well.... after watch dogs controversy and ac unity 30fps is enough controversy... had to open a pc vs console thread.
To discuss about pros and cons about pc gaming and console gaming.
To help those who are considering to switch from pc gaming to console gaming and vice versa.
This thread is not created to prove gaming in one particular platform is better than the other.
Note: try to use English language because hopefully gamers of all over the world will browse this thread.
Note: Any kind of personal attacks is NOT allowed.
for example- "console gamers are 12 years old sucking lollipops like noobs, we are master race."
"pc gamers are privileged people and making parents bankrupt by buying expensive pcs."
these kinds of personal attacks are not allowed.
feel free to press the 'report' button(bottom left corner of every post) if you see personal attacks/off topics.
All kinds of discussions/corrections/information are more than welcome, as long as you can behave like a man, not a child.
If you want flame wars, go comment under some youtube videos oh my god those comments...
In this thread console means xbox1 or ps4, not wii u or nintendo 3ds (with all due respect to them).
In this thread pc means desktop computer, not gaming laptop.
All information of this thread are dated as mid or late 2014 or early 2015. so don't be crazy if you visit this thread later and see outdated information.
Try not to quote the whole opening post, quote partial post if possible (quoting whole post will make your reply big)
PC graphics are incomparable. 1080p(or 1440p) with 40-60(or more) fps is just amazing. You can even play at 4k high settings if you have the money.
Of course pc can not beat console at 400$ budget at this moment (thread opening time), but if you can increase the budget a little bit it will.
Also there are many graphics mods for pc to improve graphics even more (never say enough -_- ), for example- skyrim, gta4 graphics mod. Skyrim looks amazing and gta 4 pc graphics mods can beat graphics of gta 5 ps3/x360
And also, even if some devs decide to downgrade graphics to make them on par with console, pc gamers often find a way.
For online experience pc is incomparable. pc has a wide variety of online games which wont come for consoles anytime soon (if they ever do).
Games like warcraft/ dota/ lol/ counter strike/garrys mod/ arma/ will probably never come to console (dayz is coming for ps4 , minecraft is coming for xbox1)
In case you don't know- you will not be charged 60$ if you decide to play online multiplayer with a pc.
Now a days lan option is being disabled by devs, but you can still play old pc games in lan parties, and there are even some 'ways' to play newer titles which don't have lan feature out of the box in lan parties (without internet connection).
For consoles you have to split screen, which is no fun, and playing anything other than racing games with split screen is very annoying.
Free to play-
In modern days free to play games make much more profit than paid games. PC has a gigantic list of f2p games like- (here we go again) dota2/lol/warthunder/ team fortress2/path of exile/ dc universe/ etc. etc. etc. etc.
Its amazing, you can enjoy so many free to play games you probably won't need any paid games anymore.
Mods and steam workshop-
Mods were the past, is the present, and will be the future of gaming world. for example- counter strike, team fortress, dota, dayz, insurgency, chivalry, day of defeat all were mods at first, later they became standalone video game. Now they are in the topchart of most played games in the world.
In console, you are paying for what the developers are offering, but in pc, you are paying for the dev's offering+community mods.
Skyrim has nearly 1 million mods, gta 4 and half life 2 each has half a million. Half life 2 mods played important roles in video gaming industry and many of them later became standalone video games- (previously mentioned) insurgency, chivalry, day of defeat.
also there are many mods for games like arma 2/3 , call of duty 4/5, garry's mod etc.
Moreover steam workshops made creating and consuming modding very easy, now a days many games have workshops.
steam workshop made it lot easier for us to create and collect custom maps. company of heroes 2, counter strike go, portal 2, garry's mod, insurgency all have steam workshop to distribute mods/maps easier than ever.
mods- you don't get what developers want you to get, you get even more.
another point- many of the video game developers out now, were modders in the beginning of their carrier, later they started developing video games.
Uber cheap game cd keys-
Needless to say... praise lord gaben, even if there was no steam summer sale or winter sale, steam games would be much cheaper than (first hand) console games, also there are many cd key sites for pc games offering very good deals. And don't forget about bundle stars/humble bundles, pc gamers are overwhelmed by these type of promotions, giveaways and bundles. Both steam and origin often offer some games free, like payday on the house in october or battlefield 3 on the house in june 2014.
Have a look at this- https://teksyndicate.com/gamedeals
Always have a eye on allkeyshop, some popular cd key stores, pcgamer.com and bundles
Steam summer sale= 6 months to 1 year old games(not best seller ones) at 10$ or less, games more than 1 year old- 5-8$, new games at 20-30$. And if you can get flash deals you can get games at 1-4$
Examples- Watch dogs(60$) was released in mid 2014, within 8 months of release it can be bought within 3$.
Witcher 3 wild hunt(60$) was available at 30$ within 1 week of release.
Most of the pc exclusive games are online multiplayers.
