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    Default the ultimate PC vs Console thread

    well.... after watch dogs controversy and ac unity 30fps is enough controversy... had to open a pc vs console thread.



    Objective:
    To discuss about pros and cons about pc gaming and console gaming.
    To help those who are considering to switch from pc gaming to console gaming and vice versa.
    This thread is not created to prove gaming in one particular platform is better than the other.

    Rule:

    Note: try to use English language because hopefully gamers of all over the world will browse this thread.

    Note: Any kind of personal attacks is NOT allowed.
    for example- "console gamers are 12 years old sucking lollipops like noobs, we are master race."

    "pc gamers are privileged people and making parents bankrupt by buying expensive pcs."
    these kinds of personal attacks are not allowed.
    feel free to press the 'report' button(bottom left corner of every post) if you see personal attacks/off topics.

    All kinds of discussions/corrections/information are more than welcome, as long as you can behave like a man, not a child.
    If you want flame wars, go comment under some youtube videos oh my god those comments...

    Note:
    In this thread console means xbox1 or ps4, not wii u or nintendo 3ds (with all due respect to them).
    In this thread pc means desktop computer, not gaming laptop.


    Note:
    All information of this thread are dated as mid or late 2014 or early 2015. so don't be crazy if you visit this thread later and see outdated information.

    Try not to quote the whole opening post, quote partial post if possible (quoting whole post will make your reply big)





    PC-


    Graphics-

    PC graphics are incomparable. 1080p(or 1440p) with 40-60(or more) fps is just amazing. You can even play at 4k high settings if you have the money.
    Of course pc can not beat console at 400$ budget at this moment (thread opening time), but if you can increase the budget a little bit it will.

    Also there are many graphics mods for pc to improve graphics even more (never say enough -_- ), for example- skyrim, gta4 graphics mod. Skyrim looks amazing and gta 4 pc graphics mods can beat graphics of gta 5 ps3/x360

    And also, even if some devs decide to downgrade graphics to make them on par with console, pc gamers often find a way.


    Online multiplayer-

    For online experience pc is incomparable. pc has a wide variety of online games which wont come for consoles anytime soon (if they ever do).
    Games like warcraft/ dota/ lol/ counter strike/garrys mod/ arma/ will probably never come to console (dayz is coming for ps4 , minecraft is coming for xbox1)

    In case you don't know- you will not be charged 60$ if you decide to play online multiplayer with a pc.



    Lan multiplayer-

    Now a days lan option is being disabled by devs, but you can still play old pc games in lan parties, and there are even some 'ways' to play newer titles which don't have lan feature out of the box in lan parties (without internet connection).

    For consoles you have to split screen, which is no fun, and playing anything other than racing games with split screen is very annoying.



    Free to play-

    In modern days free to play games make much more profit than paid games. PC has a gigantic list of f2p games like- (here we go again) dota2/lol/warthunder/ team fortress2/path of exile/ dc universe/ etc. etc. etc. etc.
    http://banglagamer.com/showthread.php?97412-free-2-play

    Its amazing, you can enjoy so many free to play games you probably won't need any paid games anymore.



    Mods and steam workshop-

    Mods were the past, is the present, and will be the future of gaming world. for example- counter strike, team fortress, dota, dayz, insurgency, chivalry, day of defeat all were mods at first, later they became standalone video game. Now they are in the topchart of most played games in the world.

    In console, you are paying for what the developers are offering, but in pc, you are paying for the dev's offering+community mods.
    Skyrim has nearly 1 million mods, gta 4 and half life 2 each has half a million. Half life 2 mods played important roles in video gaming industry and many of them later became standalone video games- (previously mentioned) insurgency, chivalry, day of defeat.
    also there are many mods for games like arma 2/3 , call of duty 4/5, garry's mod etc.

    Moreover steam workshops made creating and consuming modding very easy, now a days many games have workshops.
    steam workshop made it lot easier for us to create and collect custom maps. company of heroes 2, counter strike go, portal 2, garry's mod, insurgency all have steam workshop to distribute mods/maps easier than ever.

    mods- you don't get what developers want you to get, you get even more.

    another point- many of the video game developers out now, were modders in the beginning of their carrier, later they started developing video games.



    Uber cheap game cd keys-

    Needless to say... praise lord gaben, even if there was no steam summer sale or winter sale, steam games would be much cheaper than (first hand) console games, also there are many cd key sites for pc games offering very good deals. And don't forget about bundle stars/humble bundles, pc gamers are overwhelmed by these type of promotions, giveaways and bundles. Both steam and origin often offer some games free, like payday on the house in october or battlefield 3 on the house in june 2014.

