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    Default Paid mods :@

    in case you don't know valve now sells paid mods in steam and takes 75% of the sales.

    in protest of the new system... change.org petition gained 35000 petition supporters in 1 day.

    petition link http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-allows-...ions-on-steam/



    Petition against paid mods on Steam draws 34,000 signatures in a day
    http://www.pcgamer.com/petition-agai...ures-in-a-day/

    It's fair to say that not everyone is happy with yesterday's launch of paid mods on Steam. And so, as is the way of things, there's now a petition demanding that Valve "remove the paid content of the Steam Workshop" on Change.org—and it's attracted more than 34,000 signatures in less than 24 hours.
    "The workshop is a place for people to share content with each other they made so all can enjoy it for free," the petition states. "Mods should be a free creation. Creations made by people who wish to add to the game so others can also enjoy said creation with the game. We need to unite and reject this act by Valve. Unite have Valve remove the paid content of the Workshop."
    Internet petitions follow internet anger like night follows day, but as Tyler talked about yesterday, some of the concerns about paid mods are perfectly legitimate and understandable. Even so, I'm a little surprised by the intensity of the backlash. The Steam forums are alight with conversation, and of course the news that one paid mod has already been removed because it contained content from another, free mod has only added fuel to the fire.
    Of course, Valve is under no obligation to respond to this petition, and so far today there are far more people actually playing Skyrim—48,000—than have called on Valve to end paid Skyrim mods. But the number of signatories is climbing, and eventually, if the growth continues, it's going to get awfully hard to ignore.

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    Valve is just abusing their market position. Taking 75% of something they did zero work for. ROFL.
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    I keep hoping that it's a typo and they wanted to give 75% and take 25% lol.

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    Here's TotalBiscuit's take on the situation for anyone who just got the news, and doesn't understand why this is such a big deal.

    Been following Reddit et al. for the last 24 Hrs, and most people's gripe is the fact that mod devs get only 25%. I dont have a link right now, but its actually, 30% to Valve, 45% to the original developers of the game, and the remaining 25% of the sale goes to the modder.
    Also in order to actually get any money, the item made needs to make at least $100 is profit before the modder gets anything at all.

    Another issue is the compatibility of mods with one another. Steam will give you refund for only within 24hrs. After that if you find a mod not working with any
    of your previous paid mods, then you are out of luck.

    There has already been reports of stealing other peoples work from Nexus mod website and putting it up on Steam for easy pickems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Valve is just abusing their market position. Taking 75% of something they did zero work for. ROFL.
    And's this was TB's main point of conflict regarding the whole situation.


    Which is actually a really scary situation given how dominant they are in distribution of games and community workshop thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NahyaN View Post
    its actually, 30% to Valve, 45% to the original developers of the game, and the remaining 25% of the sale goes to the modder.
    lol. So Vovlo just wants to turn all "mods" to DLC and get its "middleman fee."
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    "Valve - The company that figured out that its just more profitable selling/abusing/exploiting other people's games than making their own".
    -TF2 Honest Trailer Narrator guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NltVN-_dzSA

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    -_- Die lord gabe, die!

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    Time to start pirating those mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawon0418 View Post
    Time to start pirating those mods
    :v :v :v

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    First Nintendo's YouTube Program claiming copyrights on every YouTubers videos and now this. Some man wanted the world to burn? Now am one of them, [email protected]#%ing corporate stooges monetizing everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by NahyaN View Post
    "Valve - The company that figured out that its just more profitable selling/abusing/exploiting other people's games than making their own".
    -TF2 Honest Trailer Narrator guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NltVN-_dzSA
    Also, don't forget the roots of valve: CS, Dota etc...all were free mods.
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    It's going down. Valve CEO Gabe Newell trying to do damage control.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comm...ods_and_steam/

    Reading through, it doesn't seem to be much of an AMA, though it was stated to be one by Gabe.

    Oh, this funny.

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    Valve is now back-paddling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Valve is now back-paddling?
    If you're talking about if they will stop taking money for mods, they haven't even said anything like that.
    But the general consensus is that this entire AMA was just a PR stunt gone bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Also, don't forget the roots of valve: CS, Dota etc...all were free mods.
    ya... you are right... but i dont think mods should not be paid, because otherwise people can't be a professional modder. but valve should have initialized and emphasized on a donation program for modders instead. and taking 75% off the sale is insane... why should the original game developers get 45% for doing nothing? they should get only 5-10%(i know there are legal issues but still think original game dev should not get near half of the profit). steam should get ~20% and rest should go to modders.

    and the main reason people are getting angry because they played insane amount of insanely well created mods for skyrim for absolutely free. now they have to pay 2$ for horse**** (literally)? seriously? gamers also afraid of this program because they think the mods which they played for free for years now might become paid mods.

    also these paid mods are like non official DLCs. and thanks to EA whenever we think about DLC we get hysteria .

    and there are more problems... there were mods extended from other mods.. what happens now?


    just like totalbiscuit said- steam has a pseudo monopoly in content creation now. they will eventually use that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    Also, don't forget the roots of valve: CS, Dota etc...all were free mods.
    DOTA is still free but I get what you mean T_T


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trave160 View Post
    Valve is now back-paddling?
    No, they wont. They are going to use this system for upcoming dota 2 custom games; L4D3 etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawkill View Post
    DOTA is still free but I get what you mean T_T
    It is only free because most of dota's player base is in South America, Russia, China. Three regions who will not pay $60 monthly for a game.
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
    Please do not PM me for support. You will NOT get a reply. Post in the relevant forum section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CvP View Post
    It is only free because most of dota's player base is in South America, Russia, China. Three regions who will not pay $60 monthly for a game.

    its only free because it has a big huge alternative like lol.... if somehow lol disappears one morning valve might wanna introduce the subscription system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    its only free because it has a big huge alternative like lol.... if somehow lol disappears one morning valve might wanna introduce the subscription system.
    ^This

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousTaher View Post
    its only free because it has a big huge alternative like lol.... if somehow lol disappears one morning valve might wanna introduce the subscription system.
    No. LoL is free for the same reason.
    The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power.
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