Like- warcraft/starcraft/dota2/lol/ garrys mod/ arma/ counter strike/ company of heroes/planetside 2(which is coming to ps4 too)/ path of exile/ chivalry etc.
Even game like crysis warhead is a pc exclusive, crysis (first title of the franchise) did not come for consoles for a long time.
Strategy gamers/rpg/mmorpg gamers have no luck other than playing on pc, period.
If you dont play indie games you are probably missing a lot. PC has a wide variety of indie games, some good examples are- mineraft/ path of exile/space engineers/ unturned/ banished/ blockscape/ robocraft etc. all are made by indie devs.
Of course indie games are for consoles too but pc has a wide variety of indie games which consoles will never have.
Backward compatibility -
You can play 10 to 20 years old titles like age of empires/age of mythology/command and conquer generals/overlord/starcraft1 or prince of persia series with your beastly PC
Consoles have no luck at this, though there is a new game streaming service called 'playstation now' but its expensive and you don't own the games, you will have to subscribe to their service for a limited amount of time. And there will be little to heavy lag depending on where you live.
You can't even play metal gear solid 4 with your new console (without any streaming service).
The decreasing number of console exclusives-
One of the biggest selling point of consoles is exclusive games. Consoles used to have many exclusive games but devs are realizing that pc can not be ignored anymore, and in this generation porting from console to pc is easier than before. So Metal Gear 5 is coming for PC, Titanfall was released for PC and Xbox1, Dead Rising 3 later came for pc, No Man's Sky is coming for PS4 and PC. also, Star Citizen is going to be PC exclusive. So the number of console exclusives is probably decreasing in this gen, comparing to last gen consoles.
Freedom of choice: Mouse-keyboard/gamepad, Tripple monitor, simulation gears
There is no replace for mouse/keyboard in fps games. Although there are some devices for consoles to use mouse/keyboard just like pc.
And if you feel uncomfortable with mouse to play action adventure games like batman arkham... then pc also has the freedom to use a wireless controller.
Also, there is no limit in your playstyle, you can use tripple monitor for playing racing games or adventure games, and you can easily use wheel controllers and lot other simulation stuff.
Price, Longevity and Upgradability-
Device price war is a point where PC loses against console. but the thing is, you can still make a pc at console price range, it may not be as good as consoles but still good enough to make the use of freedom that PC offers. Also, if you can spend 25-35% more money than what a console costs you may probably get a good gaming PC for long term use.
Also, console gamers often argue about the longevity of gaming PCs. but if you can buy a mid range pc (which costs approximately 40-50% more than a console)* you can easily play games with high to ultra graphics (with soothing frame rate experience and full hd resolution) for next 3 years at least. After that, you can still play new titles for couple of years more (without upgrading) but you just have to turn down the graphics to medium-high or medium-low graphics.
Even if you want to play new titles at nearly ultra graphics with your mid range pc after 2 or 3 years you don't need to upgrade the whole system, most of the times you just have to upgrade the graphics card which probably costs only 35% of the whole system. so saying that you must upgrade again and again to play games at ultra is not true at all.
*PC prices based on mid/late 2014, things may and will change in 2015/2016
For some consoles you need to pay approximately 60 additional dollars for extensive period of warranty (probably 3 years). But you can get 3 years(or more) warranty for cpu/motherboard/hard disk drive, two to three years(or more) warranty for graphics card/power supply etc. (without any additional expense other than product price).
Warranty service matters because previous generation of consoles had a bad reputation for longevity. Note that xbox360 had 54% failure rate(2009) (link) and ps4 has 1% failure rate.(mid 2014) (link)
Note: warranty duration depends on brand/region/other stuff. please contact your dealer to know proper information.
This is not a point worth considering if you are not a hardcore gamer, so ignore this.
PC is all for e-sports, Consoles have some games for e-sports too, but comparing to PC e-sports scenario they are next to nothing, yes WCG International Grand Final will not be organized in 2014 but that does't mean e-sports is dead, 10 million dollar worth of Dota 2 tournament was organised as well as quarter million CS GO tournament.
Dota2/cs go/lol/cod/bf/tf2/arma/tekken/street fighters+other fighting games... fifa/racing/sports game + a gigagntic list of pc games for e-sports
Consoles are in e-sports scenario too, Fifa/Racing games/F1/Forza are in e-sports scenario, But again, Comparing to PC E-sports scenario they are nothing.
This is not a point worth considering if you are not youtuber or very social person
xbox one and ps4 can record gameplay videos with their dvr, but they can only do it at 720p and 30fps, xbox1 can do it for 5 minutes and playstation 4 for (nearly) unlimited duration. but their advantage is little to no fps drops. consoles' twitching resolution are also same.
a good gaming pc can record gameplay footage with little to no fps drops too. nvidia shadowplay and amd game dvr deducts only 5 to 10% of pc performance and let you record your gameplay at 1080p 60fps (or even more) for unlimited duration.
we don't know much about VR now (at thread opening time) but high chance VR will be primarily focused for pc because of hardware/software specification.
