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    Default AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Just saw this on xbitlabs...

    The next-generation desktop central processing units (CPUs) from Advanced Micro Devices with Bulldozer micro-architecture are projected to offer around 50% higher performance compared to existing chips from AMD and Intel. While the promises seem very promising, they should be considered as extremely rough estimates.

    An AMD document obtained by Donanimhaber web-site claims that an eight-core Bulldozer microprocessor offers 50% higher performance compared to quad-core Intel Core i7-950 with HT microprocessor in games, rendering and multimedia applications. The web-sites does not specify which benchmarks were used. In fact, 50% higher performance versus a quad-core chip does not seem to be bad, especially in games that do not usually take advantage of multi-core chips.

    The web-site claims that AMD compares performance of the Core i7-950 with performance of AMD Phenom II X6 1100T chip, which is considerably slower than its rival, according to performance tests conducted by X-bit labs. It is unclear whether AMD showed the model 1100T being slower or faster than the i7-950. Test settings were not revealed. Typically, AMD publishes so-called "simulated benchmark results".

    Rumours published earlier this month suggested that AMD plans to return the FX products family with extreme performance. Indirectly, this information confirms very high performance of new microprocessors from AMD.

    Engineering samples of code-named Zambezi (desktop Bulldozer) chips became available for AMD's partners for testing in December, 2010. Production candidates should be ready by February '11 and the initial production of the company's first desktop microprocessors powered by the long-awaited Bulldozer micro-architecture is scheduled to start in April next year. Probably, the launch of the chip will occur around the same timeframe.

    Eight-core Zambezi features four dual-core Bulldozer modules, each of which is believed to have 2MB of shared level-two cache, that will share 8MB L3 cache. In total, the whole chip will pack in whopping 16MB of SRAM, a 77% increase from the current six-core microprocessors that have 9MB of cache in total. Clock-speeds of the chip may be as high as 3.50GHz or even higher.

    The first Zambezi microprocessors to be launched are expected to be eight-core products with 95W and 125W thermal design power as well as 8MB L3 cache. Later in the second quarter of 2011 AMD, according to sources with knowledge of the company's roadmap, will release six-core chips with 8MB L3 cache and four-core products with 4MB cache. All of the processors will feature TurboCore 2.0 technology, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller with up to 1866MHz memory support and will be compatible with AM3+ mainboards.

    AMD did not comment on the news-story.
    Now if the story is true...than Bulldozer will be equally powerful to a SNB..

    but take this story with a pinch of salt....as bulldozer launch is around 6 months off....and a lot of things and rumors will surface...
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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Its 4 months off i guess and yea without actual numbers cant trust this.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Well aren't the current i7 processors already old? 50% sounds like a plausible figure.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    I have doubt if bulldozer can out perform sandybridge in gaming.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Sandy Bridge-Ex processors will beat the Bulldozer

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Guys you have to remember...these are rumored figures....sometimes they come true...

    some times they dont...

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quote Originally Posted by avas911 View Post
    Guys you have to remember...these are rumored figures....sometimes they come true...

    some times they dont...
    agreed

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    the people believing in this story are plainly stupid.


    Bottom line,AMD Didn't comment.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    ummm...so? Sony doesn't comment on rumors yet they are true almost ALL the time, no company comments on rumors unless they're something very serious. If it said something like 300% then yes that would be stupid but 50% is a possible figure.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    ummm...so? Sony doesn't comment on rumors yet they are true almost ALL the time, no company comments on rumors unless they're something very serious. If it said something like 300% then yes that would be stupid but 50% is a possible figure.
    LOL,there was a rumour that PSP II will have the same graphics of PS3.Do you think that's even possible?
    and,lets see,i can't really tell what's gonna happen.i agree with you on the last sentence.
    Last edited by Scott Pilgrim; January 17th, 2011 at 18:50.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    So dont call people stupid....

    and not the psp phpne...psp2 will be powerful like a ps3..that is the rumor...

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quote Originally Posted by avas911 View Post
    So dont call people stupid....

    and not the psp phpne...psp2 will be powerful like a ps3..that is the rumor...
    Don't tell me you believed it can exceed the sandy bridge by 300%? LOL

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim View Post
    LOL,there was a rumour that PSP II will have the same graphics of PS3.Do you think that's even possible?
    and,lets see,i can't really tell what's gonna happen.i agree with you on the last sentence.
    Yes. Choto screen e to PS3-like graphics hoitei pare, but boro screen e lagailei image distort hoye jabe. There is more room to hide details and put more emphasis on certain areas on small screens.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim View Post
    the people believing in this story are plainly stupid.


    Bottom line,AMD Didn't comment.
    Whats your point? When has AMD commented on rumours anyway? Especially 6 months before launch?

    About Zambezi, it is a completely new way of designing a processor, unlike anything created ever before. The front end of a processor is being shared, there are two integer pipelines and hence with around 20% more die space a whole extra core is being provided, provided 128bit FPU instructions are being fed to the cores. 256bit ones will receive a performance hit, but not much. Still, a 4 module (~8 core) Zambezi will be a threaded monster, lets hope software can keep up with the cores

    50% higher performance in well threaded applications is completely believable. They mention current i7 processors as Nehalem, thats the last generation. A 4 module (8 core) Bulldozer being 50%, say in Cinebench, is entirely possible since it has 4 extra cores at its disposal. Whats not to believe?

    As usual though, take rumours with a grain of salt

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Quite true Mazhar. The bulldozer is the most innovative hybrid Processor ever designed i guess XD.

    It will be interesting to see how well it performs in different applications. The numbers should be unpredictable.

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    fingers crossed for bulldozer...

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.


    Giddy can be traced back to the same Germanic root *gud– that has given us the word God

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    Read the fine print benchmarks are from Cinebench and 3d Mark 2006!! They are showing Core i7 950 but saying the package is 1156...

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    That slide is a fake

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    Default Re: AMD's Bulldozer Microprocessors Expected to Offer 50% Higher Performance than Core i7, Phenom II Chips.

    At some point,AMD's been fighting to win over most of the Glory ever since Athlon.
    Who knows they might turns things around!

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