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    Unhappy CPU Overclocking Problem

    I wanted to OC my processor [I am total noob at this]
    But I couldn't

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    2GB DDRII 800Mhz

    What I did:
    Multiplier Value: 13 (6-13 Supported) Fine Tuning .5
    CPU Clock Overclocking : Enabled (Value 266, 200 is the default) [266x13.5=3.6Ghz]

    What I got:
    After restarting when to start the windows-
    BOOTMGR Image is corrupt. System can not load.



    I didn't change anything else. Then I set back to OC to disable then windows started again. Then I lowered the multiplier to OC it 3.33Ghz but the same error occurred.

    Does OC has any issue with windows 7?
    Running 64bit Win7 Ultimate.
    If I OC windows doesn't start.

    So what to do? Any Experts here ?

    Searching with the problem Found this link: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...a-922f216384c0
    Last edited by abir; November 22nd, 2010 at 02:47.

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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    Missing bootmgr is a symptom of low voltage or unstable RAM (= overall unstable OC). I recommend clocking it at 2.8->2.9->3.0 GHz with all voltages set to "Auto", and set the RAM divider accordingly so that the RAM doesn't run into problem(s). Do not jump to 3.6 in the first try, you are likely to run into problems.


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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    Missing bootmgr is a symptom of low voltage or unstable RAM (= overall unstable OC). I recommend clocking it at 2.8->2.9->3.0 GHz with all voltages set to "Auto", and set the RAM divider accordingly so that the RAM doesn't run into problem(s). Do not jump to 3.6 in the first try, you are likely to run into problems.
    Thanks a lot.
    Doesn't my G41m-e2sl Gigabyte mobo support 1066Mhz?
    When I set auto SPD it goes to 1066 from 800 to match with the FSB.

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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    But your RAMS are by default 800MHZ right? As you OC your CPU, your RAM is OC'd as well. If by default it is 800MHz the n OCing it to 1066mhz will blow it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    Thanks a lot.
    Doesn't my G41m-e2sl Gigabyte mobo support 1066Mhz?
    When I set auto SPD it goes to 1066 from 800 to match with the FSB.
    I think your RAM is holding you back. Well, think from this perspective. Your motherboard supports FSB of upto 300+ MHz. But that would result in a 5 GHz + OC on your CPU, which is clearly not stable. Now visualize the same about your RAM. So, it doesn't matter what your motherboard supports or not when your actual product holds you back. Try to set RAM at the lowest frequency when overclocking, because you will be able to tweak it later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    But your RAMS are by default 800MHZ right? As you OC your CPU, your RAM is OC'd as well. If by default it is 800MHz the n OCing it to 1066mhz will blow it!
    yah my rams are DDRII 800 MHz.
    if i set auto then it automatically increases to 1066 I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    yah my rams are DDRII 800 MHz.
    if i set auto then it automatically increases to 1066 I guess.
    There is either a ratio setting or a frequency drop down list somewhere, adjust them accordingly. Do not let it go over 800.


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    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    There is either a ratio setting or a frequency drop down list somewhere, adjust them accordingly. Do not let it go over 800.
    do i need to change voltage?

    here I found a good overclocking guide i guess : http://forums.overclockersclub.com/i...howtopic=71656

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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    do i need to change voltage?

    here I found a good overclocking guide i guess : http://forums.overclockersclub.com/i...howtopic=71656
    You want guides? They are here, here, here and here. The one you linked is for Core 2 Quads, but these are for Core 2 Duos. The method is almost the same on sub-i7 CPUs, but linking the actual Core 2 Duo guides as you said you are new to overclocking. Read all of them, summarize them, and follow them. Each overclocker has his own preferences, so you might see that one suggests doing something while the other one forbids. Read specially the RAM portion of each guide.

    You may not need to re-adjust voltage on mild overclocks, but for fairly aggressive overclocks, you need to re-adjust voltage. We, overclockers, while overclocking, have to consider hundreds of possible combination. So, to reduce the complexity, we start with all voltages set to "Auto" and memory to lowest possible settings. But beware, Auto will set pretty dangerous voltages for high overclocks. So, we do this for moderate overclocks only, and I believe you also are doing a moderate overclock (upto 3.6-3.7 GHz). After we get the CPU stable, we turn to the RAM and voltages. We first try to take manual control over the CPU voltage, and try to minimize it as much as possible while maintaining 100% stability. Then we overclock the RAM slightly over its rated frequency (keep it a bit lower if you have not bought a high performance RAM) and see how far it goes. If the RAM is highly overclocked, we might need to increase its voltage a bit, otherwise it is not necessary. These are the basic rules, and 80% of the time the OC is successful. But in some cases it might not be, and thats where experience matters.

