting for the creeps.


When backdooring is allowed, all above rules are irrelevant. rules about the situation when BD is allowed are clearly specified in "in-game Map Info"

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

there is no sense of ur disagreeing it is a rule from a tournament .
plz we r not into making our own rules .
the rules are used like this in all the tournaments that are part of garena .
if u disagree there wouldnt b any change in the rules .
and this isnt my rule it was a copy + paste .
as i have said .
CvP all u do is disagree with people qand try to b the smart ¤¤¤ .
well u might b one , but not in dota .
have some respect at ur posts . it will make u gain respect for urself . u r not the only one who knows the rules .
there are more people , who knows rules .
just because u r a mod dosent give u any rights to talk as if u r the dota god !
post something more nicely and with respect and then u might get thanked for the things u did for BG like the software !!
and i m repeating this is no rule that i made .

[CvP]

there is no sense of ur disagreeing it is a rule from a tournament .
plz we r not into making our own rules .
the rules are used like this in all the tournaments that are part of garena .
if u disagree there wouldnt b any change in the rules .
and this isnt my rule it was a copy + paste .
as i have said .
CvP all u do is disagree with people qand try to b the smart .
well u might b one , but not in dota .
have some respect at ur posts . it will make u gain respect for urself . u r not the only one who knows the rules .
there are more people , who knows rules .
just because u r a mod dosent give u any rights to talk as if u r the dota god !
post something more nicely and with respect and then u might get thanked for the things u did for BG like the software !!
and i m repeating this is no rule that i made .

just to be clear...the rules I stated here are the same rules MYM (and others) follow.
to me, the rules you have stated, are violating "we r not into making our own rules".

One more thing: I post in BG as a member, not as a moderator.
but sometimes it is necessary to post as a moderator and those posts can easily be distinguished from my regular posts like this one.

btw, I didn't mean to offend you, you yourself said "share ur views on this rule" and thanks for calling me a smart a$$.

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

well once more it isnt my rules cant u read ?
this is from the ESWC tournament rules !!
and mym wat do u mean by that ?
mym dont make rules they are just a clan !!
if u know that !! we are not concerned abt one of the best clan of the world we are concerned abt the tournament and league rules !
get it !
and u r not hsaring ur views u r trying to prove u r intelligent and the rest are all dumb !!

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

Well i just found the right thing about this .
the backdooring rules actually vary from different tournaments and leagues .
but i got a lot of tournaments with the rules that i have provided ( it is not my rule CvP )
but i also have see other tournament rules with a different rule for backdoring .
now i think it is upto the BG admins or the tournament admins like PD .
or Sin Eater to see the rules and check things out . and have a replay as soon as possible as we have a situation i guess !
Once more CvP i am telling u this isnt my rules !
when i am going to organize a tournament then mayb i ll make my own rules !
but ithink i was trying to help BG , if u r really so concerned about the rules and since u r a mod of BG its ur responsibility to post a dota tournament rule or discuss it with the league organizers which u dint do .
Instead u poke ur nose and say making me guilty of making my own dota tournament rules isnt slightly enjoyable . so plz BGDL organizers please see to it .
and mayb my rules arent accurate , i was just trying to help , if it is wrong u can always delte and post the new ones .
it wont hurt me , atleast not like one by getting the accusation of making my own rules which CvP did .

CvP u ll never get praised dude ! and personally i dint say this but ur software sucks .
it isnt necessary it might b a masterpiece but it is awfull as u have to do a lot of work .
dload this dload that . i wouldnt have said this coz u really worked hard for ur software and even i did spare my time to post a rule and i got humiliated by u .
thanx CvP u r gr8 !!

[CvP]

you are disgusting.

and about my software, it is people like you who made me regret for the first time for working on a software.

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

u are even more dude !!
see urself u might notice this !!
it was u with the awful post

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

You can atttack any buildings outside of base at any time! You just need to enter the enemy base (The elevated portio) with creeps, and you can keep on attacking even when the creeps are dead! Simple as that!

Also, teleport abusing is not allowed! You cannot send a Ignus Fatus or Furion's treants and TP on them and start hitting raxes, without creeps present! That's the rule we are following in the league!

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The software was awesome, CvP, don't worry about it! It is not easy to manage a league fixture without such a software! Also people must learn to understand that this software was made for all future from this point onwards, meaning we can make the fixture for all leagues and tournaments using the software! Also, another thing is that it is all random, so nobody can complain about anything regarding the fixture!

[kabir_sharif2000]

Everyone knows those rules. PD posted those months ago in dota bangladesh. So no need to make such a mega film.

CvP's software is great. The least it takes is creativity and knowledge. It was not any "COPY-PASTE" drama.

[Walking Death]

First of all forget about rules even if world's largest organization set some for back dooring. They are not playing here and they are not coming here , We are playing and its upon us to select the rules by our Tournament organizer[for god's sake the things has been done ] so don't argue about this anymore.You guys won't find solution and there is no organization [like in football FIFA] too set the rules for all.


