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    After that 100k PC Build thread, I realized I'm also one of the people who buys whatever RAMs are suggested by the shopkeepers. So, now I'm on my quest to understand the difference between various memory modules. If anyone knows more about this, please enlighten me over the following points.


    • I used to think the Twinmos, Transcend, Adata, Team modules are value RAMs, but Corsair Vengence, Gskill Ripjaws & Snipers, Kingston HyperXes are gaming/performance RAMs. I thought only value modules are widely available at BD market, and the gaming/performance modules are rare to find and very costly (probably two times costly compared to value rams)
    • Now after some looking around I can see that Ripjaws or Vengences costs only 500-600TK more for 4GB than Transcend and AData modules.
    • So, where is the difference between those transcends & adatas and ripjaws & vengences? By any chance are the ripjaws and vengences value modules too? If not, then why don't we all buy those instead of the Transcend and Adata value modules?


    Mentioning @Sumit Pramanik because he has similar questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaz_swapnil View Post
    After that 100k PC Build thread, I realized I'm also one of the people who buys whatever RAMs are suggested by the shopkeepers. So, now I'm on my quest to understand the difference between various memory modules. If anyone knows more about this, please enlighten me over the following points.


    • I used to think the Twinmos, Transcend, Adata, Team modules are value RAMs, but Corsair Vengence, Gskill Ripjaws & Snipers, Kingston HyperXes are gaming/performance RAMs. I thought only value modules are widely available at BD market, and the gaming/performance modules are rare to find and very costly (probably two times costly compared to value rams)
    • Now after some looking around I can see that Ripjaws or Vengences costs only 500-600TK more for 4GB than Transcend and AData modules.
    • So, where is the difference between those transcends & adatas and ripjaws & vengences? By any chance are the ripjaws and vengences value modules too? If not, then why don't we all buy those instead of the Transcend and Adata value modules?


    Mentioning @Sumit Pramanik because he has similar questions.
    well, from what i know, and i don't know much about RAMs is that the performance difference between value ram and gaming ram is negligeble especially in case of gaming. and here by value ram i'm referring to a 1600MHz cl11 ram and by gaming ram to a 1600Mhz CL9 ram.

    besides performance though there's always the question of quality. and i have no clue about that.

    u may tag Vanguard bhai, he knows a lot about rams.

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    Mentioning @VANGUARD as per above suggestion.

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    why everything with upgraded performance has to be called "gaming"?

    you can differentiate both so called "value ram" & "gaming ram" by timing. value rams usually have inferior (i mean not hand picked) ics with loose timing. gaming rams have better timing but not always have hand picked chips. for example corsair vengeance doesnt use selected chips but dominator does. besides performance rams come through better quality control and so expected to be overclocked better than "value ram".

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    for day to day use there is not much difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaz_swapnil View Post
    After that 100k PC Build thread, I realized I'm also one of the people who buys whatever RAMs are suggested by the shopkeepers. So, now I'm on my quest to understand the difference between various memory modules. If anyone knows more about this, please enlighten me over the following points.


    • I used to think the Twinmos, Transcend, Adata, Team modules are value RAMs, but Corsair Vengence, Gskill Ripjaws & Snipers, Kingston HyperXes are gaming/performance RAMs. I thought only value modules are widely available at BD market, and the gaming/performance modules are rare to find and very costly (probably two times costly compared to value rams)
    • Now after some looking around I can see that Ripjaws or Vengences costs only 500-600TK more for 4GB than Transcend and AData modules.
    • So, where is the difference between those transcends & adatas and ripjaws & vengences? By any chance are the ripjaws and vengences value modules too? If not, then why don't we all buy those instead of the Transcend and Adata value modules?


    Mentioning @Sumit Pramanik because he has similar questions.
    A twinmos 1600Mhz ram with 9-9-9-24-1T is better than Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24-2T. For more understanding, read this: http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...ght=ram+timing

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    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    A twinmos 1600Mhz ram with 9-9-9-24-1T is better than Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24-2T. For more understanding, read this: http://banglagamer.com/showthread.ph...ght=ram+timing
    So, basically the ones with better timings and ferquencies are better, regardless of brand and model, right? Or is there anything about quality, stability and overclockability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaz_swapnil View Post
    So, basically the ones with better timings and ferquencies are better, regardless of brand and model, right? Or is there anything about quality, stability and overclockability?
    .Yes.