    Have a look at this- https://teksyndicate.com/gamedeals

    Always have a eye on allkeyshop, some popular cd key stores, pcgamer.com and bundles


    Steam summer sale= 6 months to 1 year old games(not best seller ones) at 10$ or less, games more than 1 year old- 5-8$, new games at 20-30$. And if you can get flash deals you can get games at 1-4$

    Examples- Watch dogs(60$) was released in mid 2014, within 8 months of release it can be bought within 3$.
    Witcher 3 wild hunt(60$) was available at 30$ within 1 week of release.



    PC exclusives-

    Most of the pc exclusive games are online multiplayers.
    Like- warcraft/starcraft/dota2/lol/ garrys mod/ arma/ counter strike/ company of heroes/planetside 2(which is coming to ps4 too)/ path of exile/ chivalry etc.
    Even game like crysis warhead is a pc exclusive, crysis (first title of the franchise) did not come for consoles for a long time.

    Strategy gamers/rpg/mmorpg gamers have no luck other than playing on pc, period.




    Indie devs-

    If you dont play indie games you are probably missing a lot. PC has a wide variety of indie games, some good examples are- mineraft/ path of exile/space engineers/ unturned/ banished/ blockscape/ robocraft etc. all are made by indie devs.
    Of course indie games are for consoles too but pc has a wide variety of indie games which consoles will never have.




    Backward compatibility -

    You can play 10 to 20 years old titles like age of empires/age of mythology/command and conquer generals/overlord/starcraft1 or prince of persia series with your beastly PC

    Consoles have no luck at this, though there is a new game streaming service called 'playstation now' but its expensive and you don't own the games, you will have to subscribe to their service for a limited amount of time. And there will be little to heavy lag depending on where you live.
    You can't even play metal gear solid 4 with your new console (without any streaming service).



    The decreasing number of console exclusives-

    One of the biggest selling point of consoles is exclusive games. Consoles used to have many exclusive games but devs are realizing that pc can not be ignored anymore, and in this generation porting from console to pc is easier than before. So Metal Gear 5 is coming for PC, Titanfall was released for PC and Xbox1, Dead Rising 3 later came for pc, No Man's Sky is coming for PS4 and PC. also, Star Citizen is going to be PC exclusive. So the number of console exclusives is probably decreasing in this gen, comparing to last gen consoles.



    Freedom of choice: Mouse-keyboard/gamepad, Tripple monitor, simulation gears

    There is no replace for mouse/keyboard in fps games. Although there are some devices for consoles to use mouse/keyboard just like pc.

    And if you feel uncomfortable with mouse to play action adventure games like batman arkham... then pc also has the freedom to use a wireless controller.

    Also, there is no limit in your playstyle, you can use tripple monitor for playing racing games or adventure games, and you can easily use wheel controllers and lot other simulation stuff.



    Price, Longevity and Upgradability-

    Device price war is a point where PC loses against console. but the thing is, you can still make a pc at console price range, it may not be as good as consoles but still good enough to make the use of freedom that PC offers. Also, if you can spend 25-35% more money than what a console costs you may probably get a good gaming PC for long term use.

    Also, console gamers often argue about the longevity of gaming PCs. but if you can buy a mid range pc (which costs approximately 40-50% more than a console)* you can easily play games with high to ultra graphics (with soothing frame rate experience and full hd resolution) for next 3 years at least. After that, you can still play new titles for couple of years more (without upgrading) but you just have to turn down the graphics to medium-high or medium-low graphics.

    Even if you want to play new titles at nearly ultra graphics with your mid range pc after 2 or 3 years you don't need to upgrade the whole system, most of the times you just have to upgrade the graphics card which probably costs only 35% of the whole system. so saying that you must upgrade again and again to play games at ultra is not true at all.


    *PC prices based on mid/late 2014, things may and will change in 2015/2016



    Warranty -

    For some consoles you need to pay approximately 60 additional dollars for extensive period of warranty (probably 3 years). But you can get 3 years(or more) warranty for cpu/motherboard/hard disk drive, two to three years(or more) warranty for graphics card/power supply etc. (without any additional expense other than product price).