This is not a major factor because both pc and console have digital audio outputs to connect to home theater or DAC.
But you can use a sound card in pc for better quality audio setup with a budget limitation*. You can't use sound cards in consoles.
Most important thing-
Lastly, the most important thing is- it's a pc... you can do anything, anything you want.
You can use your PC for productivity, you can heavily edit your gameplay videos before uploading it to youtube.
Tired of gaming? you can start modding games or making game trailers (using some in game footage) or making game wallpapers or running game forums, you can do all kinds of stuffs. pc is both for content creation and consumption where console is focused on content consumption only. So buying a pc is not just for entertainment, it's kind of like an investment if you can make the use of it.
Long term purchase-
You dont have to upgrade every 2 or 3 years, buy new console once, for almost 7 years, unless your device gets rrd after couple of years of heavy usage.
you can save bucks by buying a console, and even after 2 years of release of this generation of consoles will probably beat 400$ pc.
this is probably the most important factor for console gamers. most of the pc exclusive games are multiplayer only, but console exclusives are generally both sp and mp. and if you dont play them you are missing out a lot.
example- gow,metal gear,killzone,uncharted, rdr, gears of war,halo,infamous, last of us and many many more.
Better optimization, Console is a priority to AAA devs-
Console is still a priority to many multi platform developers, so you don't have to wait for game patches and graphics card drivers to be released to play the game with satisfying frame rate, it will just run out of the box, it will just run, isn't that what you want? On the other hand, last generation pc did not have many AAA games, there were lot of console exclusive AAA games. And pc has another great problem- poor port quality.
No DRM, no need for high speed internet-
Console disks have no drm so high speed internet is not needed when playing single player games.
Most of the time pc gaming needs high speed internet because you need steam and origin to download game files. Now a days you need some kind of internet connectivity to be a pc gamer otherwise you will face very hard time.
If you use console you can use both internet subscription system(buy/download games online) and no drm disks, but in pc, most of the times you will have to stick with game downloads and high speed internet.
No drm policy really helps to share games with your friends, after you play a single player game you can give it to your friend for free.
PC may have super cheap steam games, but most of the PC games have DRM so if you acknowledge the game sharing culture between friends/community, then console games are much cheaper, if not completely free .
This works in the other way too, pc gamers don't need to bring 10 or 20 disks when traveling to another city, they need to remember their steam login details and to bring a portable hdd (if they don't have high speed internet in the place they have just traveled to)
If you break/lost your disk then... good luck
Console may lose the textures/AA war against pc but it's still good enough, and just like i said console beats pc in graphics at same price range.
And devs are rumored(or confirmed) to be downgrading pc graphics in many new games, so you might be better off with console (it depends how you look onto it).
Console games are used to be expensive comparing to pc games, but now things are changing, thanks to playstation plus and xbox live... or new subscription system like ea access beta. these subscription systems can soon turn the tides of game price war. disadvantages- Consoles have very limited hdd. but you can replace or even add portable hdd.
Playing action adventure games with a wireless controller is much fun, and you have aim assist if you need to play fps, also there are measures to play with mouse keyboard in a console. Wireless controllers can be used in a pc too, but consoles come with them out of the box.
Consoles are smaller/lighter than pc, so it has more portability if you go to friend's house.
On the other hand gaming pcs are usually not micro/mini atx, so they are heavy.
Easy to buy and access-
If you are buying pc within a limited budget, you have to buy different parts and assemble it by yourself or a technician.
If you buy things separately you have to search for information, read reviews, fix your budget etc. Also assembling a pc for the first time is quite a hassle if you don't watch youtube or read guides.
Consoles are like- go to store, pay the money, come home, plug it in and play. simple as that.
when new games come, you don't need to think about requirements etc. it just works. pc is very fragmented, console is not.
Consoles are generally easy to use because you don't need to install the game, games are mostly like plug and play, also there is a upload to youtube button. (edit: there are lot of console games now have to be installed to play as game files getting bigger and bigger)
Power cuts don't happen in developed countries, this point is for developing countries only.
Consoles take 200w to 300w power, much less than a gaming pc. during power cuts you can run a console with a good 600va (500w) ips, where it will be difficult to run a gaming pc with 600va ips.
(Use ups or stabilizer for voltage safety)
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Consoles have many features like blu ray disk support, which can be very beneficial if you are a blue ray disk user. you can add a bluray drive to your pc too but its expensive at this moment.
pc, xbox1, ps4 all have pros and cons, and sometimes they are not comparable. suppose all of your friends bought one particular brand of consoles, then you have to buy that console to play multiplayer with your friends.
and sometimes, it depends on a particular gaming community/culture. suppose you are a battlefield player and you are going to buy next 2/3 titles of battlefield which are coming in 2015 and 2016, so you may have to acknowledge that battlefield 3 had 30 fps in last generation consoles with 24 players maximum in a server.