    I am quoting from an article to clarify the RAM issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=63690
    Dividers:
    In my opinion, memory dividers are under-rated in the overclocking world. A lot of times, an overclocked system will reach an instability or fail point, and it will not be clear whether the processor or the memory has failed. For this reason, people are always looking to test one part individually. A memory divider can let you do this.

    Memory dividers allow you to run the memory at a slower speed than the chip. So, for example, you could run your chip's FSB at 250mhz, but run the memory at 208mhz. This is done using a 5:6 memory divider. (250 * 5/6 = 208) By doing this, you can slow your memory down to stable speeds and only overclock the processor. This allows you to attribute any instability directly to the processor, rather than having to guess what is causing it.

    Slower memory speeds are often undesirable for a system, since they slow the memory down, but they can be used for two reasons. First is for testing, as mentioned above. By slowing the memory down to stock speeds or lower, you can be sure that the memory is not causing overclocking failures. The other reason to do this is that some processors simply can't support memory speeds that high. By slowing the memory down, some chips can actually overclock much further, so even though the memory is slower, the system as a whole will run faster.

    Memory dividers can also be referred to as "max memory speeds". A 5:6 memory divider may be referred to as 166 max memory speed, since 5/6 * 200 = 166. Another example would be a 1:2 divider and a 100 max memory.

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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    will it be good to increase the FSB to 400 from 200 and set the multiplier 8. [400x8 =3.2Ghz] to match with the DRAM 1:1?

    How about software oc? Easy tune utility good for overclocking?

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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    will it be good to increase the FSB to 400 from 200 and set the multiplier 8. [400x8 =3.2Ghz] to match with the DRAM 1:1?
    I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I'm not quite confident that you would be able to get the FSB stable at that high number.

    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    How about software oc? Easy tune utility good for overclocking?
    No. Real men overclock with BIOS. These tools 1. will not provide enough flexibility 2. are buggy 3. may cause system instability. These are for noob overclockers. Of course everyone starts as a noob, but everyone does not remain noob for his entire life. Even though BIOS is a bit complex, you'll find everything you need here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    will it be good to increase the FSB to 400 from 200 and set the multiplier 8. [400x8 =3.2Ghz] to match with the DRAM 1:1?

    How about software oc? Easy tune utility good for overclocking?
    I've seen people talking about having a 1:1 ratio is so awesome and stuff, but akhono kono proper reasons dekhlam na kothao :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post
    I've seen people talking about having a 1:1 ratio is so awesome and stuff, but akhono kono proper reasons dekhlam na kothao :S
    That I've read in computer architecture course also.. 1:1 ratio is lot faster mathematically should be good in practically also :S

    here is a overclock spec of my mobo:http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/print...otherboard/862
    it supports 1066 thru oc.

    Here is some screenshot of my bios overclocking screen.



    Last edited by abir; November 23rd, 2010 at 17:00.

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    Default Re: CPU Overclocking Problem

    amaro 1:1 na as i have normal rams. Kept them at 800mhz.

    ---------- Post added at 15:50 ---------- Previous post was at 15:49 ----------

    Crime !!!

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    Chor abir bhai chor!

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    chor abir bhai chor!
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    crime !!!
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    ish, koto din ei shob topic niye pura detached
    Have Fun Ocing Abir bhayia, it's easy once you get the hang of it- amr CPU ekhon 3.6GHz running- E8400.

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    Chor abir bhai chor!
    Quote Originally Posted by dipanzan View Post
    ish, koto din ei shob topic niye pura detached
    Have Fun Ocing Abir bhayia, it's easy once you get the hang of it- amr CPU ekhon 3.6GHz running- E8400.
    তুমি তাইলে একটু গাইডেন্স দাও আমিতো পুরাই নুব এই ব্যাপারে..

    "Game after game after game, I realized what is most important of my life - FOOTBALL.."
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    Quote Originally Posted by abir View Post
    তুমি তাইলে একটু গাইডেন্স দাও আমিতো পুরাই নুব এই ব্যাপারে..
    hmm accha, guides jeta proton bhaiya dise oitai more than enough. But apnar motherboard er moto appropiate nao hote pare guide gula, but the overall concept is the same for LGA775 sockets. You increase the FSB, tweak the FSB : DRAM ratio so that the RAM is between a safe threshold & then up the voltage as necessary.

    As for the voltage dont go above 1.35V, reaching 3GHz should be easy!

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    Noob dipanzan! Close kore diso ken thread ta

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