    Warranty service matters because previous generation of consoles had a bad reputation for longevity. Note that xbox360 had 54% failure rate(2009) (link) and ps4 has 1% failure rate.(mid 2014) (link)

    Note: warranty duration depends on brand/region/other stuff. please contact your dealer to know proper information.




    E-sports-

    This is not a point worth considering if you are not a hardcore gamer, so ignore this.

    PC is all for e-sports, Consoles have some games for e-sports too, but comparing to PC e-sports scenario they are next to nothing, yes WCG International Grand Final will not be organized in 2014 but that does't mean e-sports is dead, 10 million dollar worth of Dota 2 tournament was organised as well as quarter million CS GO tournament.

    Dota2/cs go/lol/cod/bf/tf2/arma/tekken/street fighters+other fighting games... fifa/racing/sports game + a gigagntic list of pc games for e-sports

    Consoles are in e-sports scenario too, Fifa/Racing games/F1/Forza are in e-sports scenario, But again, Comparing to PC E-sports scenario they are nothing.




    Gameplay record/twitching-

    This is not a point worth considering if you are not youtuber or very social person


    xbox one and ps4 can record gameplay videos with their dvr, but they can only do it at 720p and 30fps, xbox1 can do it for 5 minutes and playstation 4 for (nearly) unlimited duration. but their advantage is little to no fps drops. consoles' twitching resolution are also same.

    a good gaming pc can record gameplay footage with little to no fps drops too. nvidia shadowplay and amd game dvr deducts only 5 to 10% of pc performance and let you record your gameplay at 1080p 60fps (or even more) for unlimited duration.




    Virtual reality:

    we don't know much about VR now (at thread opening time) but high chance VR will be primarily focused for pc because of hardware/software specification.



    Audio-

    This is not a major factor because both pc and console have digital audio outputs to connect to home theater or DAC.
    But you can use a sound card in pc for better quality audio setup with a budget limitation*. You can't use sound cards in consoles.

    *it depends.




    Most important thing-

    Lastly, the most important thing is- it's a pc... you can do anything, anything you want.
    You can use your PC for productivity, you can heavily edit your gameplay videos before uploading it to youtube.
    Tired of gaming? you can start modding games or making game trailers (using some in game footage) or making game wallpapers or running game forums, you can do all kinds of stuffs. pc is both for content creation and consumption where console is focused on content consumption only. So buying a pc is not just for entertainment, it's kind of like an investment if you can make the use of it.




    CONSOLE-



    Long term purchase-

    You dont have to upgrade every 2 or 3 years, buy new console once, for almost 7 years, unless your device gets rrd after couple of years of heavy usage.


    Price-

    you can save bucks by buying a console, and even after 2 years of release of this generation of consoles will probably beat 400$ pc.



    Exclusive games-

    this is probably the most important factor for console gamers. most of the pc exclusive games are multiplayer only, but console exclusives are generally both sp and mp. and if you dont play them you are missing out a lot.
    example- gow,metal gear,killzone,uncharted, rdr, gears of war,halo,infamous, last of us and many many more.



    Better optimization, Console is a priority to AAA devs-

    Console is still a priority to many multi platform developers, so you don't have to wait for game patches and graphics card drivers to be released to play the game with satisfying frame rate, it will just run out of the box, it will just run, isn't that what you want? On the other hand, last generation pc did not have many AAA games, there were lot of console exclusive AAA games. And pc has another great problem- poor port quality.


    No DRM, no need for high speed internet-

    Console disks have no drm so high speed internet is not needed when playing single player games.

    Most of the time pc gaming needs high speed internet because you need steam and origin to download game files. Now a days you need some kind of internet connectivity to be a pc gamer otherwise you will face very hard time.

    If you use console you can use both internet subscription system(buy/download games online) and no drm disks, but in pc, most of the times you will have to stick with game downloads and high speed internet.

    No drm policy really helps to share games with your friends, after you play a single player game you can give it to your friend for free.

    PC may have super cheap steam games, but most of the PC games have DRM so if you acknowledge the game sharing culture between friends/community, then console games are much cheaper, if not completely free .


    This works in the other way too, pc gamers don't need to bring 10 or 20 disks when traveling to another city, they need to remember their steam login details and to bring a portable hdd (if they don't have high speed internet in the place they have just traveled to)

    If you break/lost your disk then... good luck



    Graphics-

    Console may lose the textures/AA war against pc but it's still good enough, and just like i said console beats pc in graphics at same price range.
    And devs are rumored(or confirmed) to be downgrading pc graphics in many new games, so you might be better off with console (it depends how you look onto it).


