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    Binamulley Internet Shebar saathey jukto hochhey Bangladesh ei Robibar thekey


    http://www.arthosuchak.com/archives/...7%8D%E0%A6%B0/

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    Bangladesh e net neutrality kono issue na... BG te amar moto kisu public net neutrality niye kotha bolbe hoyto but BD er onno keu egula bujhe na. jodio as far i know india teo net neutrality niye kotha uthse....

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    Using facebook > Not using facebook at all. Ekhon amader rickshawala mamader o facebook e dekha jabe xD . Facebook e jigamu "Mama jaben?" xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    Bangladesh e net neutrality kono issue na... BG te amar moto kisu public net neutrality niye kotha bolbe hoyto but BD er onno keu egula bujhe na. jodio as far i know india teo net neutrality niye kotha uthse....
    all hail lord of all knowledge! :3

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    pura news pori nai but free internet er sathe net neutrality er ki holo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REVx View Post
    Binamulley Internet Shebar saathey jukto hochhey Bangladesh ei Robibar thekey


    http://www.arthosuchak.com/archives/...7%8D%E0%A6%B0/
    apni ki notun series banaitesen naki, "protikriya byakto korun"?

    now all we need is decent gov sites and services. jodio beshirvag manush free FB use koratei atkay thakbe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman View Post
    Using facebook > Not using facebook at all. Ekhon amader rickshawala mamader o facebook e dekha jabe xD . Facebook e jigamu "Mama jaben?" xD
    and they still gonna say no. or just ignore the post altogether.

    btw, your avatar is making me crazy. I constantly try squishing the bug and end up in your profile. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by MusharratC View Post
    apni ki notun series banaitesen naki, "protikriya byakto korun"?
    Ji bhai, thik dhorechhen.
    U know, like SHAMI keno AASHAMI, SHANTO Keno MASTAAN, AMI keno TUMI - inspiration hit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    pura news pori nai but free internet er sathe net neutrality er ki holo?
    You have to realize that this so called "free internet" is facebook's way of ensuring that a competitor can not provide better service and replace them.
    And to do that, they are holding all ISPs at gun point. They say they are doing this to empower people. Free access to Wikipedia, government/NGO websites and sites of that nature can be called empowering people. Facebook is not; it is a for-profit multinational business.

    you can read some comments here:
    http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...l=1#post684084


    Also, the way they are doing this, 100% breaks HTTPS. So forget privacy, forget security and expect everyone & their dogs to know your passwords used on this and exactly what are you doing, where are you going with this free internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    You have to realize that this so called "free internet" is facebook's way of ensuring that a competitor can not provide better service and replace them.
    And to do that, they are holding all ISPs at gun point. They say they are doing this to empower people. Free access to Wikipedia, government/NGO websites and sites of that nature can be called empowering people. Facebook is not; it is a for-profit multinational business.

    you can read some comments here:
    http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...l=1#post684084


    Also, the way they are doing this, 100% breaks HTTPS. So forget privacy, forget security and expect everyone & their dogs to know your passwords used on this and exactly what are you doing, where are you going with this free internet.
    owww that 0.facebook 中中? never used that, and tried not to use free wiki but GP wont allow me to do that :\

    well so other ISP's gonna do the same?
    seriously? free access to non-profit sites are acceptable but facebook or other sites nupe big nupe.

    today after seeing this post i was thinking well we dont even have that much of an internet based service so wasnt even worried about net neutrality coz no one sales anything so no one can force isp to make thr traffic cost less but well we might have a problem here. :\

    and we dont even have that much speed to use VPN :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Also, the way they are doing this, 100% breaks HTTPS. So forget privacy, forget security and expect everyone & their dogs to know your passwords used on this and exactly what are you doing, where are you going with this free internet.
    wait... did i miss something... where did you get that boss

    if thats true 中中 this 中中 i am out

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    well so other ISP's gonna do the same?
    Imagine this...if one carrier gives free talktime for WHOLE night, what can the other carriers do to retain their customers? No need to imagine though; we all know how DJUICE incident went.

