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    Smile Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Check this link
    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=11

    It is written just over the pictures of AMD Phenom-II processors,

    "the Phenom-II X6-1090T is the hands-down winner on all fronts, as it beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures while also offering an unmatched price-performance ratio over the expensive i7-980X."

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by pcgamer View Post
    "the Phenom-II X6-1090T is the hands-down winner on all fronts, as it beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures while also offering an unmatched price-performance ratio over the expensive i7-980X."
    You compared it performance with i7-920 and price-performance ratio with i7-980X :huh:
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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by tanveer View Post
    You compared it performance with i7-920 and price-performance ratio with i7-980X :huh:
    No, it beats i7 920 with performance (even beats with price, check the latest price of both) and then betas i7-980X price-performance ratio. Core i7-980X is the best one in term of performance.

    See the whole review.

    ---------- Post added at 01:45 ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by tanveer View Post
    You compared it performance with i7-920 and price-performance ratio with i7-980X :huh:
    See my other post to find out what happen in when Games benefit from six cores CPUs and the hyperthreading performance gain is so little with i7.

    http://banglagamer.com/forums/showth...573#post243573

    (careful, you will see most gain comes from turbo boost not from HT)

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by pcgamer View Post
    No, it beats i7 920 with performance (even beats with price, check the latest price of both) and then betas i7-980X price-performance ratio. Core i7-980X is the best one in term of performance.

    See the whole review.

    ---------- Post added at 01:45 ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 ----------



    See my other post to find out what happen in when Games benefit from six cores CPUs and the hyperthreading performance gain is so little with i7.

    http://banglagamer.com/forums/showth...573#post243573

    (careful, you will see most gain comes from turbo boost not from HT)
    Now I've got it..
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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by pcgamer View Post
    No, it beats i7 920 with performance (even beats with price, check the latest price of both) and then betas i7-980X price-performance ratio. Core i7-980X is the best one in term of performance.

    See the whole review.

    ---------- Post added at 01:45 ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 ----------



    See my other post to find out what happen in when Games benefit from six cores CPUs and the hyperthreading performance gain is so little with i7.

    http://banglagamer.com/forums/showth...573#post243573

    (careful, you will see most gain comes from turbo boost not from HT)
    hyper threading will benifit, if more than 4 programming instruction is going to run, nd cpu is not used 100%,in a quad core processor.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    hyper threading will benifit, if more than 4 programming instruction is going to run, nd cpu is not used 100%,in a quad core processor.
    Of course it will benefit but not like physical core. Even more than 4 programming instruction run, still not. See this link and clear your conception.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...-cpu-review/10

    Highest you can get 13 percent quicker in Cinebench. (written in that review)
    Last edited by pcgamer; December 18th, 2010 at 10:52.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    ^^it said ,it take advantage on simple multitusking,video encoding nd some other tasks without significant power consumption increase...doesn't this make ht worthy..
    Nd, d site supports my previous post.
    Ekhon kar game gular result dekhanor mane ki?egula multi core ei vhalo chole na, abar HT..HEH...

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    ^^it said ,it take advantage on simple multitusking,video encoding nd some other tasks without significant power consumption increase...doesn't this make ht worthy..
    Nd, d site supports my previous post.
    Ekhon kar game gular result dekhanor mane ki?egula multi core ei vhalo chole na, abar HT..HEH...
    I am also saying that HT is beneficial but most people think that its performance is like physical core! And If it is like physical core than Phenom II X6-1090T could never beat any i7.

    Game gula jokhon multi core utilize korbay tokhon HT will blown out of water! Because HT core is sharing the cache of a physical core.

    ---------- Post added at 10:35 ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 ----------

    Ekhon kar game gular jodi multi core support e na koray taholay how could 17 Games already get benefit from six cores CPU?

    And WPrime v2.00 can support all the physical and HT core. Still why cant you see significant performance increase????

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    ^if u say 17 games r all only games of today,then it is insane like talking.
    They used crysis...nd i m not so sure, their gpu is bottlenecking it or not.
    13% isn't a substantial increase for ht?
    Nd, who d hell think ht like physical core?don't talk about fantasized noobs.

    ---------- Post added at 10:57 ---------- Previous post was at 10:51 ----------

    Ar, 920 er clock speed koto?ar 1090t er koto?tader core e ba koita?! Still 1090t is of that 920 catagory?!omg, it is only for intel's good chip config,turbo boost,nd HT...i assume, amd has also turbo boost like thing in 1090t(more improved-correct me if i m wrng)....so, what make intel i family so bright in performance?