    Game subscription-

    Console games are used to be expensive comparing to pc games, but now things are changing, thanks to playstation plus and xbox live... or new subscription system like ea access beta. these subscription systems can soon turn the tides of game price war. disadvantages- Consoles have very limited hdd. but you can replace or even add portable hdd.



    Controllers-

    Playing action adventure games with a wireless controller is much fun, and you have aim assist if you need to play fps, also there are measures to play with mouse keyboard in a console. Wireless controllers can be used in a pc too, but consoles come with them out of the box.



    Portability-

    Consoles are smaller/lighter than pc, so it has more portability if you go to friend's house.
    On the other hand gaming pcs are usually not micro/mini atx, so they are heavy.



    Easy to buy and access-

    If you are buying pc within a limited budget, you have to buy different parts and assemble it by yourself or a technician.
    If you buy things separately you have to search for information, read reviews, fix your budget etc. Also assembling a pc for the first time is quite a hassle if you don't watch youtube or read guides.
    Consoles are like- go to store, pay the money, come home, plug it in and play. simple as that.
    when new games come, you don't need to think about requirements etc. it just works. pc is very fragmented, console is not.

    Consoles are generally easy to use because you don't need to install the game, games are mostly like plug and play, also there is a upload to youtube button. (edit: there are lot of console games now have to be installed to play as game files getting bigger and bigger)



    Low wattage-

    Power cuts don't happen in developed countries, this point is for developing countries only.

    Consoles take 200w to 300w power, much less than a gaming pc. during power cuts you can run a console with a good 600va (500w) ips, where it will be difficult to run a gaming pc with 600va ips.
    (Use ups or stabilizer for voltage safety)
    (Neither this thread opener nor BG admins will take responsibility)



    Additional features-

    Consoles have many features like blu ray disk support, which can be very beneficial if you are a blue ray disk user. you can add a bluray drive to your pc too but its expensive at this moment.



    Conclusion-

    pc, xbox1, ps4 all have pros and cons, and sometimes they are not comparable. suppose all of your friends bought one particular brand of consoles, then you have to buy that console to play multiplayer with your friends.
    and sometimes, it depends on a particular gaming community/culture. suppose you are a battlefield player and you are going to buy next 2/3 titles of battlefield which are coming in 2015 and 2016, so you may have to acknowledge that battlefield 3 had 30 fps in last generation consoles with 24 players maximum in a server.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    console-

    long term-

    you dont have to upgrade every 2 or 3 years, buy new console once, for almost 7 years, unless your device get rrd after couple of years of heavy usage.


    price-

    you can save bucks by buying a console, and even after 2 years of release of this generation consoles will probably beat 400$ pc.


    graphics-

    console may lose the textures/AA war against pc but it's still good enough, and just like i said console beats pc in graphics at same price range.
    and devs are rumored(or confirmed) to be downgrading pc graphics in many new games, so you might be better off with console (it depends how you look onto it).


    exclusive games-

    most of the pc exclusive games are multiplayer only, but console exclusives are generally both sp and mp. and if you dont play them you are missing out a lot.
    example- gow,metal gear,killzone,uncharted, rdr, gears of war,halo,infamous and many more.


    game subscription-

    console games are used to be expensive comparing to pc games, but now things are changing, thanks to playstation plus and xbox live... or new subscription system like ea access beta. these subscription systems can soon turn the tides of game price war.

    controllers-

    playing action adventure games with a wireless controller is much fun, and you have aim assist if you need to play fps, also there are measures to play with mouse keyboard in a console.


    easy to use-

    consoles are generally easy to use because you don't need to install the game, games are like plug and play, also there is a upload to youtube button.

    features-
    and consoles have many features like blue ray disk support, which can be very beneficial if you are a blue ray disk user.
    1. You don't have to upgrade your PC either. Just tone down the settings a bit. It's not like your components grow weaker and console's get stronger. You have an OPTION to upgrade, if you want to.

    2. I do not think these consoles that struggle with 1080p will beat a $400 PC after 2 years.

    3. You can use any controller with your PC easily. Xbox ones are plug and play. You can also just add a Blu-ray drive to your PC if you really need it.

    A PC will be more expensive than a console if you want to get the full experience, a great KB/mouse combo, a full HD monitor and other peripherals, but the cost of the basic hardware is very competitive.

