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    Ekta internal DVD writer bhalo brand suggest koren in terms of price and performance.

    KI newa jai? 1200 te LITEON? Naki Asus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REVx View Post
    Ekta internal DVD writer bhalo brand suggest koren in terms of price and performance.

    KI newa jai? 1200 te LITEON? Naki Asus?
    1200 te Samsung.

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    Asus.

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    1200 te asus ??? !!!!
    If it's brand new I doubt about its cache and speed.
    1200 te samsung (brand suggestion)

    If you go higher, go for Asus or LG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahib View Post
    1200 te asus ??? !!!!
    If it's brand new I doubt about its cache and speed.
    1200 te samsung (brand suggestion)

    If you go higher, go for Asus or LG.
    daam sure na, ekhon r keu egula use kore!

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    Asus rebadges LiteOn drives. For similar spec'd drives only difference is the front face plate. The rest of the hardware and the base code of the firmware is exact same.

    I have extensively researched DVD burners in past few years to understand how to get best quality burns. From my understanding after that,

    1. Samsungs are best for reading the discs. They have higher read speeds and high tolerance for errors. Their write quality is not that good, almost poor.
    2. Best write quality is found in latest Sony Optirac drives. I don't think they are available in BD.
    3. LiteON/Asus is well balanced. They have modded and unmodded firmwares available and various tools to change device level settings. Also they can be used to check the burn quality of disk, a feature which other brands usually lack.
    4. LG is subpar in most aspects. Might be like samsung sometimes, good reads, not so good writes.

    I personally like LiteON/Asus. I prefer buying asus drives (because I don't actually like the rounded front face of the liteon drives ), and then flashing it with compatible liteon firmware to make all the liteon tools compatible.

    Also note, by burn quality I'm talking about C1/C2 error rate, in which high quality means the discs are the highest readable by any drive right after burning. You won't practically notice the difference if you don't use the discs with multiple drives and a few of them fails to read them. But from my personal experience a drive that gives good quality burns usually gives consistant output over time and lower possiblity of failed burns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swapnil View Post
    Asus rebadges LiteOn drives. For similar spec'd drives only difference is the front face plate. The rest of the hardware and the base code of the firmware is exact same.

    I have extensively researched DVD burners in past few years to understand how to get best quality burns. From my understanding after that,

    1. Samsungs are best for reading the discs. They have higher read speeds and high tolerance for errors. Their write quality is not that good, almost poor.
    2. Best write quality is found in latest Sony Optirac drives. I don't think they are available in BD.
    3. LiteON/Asus is well balanced. They have modded and unmodded firmwares available and various tools to change device level settings. Also they can be used to check the burn quality of disk, a feature which other brands usually lack.
    4. LG is subpar in most aspects. Might be like samsung sometimes, good reads, not so good writes.

    I personally like LiteON/Asus. I prefer buying asus drives (because I don't actually like the rounded front face of the liteon drives ), and then flashing it with compatible liteon firmware to make all the liteon tools compatible.

    Also note, by burn quality I'm talking about C1/C2 error rate, in which high quality means the discs are the highest readable by any drive right after burning. You won't practically notice the difference if you don't use the discs with multiple drives and a few of them fails to read them. But from my personal experience a drive that gives good quality burns usually gives consistant output over time and lower possiblity of failed burns.
    you really don't have anything else to do right?
    can u help me with couple of my assignments?

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    @Swapnil bhai, i recently bought a liteon burner [maybe iHAS322 or sth similar]. burn those ydd cheapo dvds with that burner. out of say 30 discs, 3-4 failed to burn at all. were the discs responsible or the drive... and how do you perform that burn quality check. i use nero 7 to burn my dvds. thanks.
    and i settled for the liteon cause i burned a xgd3 game so did a little research and found that liteons were best for burning those games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwan hasan View Post
    you really don't have anything else to do right?
    can u help me with couple of my assignments?
    LOL. I have a rare talent of wasting massive amount of time doing unnecessary things.

    Quote Originally Posted by zunaid View Post
    @Swapnil bhai, i recently bought a liteon burner [maybe iHAS322 or sth similar]. burn those ydd cheapo dvds with that burner. out of say 30 discs, 3-4 failed to burn at all. were the discs responsible or the drive... and how do you perform that burn quality check. i use nero 7 to burn my dvds. thanks.
    and i settled for the liteon cause i burned a xgd3 game so did a little research and found that liteons were best for burning those games.
    YDDs are highly unpredictable. I've burned around 200 YDD discs untill now. Some of them (usually the older ones) burns better than Verbatim discs but the recent ones are simply crap. YDD copies media code and disc die technology from Verbatim DVD-Rs and burning original verbatim discs after burning YDDs gives bad results for first 5-6 burns because of the drive's media learning feature. But one of the good thing about YDD's are if they burn OK then they does not degrade over time. Moserbaer and Mitshubishi discs degrade their burn quality quickly over time even if you store them properly.

    You can check DVD's for burn quality with Nero Discspeed software. The version best works with LiteON drives is the "Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.7.16". Just do a Transfer rate test at 16x and a Disc Quality scan at 4x speed. If the transfer rate curve is smooth, the PIE section of the quality scan curve has an average below 70 and no mountain like segments, and the PIF section has no large area that is above the value 2, then the burn quality is good.

    Here is an example of a very good burn I got:

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    An example of an acceptable one:

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    And an example of a very bad one:

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    Also, the discs (available in BD) I've found works best with the current gen LiteON drives are Verbatim DVD+Rs. I've bought them from a shop in Baitul Mukarram market, took around 950tk for 50 discs box. Definitely better deal than 180tk/10 disc box of YDD considering the quality difference. And contrary to popular belief, these discs burn better at 16x than 8x write speed.
    Last edited by Swapnil; March 10th, 2015 at 03:40.

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    wow! very detailed answer... thanks... will try to check the dvd burn quality next time... and i thought ydds cost 11-12 tk per piece. i usually buy 50 pc for 600tk or sth... i forgot.
    and i too believed that burning at a slower speed yielded better more stable burns easily readable by older drives... i found that burning at higher speed cause older drives to struggle to read them even though the newly bought dvd burners read the discs easily.
    anyways, thanks for the info. very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swapnil View Post
    LOL. I have a rare talent of wasting massive amount of time doing unnecessary things.
    Gawd!!! It sounds so wrong.....

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    I personally love Liteon writers for their great ability to make working backup of protected discs (especially Securom). If you want to choose your own, can follow Optical Drive forum at Club Myce. Reviews, real life examples, tools etc. can be found there.


    http://club.myce.com/f61/

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