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    ^if u say 17 games r all only games of today,then it is insane like talking.
    They used crysis...nd i m not so sure, their gpu is bottlenecking it or not.
    13% isn't a substantial increase for ht?
    Nd, who d hell think ht like physical core?don't talk about fantasized noobs.
    Ya now I understand that you are in my side! Hahaha. 13% is a substantial increase for HT (in case of i7) but that never beats Phenom II X6.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    HT uses the same processor core for 2 logical cores...they just have 2 sets of regsters...so virtually they show 2 cores...but they execute one core at a time...so although they become faster because of that....2 logical cores can never beat 2 physical cores.....
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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mohiuddin View Post
    ^Ar, 920 er clock speed koto?ar 1090t er koto?tader core e ba koita?! Still 1090t is of that 920 catagory?!omg, it is only for intel's good chip config,turbo boost,nd HT...i assume, amd has also turbo boost like thing in 1090t(more improved-correct me if i m wrng)....so, what make intel i family so bright in performance?
    X6 1090t is more that i7 920. Bright in performance because we all (including benchmark) supports intel processor. Still at stock speed 1090t get 7.5 in windows experience index but i7 920 needs to overclock for that.
    Last edited by pcgamer; December 18th, 2010 at 12:09.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by pcgamer View Post
    Ya now I understand that you are in my side! Hahaha. 13% is a substantial increase for HT (in case of i7) but that never beats Phenom II X6.
    then, what making intel uncomparable to amd?think of comparing an i7 98x or 99x having 6core 3.0 ghz having massive heat pipe solution (amd using those) with a 1100t(>3.2ghz)....yea, superior chip quality, extra sse instruction for encryption...but ht is also a factor for that superiority.. Don't know abt buldozar .

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    I have already agreed with that ht factor!

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Lets just forget about Core i7 and concentrate on Core i5 750. Since this is a gaming forum i am posting only Gaming reviews.

    This is from Anandtech. Now in BD Core i5 760 costs around 16,500 Tk. Core i7 870 costs around 23,000 tk. Both of them are from the affordable LGA-1156 socket.

    now this benchmark is for Core i5 750 which slower in clock speed compared to Core i5 760. And AMD Phenom II X6 1090T costs 21,000. So i will leave the judgment to the readers.
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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Bhai gaming e to AMD ektu kharap thik ase...kintu onno dik dia...future proofing multi taskin etc. te AMD boss....

    And later next year every game will take in to account more cores than 2...than AMD is gonna be king...

    Also at 21000 you are getting a black edition processor...this is a OC beast....and awesome at it....

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by CHR.M4NTIS View Post
    Lets just forget about Core i7 and concentrate on Core i5 750. Since this is a gaming forum i am posting only Gaming reviews.

    This is from Anandtech. Now in BD Core i5 760 costs around 16,500 Tk. Core i7 870 costs around 23,000 tk. Both of them are from the affordable LGA-1156 socket.

    now this benchmark is for Core i5 750 which slower in clock speed compared to Core i5 760. And AMD Phenom II X6 1090T costs 21,000. So i will leave the judgment to the readers.
    Ha ha, Older games will not see any benefit from 6 core. See the modern warfighter 2 Benchmark Results and 3d Max 64 bit :
    This are from Tom's Hardware. I will also leave the judgment to the readers.

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    Did you just see that Phenom II X6-1090T beats i7 920?
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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Did u say modern warfighter!?lol.
    Nd tomshardware isn't a trusted site. There's been a lot of talk about it in BG.in 1 of their benchmarks they even showed that the 5970 was slower than 5870 when fitted with a amd hexacore.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Tom's used to be good. Despite being the 'biggest' hardware website in the world(Self claimed), they're notorious for writing paid reviews, so meh.

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    Default Re: Phenom II X6-1090T beats the i7-920 in nearly all performance measures!

    Quote Originally Posted by avas911 View Post
    HT uses the same processor core for 2 logical cores...they just have 2 sets of regsters...so virtually they show 2 cores...but they execute one core at a time...so although they become faster because of that....2 logical cores can never beat 2 physical cores.....
    Exactly. Most people dont grasp the idea of HT at all. It basically tries to extract data from one source, puts it in the extra registers and tries to process it in parallel. Multithreaded apps have nothing to do with it, it can also extract data from a single thread because from every single application, there is a lot of wasteful IPC that can be extracted due to the application simply not using the processor fully. In fact, the better programmed the app is, the lesser the performance advantage of HT (since the data already extracts all the IPC available in the core)

    P4 with its long pipeline had performance decreases from HT. Reason? One if them is that even if it extracted data from one source, put it in the register and processed it, it still had to travel through the long (31 stages IIRC) pipeline. If one set of data went before the other, it had to wait for the other one for a loong time. Not anymore with the i series and ~15 stage pipeline.

    Bottom line is, HT in its current form can give performance advantages of around 5 - 15%. Wayy below the theoretical advantage of one separate core, though thats a lot bigger. About the thread title, choose i7 920 for gaming and general apps using <4 cores. Only for heavily multithreaded apps and other apps using >4 cores (Rendering etc) should you opt for a 1090T. Overclocking a 1090T is a hell lot of fun though
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