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    I only think the performance RAMs have better quality with better reliability and better OC headroom. Mainly better quality, since I know corsair or gskill rams will be better.

    But if you ask me, memory timings and speeds do not make any tangible difference now since memory bandwidth is not the main bottleneck culprit right now for computer performance. (hard disk still remains one of the major bottlenecks since many havent upgraded to SSDs yet.) So if you buy a value RAM with loose timings and around 1600Mhz speed, you will be ok. This is why DDR4 will also be not worthwhile for upgrade for maybe 6 more years.

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    I totally agree with @[email protected] Gaming RAM does gives you a better performance than Value RAM. But in my opinion that extra money is not worth the minuscule performance gain.

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    Thanks everyone. So far, most of my initial questions are answered. Now I can start googling at right direction. I'm researching as my schedule for next system upgrade is coming up. This time I plan to keep good OC headroom and try to get good quality and reliable parts. On the 6.5 years runtime of my current PC the only core component that gave me real pain were few pairs of Adata RAM, even without any kind of memory overclocking.

    Quote Originally Posted by codename5302 View Post
    you can differentiate both so called "value ram" & "gaming ram" by timing. value rams usually have inferior (i mean not hand picked) ics with loose timing. gaming rams have better timing but not always have hand picked chips. for example corsair vengeance doesnt use selected chips but dominator does. besides performance rams come through better quality control and so expected to be overclocked better than "value ram".

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    for day to day use there is not much difference.
    So I can consider the Vengences as value modules like the transcend and adata ones available at BD market, and the dominators as the performance modules? That explains the Vengences being close to Adata or Transcend module prices. But one additional question, will vengences/ripjaws still be of better quality than the transcends, even if they have similar timing and performance?


    Quote Originally Posted by VANGUARD View Post
    I have read your article long ago, and understand the timings and performances well enough. I just don't know which brand and model in the market fits where in the spectrum. I guess I have to do a proper research on that. Also there is the factor of reliability and OCbility. Like you were saying transcends are crap on that thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    I only think the performance RAMs have better quality with better reliability and better OC headroom. Mainly better quality, since I know corsair or gskill rams will be better.

    But if you ask me, memory timings and speeds do not make any tangible difference now since memory bandwidth is not the main bottleneck culprit right now for computer performance. (hard disk still remains one of the major bottlenecks since many havent upgraded to SSDs yet.) So if you buy a value RAM with loose timings and around 1600Mhz speed, you will be ok. This is why DDR4 will also be not worthwhile for upgrade for maybe 6 more years.
    I'm in fact looking for good quality and OC headroom. Also my new build would need a lot of general computing power as I plan to study computational fluid dynamics. I'll need an SSD or maybe a Ramdisk to run the simulations from if the IO operations start bottlenecking.

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    then I think you should buy a core i7 and performance SSD (like 850 pro or intel 530 that are write intensive). Even then, i do not think your RAM will be bottleneck though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaz_swapnil View Post

    So I can consider the Vengences as value modules like the transcend and adata ones available at BD market, and the dominators as the performance modules? That explains the Vengences being close to Adata or Transcend module prices. But one additional question, will vengences/ripjaws still be of better quality than the transcends, even if they have similar timing and performance?
    you can as corsair is gradually moving away from their value ram series. actually you need to do research about which chips are used in the rams. samsung is the best but i dont think any other memory manufacturer use them. third party memory makers use hynix, micron chips. both are good but quality varies among different memory makers. it is not that corsair doesnt make faulty rams or adata makes only faulty rams but third tire memory makers usually pick up the worse chips to reduce cost. so it is better to buy from reputed memory makers (i should say assemblers ). what i have heard is transcend is the worst of all. i would advice to stay away from them.

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