    As long as facebook manages to convince ONE ISP, all others are forced to agree regardless of their stance about this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    wait... did i miss something... where did you get that boss

    if thats true 中中 this 中中 i am out
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    well djuice call pura free didn't go that well, they stopped that after couple of months and at that time only one other player was on the field. I got my phone damaged back then, that whole thing was just too much for it.

    anyway is it fb or the isp that is giving free access? I thought seeing huge fb craze carriers make it free so that people atleast buy small packages thus eventually sell moderate amount of MB for huge amount of taka. I have never thought fb/wiki has come to GP asking for it.

    and about free internet i thought gov is trying to provide free internet to people :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    well djuice call pura free didn't go that well, they stopped that after couple of months and at that time only one other player was on the field. I got my phone damaged back then, that whole thing was just too much for it.

    anyway is it fb or the isp that is giving free access? I thought seeing huge fb craze carriers make it free so that people atleast buy small packages thus eventually sell moderate amount of MB for huge amount of taka. I have never thought fb/wiki has come to GP asking for it.

    and about free internet i thought gov is trying to provide free internet to people :S
    It wasn't just djuice. Aktel (and may be others) had similar things at some point. Don't remember exact details though.

    Internet.org (fancy name for a facebook controlled entity) is pursuing ISPs effectively creating a worse scenario than paid-fast-lane scenario of recent US-net-neutrality issues.
    http://fortune.com/2015/05/04/facebo...-internet-org/


    Imagine two new online startup companies in BD who are competing for same space. One of them gets denied by one or more of the following:
    facebook, GP, banglalink, robi

    while the other one gets thru.

    Can you even imagine how this will affect their competition? The one which managed to secure free internet will have huge advantage everywhere if not win out right.

    All for what? To secure facebook's position.
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    https://openmedia.ca/blog/how-facebo...users-real-web

    Today, OpenMedia has launched a new campaign to stand with Internet users around the world whooppose plans by Facebook to control what billionssee, read, and hear online. For years, we’ve worked with our community and Internet freedom groups around the world to ensure that people everywhere have access to the real Internet – the free and open web. This is why we are taking a stand with Internet users in places like India and Latin America who oppose Facebook’s blocking scheme, and we are asking Internet users around the world to stand with them.While we support the goal of bringing affordable Internet access to the next 3 billion people who currently lack access, Internet users and OpenMedia community members have told us they have deep concerns about Facebook’s controversial Internet.org platform. Experts and advocates agree that this closed platform threatens innovation,free expression, and privacy online – and fundamentally violates the principles of net neutrality.
    For example, grassroots advocates and civil society organizations in Brazil have raised a number of red flags in an open letter to the Brazilian government, opposing the platform. They warn,
    "...we believe that this project, promoted by Facebook in several countries in Latin America, Africa and Asia, could jeopardize the future of the information society, the economy in the digital environment and the rights of users in the network, such as privacy, freedom of expression and net neutrality."
    They rightly recognize that, instead of providing access to the real Internet, Internet.org is only providing access to a fake, blocked, and restricted Internet. In fact, this service is so controversial that major websites have even pulled out of the platform. But that hasn’t stopped the so-called charity from marketing their service as full-fledged Internet access and confusing Internet usersaround the world. However, as we’ll see below, their idea of the Internet is quite far from the truth.
    So, how is Facebook “blocking” Internet users?

    For many first-time Internet users Facebook could become the gatekeeper of the Internet.
    Here’s how it works: to offer the Internet.org service in a given country, a deal is made between Facebook and a telecom provider. The provider then offers the service to customers, and blocks access to any websites other than Facebook and a small group of other sites hand-picked by Facebook’s Internet.org team. Facebook then heavily promotes the service within the region, in the hopes of attracting Internet users with limited means to their free, but heavily restricted service.
    Now, the services Facebook chooses are the only ones the user is able to access – with all our favourite (and competing) video, comedy, and news sites blocked. So when some of the poorestpeople in the world get access to Internet.org, they’re made to believe they’re on the real Internet, while in reality they’re only on Facebook’s fake Internet comprised of a few hand-picked sites. What’s worse, Facebook is using its enormous power and weight to make this service the de facto Internet service in many countries around the world.
    Facebook’s goal? Control. They want to make Facebook the platform everywhere, and want to make sure we can’t leave it. Imagine it as a Facebook layer of the Internet that we all use. Sure, on the surface it might look like the open Internet, but in reality it’s a shallow replacement that is controlled, proprietary, and far from the Internet that users around the world deserve.
    Does this seem fair, to you?
    Internet.org is not the Internet. Not even close.

