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    Default Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Hello guys,

    I have a Core i7 860 @ stock 2.8 GHz and had it running for a few months using the stock cooler. The stock cooler is awfully awful, it has 0.75" thick aluminium fins, and a "kinda" silent fan. This stock 1156 box cooler was intended for low noise and small cases, I know. But what is the point of sleeping in peace when your CPU is burning at 94°C? This cooler looks like one third of a Pentium D cooler! Come on Intel, either give good coolers, or drop the price and let us take care of the cooling system. I do graphics designing, gaming, video editing and encoding and 3D modeling. And the stock cooler has horrified me countless times when doing anything (with the exception of gaming).
    At an ambient of 33°C, the CPU cores idled at around 46°C. Maybe thats more likely because of the i7 downclocking feature than the efficiency of the cooler, LOL. Gaming used to hit 60-67°C. Prime 95 Large FFTs used to hit around 84°C. 3D rendering using mental ray hit 81-82°C. And the worst nightmare, Linpack x64 pushed it as high as 90°C!!

    So I dismantled the case, removed the stock cooler and installed Thermaltake SpinQ VT.

    This cooler is HUGE, and the stock one looks like a child when put side by side. But what about performance? Let's find out.

    Installing was painful, I had never installed aftermarket CPU cooler before. So, I had hard time deciding how and how much thermal grease should be applied. I tried spreading a thin layer over the CPU and ran prime 95. Temps jumped near 96 instantly and I shut it down. Removed cooler, cleaned, applied a lot, and booted. This time, prime 95 hit 90C. Something was wrong. Removed cooler, cleaned, applied just one drop at the center, and booted. Finally, it showed acceptable temps around 67°C. I'm not sure if that is 100% perfect, though, but its best I've found, and I can't risk doing it again and messing everything up in some way. I'm satisfied with 67°C, ha ha.

    After installing this cooler, I ran the old benchmarks again to make a comparison. The CPU cores idled at around 38°C. Prime 95 Large FFT hits 67°C now. That Linpack benchmark hits 71°C. Gaming (Crysis, UT3 mainly) hovers around 42-52°C. Rendering gets 60-63°C and yes, the ambient is still 33°C.

    I made a comparison below to summarize the things.

    Please note that the temperatures I have mentioned is the average of the "core" temperatures, not to be confused with "CPU" temperatures. I used realtremp and coretemp to monitor the temperatures.



    Please feel free to share your opinions on this subject. If you have the same cooler or CPU or both, then please share your own experiences.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by proton_chain; October 26th, 2010 at 19:09.


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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Thanks for your review. Your temperatures are ok. It should be lower @ Stock speeds. What thermal grease have you used?

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    SpinQ VT has a problem, theres no way to put more pressure on CPU with it, because it use standard Inter mount clip for 775. Just using nuts and bolts instead of Intel mount would make a significant difference.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by CHR.M4NTIS View Post
    Thanks for your review. Your temperatures are ok. It should be lower @ Stock speeds. What thermal grease have you used?
    It is at stock speeds. At 3.6 GHz (1.2v) it hits 78-79C on Prime95. I could lower the voltage, that way I could've got 74-75C but I did not have the time to toy around. I have used the one that came with the cooler. I still am confused about how to install thermal grease "perfectly".

    Quote Originally Posted by AmareX View Post
    SpinQ VT has a problem, theres no way to put more pressure on CPU with it, because it use standard Inter mount clip for 775. Just using nuts and bolts instead of Intel mount would make a significant difference.
    That is what I meant by "installation was painful". First time, the pressure was inadequate and temps rose to 90s. I did not know that it doesn't use backplate based design. But it was the only one available around. Is there any way to solve this maybe some converter or can I just manually install a backplate and mount it with screws? I cut my hand trying to uninstall-reinstall the heatsink and pressurizing it.
    Last edited by proton_chain; October 26th, 2010 at 19:08.

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    No need for a backplate (of course its better if you can make one with hard plastic/metal wrapped in plastic) , just use screws with bolts, cut some hard plastic round shaped and use them with screws so it doesn't sort motherboards joints. Be careful, don't put too much pressure, there is no backplate so over pressure will bend your motherboard.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by AmareX View Post
    No need for a backplate (of course its better if you can make one with hard plastic/metal wrapped in plastic) , just use screws with bolts, cut some hard plastic round shaped and use them with screws so it doesn't sort motherboards joints. Be careful, don't put too much pressure, there is no backplate so over pressure will bend your motherboard.
    Have you done that? Did it further lower the temperature? I'm seriously considering it. I even went to buy these stuff a few days ago!