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    Believe it or not, my PC can run some 2013-14 titles on high settings @768p and 40+ fps. (I only play RPG games though) and its under $400 rig.
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    Only what i can say..Im a PC gamer ( Still now) for last 2 decades , but seeing all these (installation problem, 30+ gig size, reduced

    lifetime of GPU) my priority is to buy a ps4 now. Console GFX is decent enough nowadays. Also console community is growing rapidly

    in BD...
    People should stop blaming games for allegedly *copying* each other: "oh this game is Skyrim copy", "this game is WoW knock off", "this game is just another DMC" - enough!

    On this rate every 3rd person action will be God of War, every 3rd p shooter Gears, every 1st will be CoD.. it's ridiculous. They are called genres people! And if you look carefully you'll see allot more than mimicry out there.

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    I bought my PC because I am poor. Well, poorer than my console buying friends, cause I can't imagine paying 3k+ taka everytime I wanna play a new game.

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    The mother of all reasons why PC is better than consoles.
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    ^the 2 guys above this post are pirates... somebody call the navy/coastguard

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    ^the 2 guys above this post are pirates... somebody call the navy/coastguard
    (-_- I don't have any broadband, so I don't count.

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    ^lord gaben is crying for you


    but ya... in pc you can use both original and pirated games, but in console when you mod the device you can not go online ever again.
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    Your price assumption-expectation is completely wrong. No $550 (using your 35% increase) PC can play high-ultra settings @1080p for 3 years. If you factor in the price of a genuine Windows license then things are even worse.

    In BD you are limited by many things. Console games aren't as expensive elsewhere because you can always sell them when you want to and buy second hand too. But with Steam that is not possible. My roommate has played all major titles till July 2014, he spent only $18 to rent the games through Gamefly. That's for 10+ games btw. He doesn't play multiplayer so this works really well for him.

    I don't understand the point of this debate anymore though. It's almost as if people are trying too hard to find excuses for their purchases. Just buy whichever you can manage and enjoy it.
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    ^good point.... correction coming...
    (though i said high to ultra)

    i had to open the thread after the incident in AC unity thread, instead of arguing in a gaming thread i prefer to 'argue' over here.
    and honestly- i just wanted to share (and get) information, because most of the time we people are misinformed by myths.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sammi View Post

    I do not think these consoles that struggle with 1080p will beat a $400 PC after 2 years.



    You can also just add a Blu-ray drive to your PC if you really need it.
    only time can tell, time.




    that_price of blu ray drives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reventon View Post
    Only what i can say..Im a PC gamer ( Still now) for last 2 decades , but seeing all these (installation problem, 30+ gig size, reduced

    lifetime of GPU) my priority is to buy a ps4 now.

    installation problem in original games?? ^_-
    (feeling suspicious)

    the other two reasons are justified though
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    Steam makes it easier to live without piracy...

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    The main problem of pc gaming is that it gets obsolete within 1-1.5 years, for example, gtx 770 was supposed to run all games till 2014 at decent setting on 1080p for at least a year, but now throw away shadow of mordor type games and this gpu will be crying like baby to ease the pain, and as majority of the new pc launch titles are not being optimized, my gtx 770 sli is not giving me enough satisfaction. Also if u were unlucky and took 2gb variants, then u r doomed forced to upgrade. This is the major problem that pc forces u to spend a substantial amount of money every year to keep up pace with launch titles.
    And console games are optimized , so they run a bit better.
    But the main advantage of pc is mod, moding makes a Saturday morning type cartoon a photo realistic one, and vice versa(gedasota mod for final fantasy 13 is a prime example). It adds a shitload of freedom to customize the game to your own sweet taste. Also the freedom of using keyboard and mouse as well as controllers is unique enjoyed only by pc gaming enthusiast.

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    ^story of a pc enthusiast with 770 4gb sli


    but a single 770 (even 2gb) can give 40-50 fps average on 1080p + high textures (not ultra), which is still awesome. and 770 will be good enough for next couple of years...

    but if you are that eager to play everything on ultra like him then you have to spend much money, or wait for the game patches and gpu drivers to come to help you with your sli profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taher furious View Post
    ^good point.... correction coming...
    (though i said high to ultra)
    Your pricing point is also wrong. No good (as in good sellers) games ever go below $10 when it's 1 year old during Steam sales. It's not surprising that most games on sale during those sales are not the best sellers. They still have some good deals often, but not enough to generalize and give such exact price ranges.