    One of our friends at Access, Josh Levy, published an excellent piece in Wired about Facebook’s controversial platform. And they took care to nicely summarize the message in the article’s title:Facebook’s Internet.org Isn’t the Internet, It’s Facebooknet. While we recommend reading the whole article, the conclusion is well worth highlighting here:
    We’re now at a turning point. The next three billion people to go online could enjoy the same empowering, non-discriminatory access to knowledge and tools for expression as the first three billion. Or they could get a second-class experience, limited to internet-connected services and applications in a walled garden built by big tech and telecom companies—with the open internet just beyond their reach.
    Now it’s up to Internet users everywhere to stand together, and make a loud global call for fair, open access to the real Internet. Decision-makers in countries like India are about to make a decision that could impact Internet users everywhere. So we need to take a stand before it’s too late, to help people fighting on the front-lines of this. And if we speak out now, we can pressure more companies and Internet users to do the same soon.
    We hope you’ll join us, and the people working tirelessly around the world to oppose Facebook’s blocking scheme.


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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    Bangladesh e net neutrality kono issue na... BG te amar moto kisu public net neutrality niye kotha bolbe hoyto but BD er onno keu egula bujhe na. jodio as far i know india teo net neutrality niye kotha uthse....
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    Bangladesh e net neutrality kono issue na... BG te amar moto kisu public net neutrality niye kotha bolbe hoyto but BD er onno keu egula bujhe na. jodio as far i know india teo net neutrality niye kotha uthse....
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    agreed
    This doesn't change the fact how tremendously this will affect businesses and consumers in our country. We are basically handing out our Internet to the whims of facebook and some Telco operators. And Internet is where all business is/will happen in near future.

    Do you know what happens when you hand over your business channels to private companies like this? East India Company happens (in metaphoric meaning).
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
    Please do not PM me for support. You will NOT get a reply. Post in the relevant forum section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    This doesn't change the fact how tremendously this will affect businesses and consumers in our country. We are basically handing out our Internet to the whims of facebook and some Telco operators. And Internet is where all business is/will happen in near future.

    Do you know what happens when you hand over your business channels to private companies like this? East India Company happens (in metaphoric meaning).
    calm down boss, i dont believe that if you cant change something you shouldnt even speak, i just saying BD people are dumb/ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Imagine two new online startup companies in BD who are competing for same space. One of them gets denied by one or more of the following:
    facebook, GP, banglalink, robi

    while the other one gets thru.

    Can you even imagine how this will affect their competition? The one which managed to secure free internet will have huge advantage everywhere if not win out right.
    All for what? To secure facebook's position.
    didnt you forget about another thing? i mean furiousBook or CVPbook? because if i make a social network site people wont be able to browse my site free. where people will able to browse facebook free. that's unfair and that hurts net neutrality

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    off topic-
    facebook might consider making a Bangladeshi gaming forum which people can browse free. this is how they can quickly get much popularity and be a competitor of BG
    just saying

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    and only tech enthusiast people in BG are talking about this where the rest of bongodesh is busy on facebooking

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    so if net neutrality goes away next month, how it will directly impact BD? I am not talking about the economic influence of usa corporations, I am talking about b/w, isps is BD (should I say IIG) pay AtnT and other american isp for accessing internet, so is there any chance for price increase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    so if net neutrality goes away next month, how it will directly impact BD? I am not talking about the economic influence of usa corporations, I am talking about b/w, isps is BD (should I say IIG) pay AtnT and other american isp for accessing internet, so is there any chance for price increase?
    Nah, we are already affected.

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