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    I had a SpinQ, not VT, but they are more/less same.
    I used just nuts and bolts, no backplate, I made so much pressure that almost bend my mobo, but it worked, the temp difference was significant. I don't suggest you to do it if you are satisfied or getting good temps with current config.
    Besides, use some good thermal paste, they play a big role on hotter CPUs. Apply the paste properly, that part is tricky. I used AS5.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Use the line method for your processor. - http://www.arcticsilver.com/methods.html
    This method works best with thermal pastes like MX-3/TG-1 (The thick ones).
    I dunno abt the grease supplied with VT, but the one supplied with the vanilla SPINQ is pure BS.Using a line of TG-1 dropped my temps by 5 degrees.
    It is said everywhere not to use much,but don 't use too less either. The way people warn you abt using too much ususally leads you into applying an inadequate of TIM.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by proton_chain View Post
    Hello guys,

    ......

    M. A. Akif Mustofa Khan Shuvo.
    u had problems with ur stock cooler or the thermal paste. 94 degrees is way off chart. Actually it reminds me of my prescott pentium 4s.

    Also wat casing are u using ????

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by AmareX View Post
    I had a SpinQ, not VT, but they are more/less same.
    I used just nuts and bolts, no backplate, I made so much pressure that almost bend my mobo, but it worked, the temp difference was significant. I don't suggest you to do it if you are satisfied or getting good temps with current config.
    Besides, use some good thermal paste, they play a big role on hotter CPUs. Apply the paste properly, that part is tricky. I used AS5.
    Where can I find AS5 in BD? IDB? Come on... not there just for TIM... And how "significant" was the change? Please give me a before-after result. I'm not gonna break anything... don't worry. I just like to redesign things to suit my taste. SpinQ and SpinQ VT are same except the color and the fact that one stays tall and another is bent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlock View Post
    Use the line method for your processor. - http://www.arcticsilver.com/methods.html
    This method works best with thermal pastes like MX-3/TG-1 (The thick ones).
    I dunno abt the grease supplied with VT, but the one supplied with the vanilla SPINQ is pure BS.Using a line of TG-1 dropped my temps by 5 degrees.
    It is said everywhere not to use much,but don 't use too less either. The way people warn you abt using too much ususally leads you into applying an inadequate of TIM.
    Too much or too less = ? that is the question...

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    u had problems with ur stock cooler or the thermal paste. 94 degrees is way off chart. Actually it reminds me of my prescott pentium 4s.

    Also wat casing are u using ????
    I assure you that none of that happened. The stock cooler is just crap by itself and everything else is fine. You wouldn't understand if you haven't seen it, its tiny. My Pentium D had a much better stock cooler.

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    SpinQ vt probably has the worst finishing which is probably causing it to improper contact. I would LAP the contact surface of the HS if i was in ur place.

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    SpinQ vt probably has the worst finishing which is probably causing it to improper contact. I would LAP the contact surface of the HS if i was in ur place.
    Because u are pro ... Any normal guy would become senseless if you explain "lapping" to him !!!

    Don't know about VT, but SpinQ has quite a good surface, mirror finished baseplate .. it never caused a improper contact for me.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Spinq 's drawback is that it applies less pressure on the IHS as Amarex said.The mounting system is a joke for a 500g cooler.
    Even lapping shouldn 't help (according to my assumption that is) because that would result into even less pressure exerted on the cpu surface.
    And my Spinq had an excellent finish on the base.Perfectly even and a mirror-finish.It was just too bad of a cooler.
    2 'f the best coolers to date have a rough base.So even if the VT has a rough base, that should be for good reasons.
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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by minitt View Post
    SpinQ vt probably has the worst finishing which is probably causing it to improper contact. I would LAP the contact surface of the HS if i was in ur place.
    I also considered lapping but the surface was very flat like a mirror. I could see perfect reflections. Even if I did, I doubt it would improve performance as it has limited pressure. It does not require any backplate. Strange if you ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlock View Post
    Spinq 's drawback is that it applies less pressure on the IHS as Amarex said.The mounting system is a joke for a 500g cooler.
    Even lapping shouldn 't help (according to my assumption that is) because that would result into even less pressure exerted on the cpu surface.
    And my Spinq had an excellent finish on the base.Perfectly even and a mirror-finish.It was just too bad of a cooler.
    2 'f the best coolers to date have a rough base.So even if the VT has a rough base, that should be for good reasons.
    Agreed.

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    Default Re: Intel® Core i7 860 with Thermaltake SpinQ VT cooler

    my max temp is 76 degrees while playing games which use 100% of the first core. (like hot pursuit or Dead space).

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