@CvP And about the software CvP you did a great job a salute to you for doing such an awesome thing.


@Sneaky if you don't like the software then create a software.
Ja parben na ta niey kotha na bolaio vhalo noy ki ?[no hard feelings]


To create a software one need at least hours of ¤¤¤¤ing hard work[A software developer can charge us money] because creating a software is not just a drinking water thing.Which CvP did for free and instead of thanking him you are making him angry. Shame on you shame

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

Well !!
i think pyro i never made my own rules if that dumb ¤¤¤ cvp would have understood .
always mentioning that i cr8ed these rules , i said that it was a copy + paste .
and still he is repeating the same ¤¤¤¤ on and on .
all he can do is that these rules are not ok and shud b changed instead of saying snakey ur rules , i dont agree with em . well if it wasnt needed when i posted it u shud have said that it is not right intead of crying and saying that it is my rules and it is wrong .
l8r that day i searched for dota tournament rules and checked out a couple of pages and found that there are different rules only for the backdooring issue , we can simply follow 1 ( not necessarily the one i posted )
i just posted it as there were no rules posted and there is cvp telling me UR rules is not agreeable .
WTF ?? it was just a stupid rule if , it isnt right u can always change .
but dont say that the rule I made is wrong as i never really cr8ed any rule .
mayb someday when i ll b pro like cvp and walking death in dota i ll cr8 one .
its seems like that walking death u r the only 1 playing the league .
havent seen ur face in any game though .4get it just by posting dosent make u a part of the league does it ? u r like the most knowledgeable person in the league like sensaifar or king of kings . Walking death u r a gr8 UT player stay in ur limits dont try to prove something gr8 out of urselfin dota plz .

@ Cvp if u would have posted a reply like pyro mayb all this ¤¤¤¤ wouldnt have been cr8ed . if u would have a posted a wise post i would have never said anything .
u r a well respected person in the forum . so plz dont loose it , u can see people getting mad at me becoz of my stupid post against u . u can see how many people wants u in the forum where no one needs me .

i dint have anything against u cvp , its just that , people who dont even play dota professionally here in BD . act like he is a dota god for example u can say sensaifar , walking death , cryminal and king of kings these people just need to think that they r the best .

wat ever CVP i am sry if i offended u , i dont think i meant to offend u , its just that i go a bit mad .
and once more it is not my rule .
it is a stupid copy+paste which isnt better than ur software at all .
atleast now u can see all the people who appreciate ur software ....

[kabir_sharif2000]

its just that , people who dont even play dota professionally here in BD . act like he is a dota god for example u can say sensaifar , walking death , cryminal and king of kings these people just need to think that they r the best .

Dude, whats in to you? You are a great player, but you suck in posting. Stop offending more and more ppl.

[Noob™]

@§n4K3y you did a lot of hard work (or manipulation!) for getting all those thanks. well you wont have to do that much to gather all the groans if you keep on flaming CvP and insulting other members.

[Walking Death]

The whole thing has misunderstood.

i said forget about the rule the rules have been selected and we don't have to shitting ourself for these rules let organizer argue for this.As i posted earlier there are no Supreme organization in DOTA around the world to set a rule for all some follow MYM rule some follow ESWC rule and even more.So let's not bargain upon what has been fixed our discussion will not change them

and i am not great infact a noob. but what you said to CvP that he did a bad job by creating software which is not so good is what will made everyone angry.Because you are not paying enough respect for his work.

and i am not in Dhaka that's why i am unable to participate in DOTA leagur you just hurt my feelings man.

[SP.Sn4k3y-]

LOl
its like u guys only get hurt or something u guys are the only respected people maalibaag people shud only b respected no one else shud right ?
Well i m sry if i hurt ur feelings walking death but also for once u guys also think wat u guys say , whom u r saying to ..
i am not just a stupid gamer that u can say anything u know .
so plz !!
u guys are really gr8 people and u guys are only human who cares abt others .
my posts are useless right ?
i cr8 rules of my own , i mean this isnt fair right ?
so , i think i shall f**k of from this forum !!
thanx for the respect , u dont have to ban me salman bhai , i can leave myself , i wouldnt like to post in a forum which ha no respect to me .

[kabir_sharif2000]

Oh man, calm down.
Those were not your rules. Why are you getting offended?

[Zeus4mSniper]

WTF.whats all this fuss is about???some rulezs.its betweeen two team,dont bring this in the forum u gys.u should make me ur idle(always COOL).and forget all about rules.rules r made to b broken.This is a Familly 1st forum 2nd to me and hope its same to all of U pplz.

[CvP]

you know Sn4k3y, it is you who is dragging this thing.
i didn't mean to offend you.

.....
btw, I didn't mean to offend you....

and I clearly said that in my second post. even though you insulted me, i overlooked it.

but you just kept on flaming/insulting me. then other members too. and now you earned an infraction because of that.

and you were the one who said

...have some respect at ur posts . it will make u gain respect for urself.....

pathetic.