    The game return/resale privilege is one that I miss a lot on the PC. Origin has a return period of only 24 hours but that's not enough to learn and truly judge an MP game. I feel like I wasted my money on Titanfall, paid $48 for it with some 20% off coupon. Stopped playing it within 2 months after release, and if I could sell it off, I could've easily got back $30-35 instead of losing $48 completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    Your pricing point is also wrong. No good (as in good sellers) games ever go below $10 when it's 1 year old during Steam sales. It's not surprising that most games on sale during those sales are not the best sellers. They still have some good deals often, but not enough to generalize and give such exact price ranges.
    dude, brace yourself, lord is coming.







    jokes apart-

    i know you will find this very very offensive but do you even buy games on steam, particularly in summer sale????


    splinter cell blacklist (a hit game) (release mid 2013) was 7.5$ for almost whole summer sale... even it was 7.5$ for 1 week in august/september.

    same case goes for arkham origins too (wasnt super duper hit but was not flop either) (release late 2013).


    payday 2 (release mid 2013, blockbuster super duper hit) was 6.5$ (and that was probably not even a flash deal)

    saints row 4 mid 2013, kind of flop, was also under 12$ if i can remember properly.

    tomb raider 2013 was also dirt cheap (of course the issue with tomb raider was different, devs decided to go to sale because of monetary issues)

    far cry 3 (late 2012) was 6$ during summer sale.

    state of decay late 2013,kind of hit was 10$ or less

    chivalry + chivalry dr 2012+ late 2013, hit was also 7.5$ i think
    edit: they were under 10$ combined i think


    if i can remember correctly- company of heroes 2 (release mid 2013) was 10$ for couple of days.


    age of empires/age of mythology remastered (hit, 2013, 2014) were also 5-10$ if i can remember correctly


    i am not even talking about flash deals... which are more fun, 1 to 3 years old games at 1.5$ - 5$ (for 8 hours)


    PS: those who don't know how steam summer sale works... there are two types of deals- daily deals(discount for 48 hours) and flash deals(for 8 hours), also there is 50% discount for every title(except the brand new ones) during the whole summer sale.



    but i admit not all titles get huge cuts, it depends on game publishers too, arma 3 was not below 20 to 30$ in steam during summer sale. but i still believe i can generalize it because nearly all mainstream games in steam follow this pattern of getting sold at under 10$ after getting 6 to 12 months old



    Quote Originally Posted by aayman View Post
    The game return/resale privilege is one that I miss a lot on the PC. Origin has a return period of only 24 hours but that's not enough to learn and truly judge an MP game. I feel like I wasted my money on Titanfall, paid $48 for it with some 20% off coupon. Stopped playing it within 2 months after release, and if I could sell it off, I could've easily got back $30-35 instead of losing $48 completely.
    you got a point, maybe we need laws regarding game returns in every country (like australia did recently)

    but even if i were gaben i probably would not extend the return time for more than 24 hours, 24 hours is enough if you have a fast internet ( 8 mbps)

    but they should implement return feature(for 3 days) when buying early release games like dayz



    off topic- whats the abbr for if i can remember correctly? afaik=as far as i know

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    live EXAMPLE-

    state of decay is 7$ at this moment...
    chivalry complete pack 9$,
    and this is not even a summer sale
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    ^^iirc

    @aayman , there's also steam family share. It got restrictions, but it works. Even before that you could just get your friends account pass and play the games. I played diablo 3 using my friend's blizzard ID.

    And btw I grabbed 3 borderlands 2 gift for 10 dota 2 treasure keys on july 2013 from a trader(keys were 2$ back then).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawon0418 View Post
    there's also steam family share. It got restrictions, but it works. Even before that you could just get your friends account pass and play the games. I played diablo 3 using my friend's blizzard ID.
    .

    how did i forget that

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    steam family sharing doesnt always work with 3rd party drm like uplay or gfwl....

    actually it works for uplay but uplay account has to be the owners, and the owner cant play other uplay games while one of his games is being played by his friend.

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    Steam family sharing is a stupid gimmick... You can't play one of my games while I play another... Not being able to play the same game together by sharing would have been enough. Instead the whole library is blocked off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bousine View Post
    Steam family sharing is a stupid gimmick... You can't play one of my games while I play another... Not being able to play the same game together by sharing would have been enough. Instead the whole library is blocked off.
    You're getting it free ffs, finding a suitable time shouldn't be that difficult.

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